Friday, July 23, 2010
Politics Angry white men
Posted by Max Brantley on Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:29 AM
They're tired of having higher pay and more managerial jobs. They're tired of black people lording it over them. They're mad as hell. They're not going to take it anymore.
Oh, surprise. They're Republicans. And the political force of the day, this pollster says.
This pollster says, in short, that angry white men are the key to Republican prospects in the fall.
Imagine if they prevail.
It will be junior high all over again. The pig-stupid, racial epithet-spitting, tobacco-chewing civics teacher/assistant football coaches will be your congressmen (or at least telling your congressman what to do). And if you say you don't like it, they'll whip your ass with a big board.
Heaven help us.
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Max,
I've told you a million times not to exaggerate.
ARK. BLOG: You're right Louie. I exaggerate. All of them didn't chew tobacco.
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Max, I think you need to look again. What this poll in fact says, is that a majority of these "angry white men" are not Republicans.
Maxie-
Last time i check you were a white male in a managerial job.
Why dont you take one for the team and let a black lesbian woman be your boss, and you can mop the floors.
Poll says less than half are Republicans.
However after reading this diatribe: "The pig-stupid, racial epithet-spitting, tobacco-chewing civics teacher/assistant football coaches will be your congressmen (or at least telling your congressman what to do). And if you say you don't like it, they'll whip your ass with a big board."
I think the angry white male is liberal and in a managerial position.
Nice note on the assistant football coaches since your boy Halter only trotted out his head coach.
Yes it is a fact that ALL white males that may not necessarily blindly vote straight democrat down the line, no matter what, are in fact all angry, racists, bigot, homophobe, masogynist, wife beating, child beating, dog beating, gun nut toting red necks.
Old angry white guys are the biggest bunch of entitlement whining candy asses around.
Whaaaa we want our country back.
Whaaaa don't take away our tax cut.
Whaaaa you hired a woman instead of me.
Whaaaa my wife won't give me a blow job.
Whaaaa why can't I get frigging sharks with frigging lazer beams on their heads in a moat between the US and Mexico? (that's for you ActMax)
Angry white men, regardless of political party, are poised to vote Republican. This is not news to me. The GOP has always opened its arms and marketed to haters. They're like a supermarket of hate, where no matter what type of hate you prefer, they have it in stock. Blacks, gays, liberals, academics, women, hispanics, treehuggers, you name it, there's a Republican sub-group who hates it.
I've already complained about not being able to get sharks with laser beams on their heads for the moat, but no one wants to increase the budget for that. And BTW when did the price of blow jobs go up?
Spoken like the calm, cool, rational member of the left wing that you are. Remind me who the haters are exactly? Goodness, go have a moment of Zen or something.
Kind of like how there is a sub-group of democrats that hate anyone that disagrees with you?
Max, please look into the Cobel and Pigford settlements (against the USDA for descrimination against Native American and African American farmers, respectively) which the Senate just filibustered. Mark Pryor voted against cloture, while Blanche Lincoln voted for cloture. Granted, these settlements and other good things were tacked onto the war supplemental bill, so I would like to know why Mark Pryor voted against cloture.
http://politic365.com/2010/07/23/the-waiti…
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll…
The GOP has a "57-19 generic lead" with a voting bloc that represents 26% of the country?
Max, this is not the time to be girly-men. This is the time to get out the votes.
Yeah, my tolerance ends at people who are intolerant. I don't apologize for it. If your mission in the world is to hate, then the smaller your impact the better. Evil persists because good people do nothing.
"I've already complained about not being able to get sharks with laser beams on their heads for the moat, but no one wants to increase the budget for that."
Maybe you should try Sea Bass instead.
Did Max kidnap Mr. Bigglesworth? I saw the picture...just asking, what is the ransom amount if I may ask?
jm, I see that whoever paid Brietbart to release his tape and smear Shirley Sharrod got their money's worth.
Those black farmer's will never get paid....
Republic talk radio trash talks good people nonstop, all day long, everyday. Don't get bent out of shape if someone returns the gift every so often.
BTW, did you know that if you are for free trade, then you are a LIBERAL?
Classical liberalism is all about freedom: freedom from monarchy, freedom from aristocracy, freedom from theocracy. In the economic sphere, liberal businessmen wanted the freedom to pursue profit in a competitive market open to all instead of a mercantile system in which the King granted charters (government-guaranteed monopolies) to a few favored individuals.
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Classic conservatism is all about preserving the longstanding order, in which royalty, the aristocracy, and the clergy hold all of the power. In the economic sphere, conservatives have no desire to allow the creation of nouveau riches who would use their newfound wealth to take power away from the bluebloods.
It is fascinating and sad that, for decades, Republicans have been able to turn "liberal" into a dirty word while proposing and enacting the most liberal business policies imaginable: free trade, low taxes on wealth and business, deregulation, etc.
Every time a new millionaire is created, liberals cheer and conservatives cringe.
If you believe in fredom and justice for all, then you are NOT a conservative. If you believe that a person born in poverty should be able to get ahead by getting an education, by being entrepeneurial, or by sheer luck, then you are NOT a conservative.
All of the founding documents of the United States are LIBERAL documents. This is a liberal country. Democrats and Republicans agree on things like NAFTA precisely because of this liberal tradition.
Don't be so kind to the white women, Max. Though there's only 3 or 4 of them in Congress, lots of white women are screaming Obama is a Muslim these days.
The dimmer Americans remind me of my old faithful dog, Mutley. He hated my father and at any kind of upset or loud noise or sign of a fight in this house....Mutley would run bite my father. Even if Dad was in the living room in his recliner and I was slapping my little brother around in the kitchen, Mutley would jump up, track my father down and bite the fire out of him.
This gave my brother and I the biggest thrill, laughs, and sense of justice...because Dad was a bully and though we couldn't make a peep...we could make Mutley do our dirty work for us.
So today the angry masses are biting Obama and the Democrats even though the blame for everything horrible still belongs to Cheney-Bush & the Bushies. If it didn't spell the end of my country, I'd find this funny too.
The election of Obama brought back the sleeping dog of RACISM. It's not the N word screaming-fire hose squirting 1950s brand of racism, modern haters have dressed it up a bit. Arkansas Republicans and Democrats showed their racism is alive and well by voting for old man McCain by 20 points over Obama. Our Governor runs from every chance to meet face to face with Obama because he knows his state's voters very well.
My lifelong friends in Fort Baptist don't even bother to cover their racism very well any more. Tonight I'll hardly be halfway finished with my first beer when one of them will make a race joke or comment or say something racist about Obama and all the rest will laugh and laugh. All with the same self-satisfaction of ActMax and Harvey.
The truth is.......it's still not good to have less than lily white skin in America. I'll wager that none of you know a black person who hasn't been called the N word or mistreated in the last 10 years. I'd like to hear what Tap has to say on this subject. Fox News would have you believe that all bad things wrong with America today are caused by other than white Christians. Our ruin started from the top and is still filtering down.
Another truth is.....you are of low intelligence or emotionally and mentally unstable if you regularly watch Fox News or listen to Rush Limbaugh. You are damaging yourself and ruining our nation. You are unable to ascertain facts on your own. You're too lazy to educate yourself and no doubt have reproduced more of your kind.
You're recreating the misguided masses who followed Hitler in the 1930s & 40s. A better America will not spring from your mind, actions or loins. I am angry at you for believing these charlatans. Use your own brain for once in your life. Be better!
Yes I saw that, but that wasn't Mr. Bigglesworth, but possibly a cousin. We're still checking into it.
DIB, I noticed your druel bucket was full, your handlers should probably change that and your diaper, and they should possibly put you into another padded room, preferably one with a view of a nice stream or lake. That may stem the anger somewhat.
Funny how its usually racists that are calling others racists.
Another liberal concept is freedom of speech, which Harvey and ActMax really love. That makes them LIBERALS. Yes indeed, Harvey and ActMax are Liberal with a capital 'L'
I am liberal on certain issues. Just not in the big government tax and spend take over every aspect of our lives aspect of liberalism.
Yeah ActMax.....prove me right by using a favorite old Fox News tool of calling others exactly what you yourself are. Martin Luther King Jr., was the racist, not the redneck white guy who shot him.
Cheney & Fox obliterated the line between truth and fiction so today nothing means anything. Guess that makes Jesus the true crucify-er not those Romans....or Jews if you believe that greatest Christian of all time, Mel Gibson.
Kudos to jm for pointing out Mark Pryors (and ten other Dem senators) truly awful vote yesterday.
Sound pretty much like an angry racists to me. I never call anyone racists that I don't know, being that I don't know if someone is a racists or not, unless I have proof.
You throwing it around against persons you haven't a clue about, only proves that YOU are the lunatic angry racists.
Sounds like someone's still angry about being left off the JournoList. How the heck are you supposed to come up with intelligent sounding anti conservative diatribes if they won't tell you what the talking points are for the day? Class.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
W.B. Yeats
Not all Civics teachers are pig-stupid, racial epithet-spitting, tobacco-chewing assistant football coaches. Some have degrees in Potical Science and went to school for two extra years to get certified to teach. Way to prove that it's not just the Conservatives who stereotype. ARK BLOG: Since you sound genuinely aggrieved, I'd like to apologize. I was, of course, exaggerating more than a little for effect. It does so happen, however, that they parked some pretty uninspiring teachers in the civics classes of my youth. Still, I probably should have insulted drivers ed instructors. (though there job is scarier.)
DBI - as usual you're delusional. I see you've been studying up on your Saul Alinski play book - make personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with you. Fortunately your ideas are so empty that people see right through you.
Fox News is incredibly fair. You just don't like that they present both sides. Naturally the proportions are 70/30 to balance out the liberal networks that are 5% conservative/95% liberal.
When it comes to matters involving race, I put away my broad brushes a long time ago. Nothing in our country is more complex; few things so emotionally charged.
Several times in my life I've been the only black in a room full of white folks, all of whom I considered friends or friendly acquaintances, when somebody made a reference to "niggers." Dead. Silence. These weren't drunks. It happened twice in the work place.
In one case, the speaker went on to explain, "Not you, Tap; you know the kind I'm talking about."
But the thing is, there is no "not you." We're all a bunch of "yous." The angry white men referenced in the poll are, individually, "yous." They are angry to varying degrees, for varying reasons. I'm sure that I'm a nigger to some of them. I'm sure I'm not to others.
The NAACP and The Tea Party and the unemployed and illegal immigrants are all groups of "yous."
So you can see why I stopped painting with a broad brush. "It's complicated," someone said.
But the topic is interesting; I look forward to reading more from posters later.
Viper--- "Fox News is incredibly fair"
Any person who would say that with a straight face has a handful of poop. Even media mogul Rupert Murdoch the lord & master of faux news admits opinion is biased but of course not the news. However, We all know there is no difference between news & opinion on faux news.
Hack says while firmly believing CNN, NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS are TOTALLY fair and balanced and not slanted to the least towards the left or the democratic party.
I have observed on the news that in the teabagger demonstrations that it is angry white men & angry white women . The women generally the ones screaming the loudest with the most cursing.
Hmm in my high school the Coaches (note the capitalized C) also taught geography and health badly, in addition to civics.
"Fox News is incredibly fair"
I get the incredible part.
Beware the dumber'n dogshit voting bloc.
Act, While I agree that most of the old media is slanted to the left, you have to willfully blind to not see that Fox is slanted fairly hard to the right. I find CNBC also actually very slightly to the right. CNN tries to be more fair these days, but just hasn't managed to pull off the whole balance thing yet. The networks are still pretty much predictably cocktail party-friendly center-left. Then of course, there's MSNBC, a network which thinks that Mao was too moderate.
Your point is taken, though. Many of those on the left who complain wildly about Fox's bias are totally oblivious to the fact that most of the rest of broadcast media is slanted also, only in their direction.
TAP, perhaps if DBI could take your excellent example, he would stop with the broad stereotypes that imbue his sometimes vitriolic tirades.
"nother truth is.....you are of low intelligence or emotionally and mentally unstable if you regularly watch Fox News or listen to Rush Limbaugh. You are damaging yourself and ruining our nation. You are unable to ascertain facts on your own. You're too lazy to educate yourself and no doubt have reproduced more of your kind.
You're recreating the misguided masses who followed Hitler in the 1930s & 40s. A better America will not spring from your mind, actions or loins. I am angry at you for believing these charlatans. Use your own brain for once in your life. Be better!"
This is the stereotypical rants of hate and ignorance from someone who should KNOW better, if they are as kind, helpful and nice as I have been lead to believe. Nobody who ever reads these kind of hysterical hyperbole will ever get any other insight into this mind than it is a closed as the uber-neo cons that they vilify.
As TAP pointed out, it is complicated. I watch Fox, listened to Rush when I could. I also watch MSNBC, just to watch other news and its slant as well as the daily lunatic ravings of Keith Olbermann. There is much to learn from all of them, though I tend to catch more foreign news channels and Link and Current.
Perhaps DBI had issue with those who get ALL of their news from Fox, and that would be as wrong as getting all your news from CNN of HuffPost. Too much of any slant without a balance leaves you ignorant and wanting for a complete knowledge on any given topic.
In my college days when I haunted Pomona college, I knew of many black kids who had never heard such racially charged epithets. Knew many folks by rate of their parents money, were insulated from the real world. Part of what I did was shock them into realizing there was a life out beyond the city limits, beyond San Dimas, and into the not so nice parts of Pasadena and Atwater. Thing is, though, DBI, and I am quite sure you have missed this, is that a lot of the areas that have a certain class and type of folks, irregardless of skin pigment, are just as nasty to their 'fellow' as they are to the 'enemy'. Worse sometimes.
It's sad to find out in Long Beach a young girl was beaten to death by her neighbors because she wasn't behaving 'black' enough. She was an Oreo, worse than being white. Bill Cosby has talked extensively of this, so has Thomas Sowell.
Like TAP, being the little brown guy, I get that room of folks that will suddenly talk of the beaners. Then someone will do the double-take, and say they didn't mean me. I would usually say something like, "Hey, no sweat, I'm not the bean, I'm the whole burrito." I blow it off, most times. I have found that I am not the only struggling misanthrope. What most folks do have is an inherent trust in their fellow man. Race, sex, age is an excuse, a way of lashing out and narrowing down their anger and feebleness. Considering, though, the amount of black/white couples, and the simple fact that they are not stoned and lynched the way they used to be a few decades ago, tells me there has been a vast improvement. When my white step daughter and her black husband can be viewed not as a 'mixed' couple, but as a couple, that tells me we have come a long way.
We still need to go further, though. Those that fancy themselves defenders of egalitarian ideals do no favors when they cry racism because there is a segment of us that do not trust, nor like folks like Obama. I was never one to believe the red herrings about his birth or his religious affiliations. What Obama has demonstrated is his lack of any religion save for politics. That he was an animal of the Chicago Machine told me all I needed to know without knowing his race.
Making this about race is simplistic and wrong, and only feeds into the whole vicious cycle of hate, discontent and ignorance.
Tap has the courage to identify himself as the rare raisin in the great bowl of processed rice pudding that is the ArkTimes blog.
Perhaps, if Tap someday buys me enough scotch (only the first need be expensive), I will tell him the story of how I used my Universal Life Church minister's certificate (which was mainly intended to visit the recently arrested children of black welfare mothers after hours in the Douglas County, KS (Kansas University for white folks), jail, (late 1960's)) to marry my big black buddy JP (NY gang-banger when zip-guns were still the big deal, never knew him by another name) to the two white women who had written their vows.
Somewhere, in the middle of the ceremony, we all became serious. Humans are entitled to define the real deals in their lives.
Sister, by comparison, your legal problems are trivial.
Tap and Steven, excellent posts and thanks for bringing a little perspective and civility into the conversation.
Oh, how Max loves to throw the red meat to the troops. This must have been one that really made him salivate with anticipation! If you merely substituted the word 'white' for 'black' it would generate the same response but from different groups. You see, it is ok to be prejudice as long as you are from the correct group. Political correctness has rendered the white population emasculated when charged with all manner of bigotry regardless of its veracity.
However, a very strange thing is starting to emerge from the cowering, whimpering Caucasians among us. They are starting to catch on to the scam. It has finally dawned upon them that just maybe certain elements of our unprincipled but all too human crowd love to manipulate. They look for the advantages posed by the culture on the 'grievance group du jour' to stick it to the out of favor ones. Unfortunately, the old pendulum starts its proverbial swing over time and the 'stuckees' start to smell a rat. In this case, the 'caucs' have sniffed that odor in the air and smelled a heavy aroma of mendacity. Yea, the dumb whites have finally caught on. Now it looks like they are going to return the favor.
The consequences of the scam and 'gotcha' culture that we now inherit is a perpetual war that wages on within our borders. Eventually the only winner are our enemies who simply play us off against each other. The only big winner in the never ending struggle between blacks and whites and now Hispanics are the Chinese who will eventually pick up the pieces.
All I know is that FOXNews testified under oath in court that they would LIE to tell a story the way they wanted to tell it. Read about it here:
http://www.foxbghsuit.com/
At least the other networks haven't done that. Of course, they are all CORPORATELY owned, so they will leave out things they don't want said that might hurt corporatists. In fact, they are just not heavily slanted to the right like FoxNews is. Maybe because of that they don't tell as many lies, they just leave out crucial information.
The BS about them being "liberal" is just that, BS. If you want to see real liberalism, you have to go to FSTV and LinkTV. Watch Democracy Now! to see liberalism, not the network or regular cable channels.
No, rablib, they are just slanted left, like CNN, MSNBC. They are slanted left to their left wing business interests. You are right that they have a corporate interest, and to think that just Fox may have said they will lie, doesn't mean the other don't engage in severely deceptive practices. They just aren't as Fox about their deception.
I have watched Link, and they are decidedly liberal, though they do go where few reporters fear to tread. I may not like their stance, but I applaud their courage to get muddy and nasty and be without hairstylists and a gang of gofers to get them a fresh latte.
Thing is, if you trust any one new source, your leaving yourself open for ridicule and constant ignorance. You have to hit the net, hit the world news, hit the books and magazines. Make friends in high and low places.
Umm, radlib...that suit was a whistleblower suit against a local station (albeit a Fox affiliate) in Florida. It doesn't have anything with Fox News.
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