New Yorkers have likely never felt hot water come out of their cold taps like we did in 1980. Though I would expect a level of city stink there on the level of summer in New Orleans when it gets really hot.

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A friend of mine from the east recently told me, "I'll stop bitchin about the heat when you stop bitchin about the cold". They laugh at us in the winter.

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Anyone that runs their air conditioner during the summer is a complete Global Warming traitor and hypocrite. If you run your air conditioner, I will never take anything you say about Global Warming seriously again.

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"I will never take anything you say about Global Warming seriously again."

You think we take you seriously? Overestimating yourself somewhat.

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I worked in Ft. Chaffee's Public Affairs office the summer of 1980, and few places north of hell were any hotter than Fort. Smith. Even the Cubans, who were accustomed to tropical climes with no a/c, were complaining.

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I never claim to be 100% right like you big libs do. And expect everyone to bow down to my brilliance. But I take it from your response you run your air conditioner and are therefore a Global Warming traitor.......traitor.

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Damn, Act Max. You can't do any better than that? Think before you type.

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I don't even know what you're talking about. Either you are a global warming alarmist and don't run your air conditioner, or you are a global warming alarmist that does run their air conditioner, and therefore are just a pontificating, hypocritical BSer that thinks everyone else should do their part, but not you. Or you don't worry about what the planet is going to do and live your life how you want. Which is it?

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My boss came down from Minnesota last week. He had the A/C in his rental car set at 66 degrees.

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Kat, I was just thinking the same thing about the water coming out of the cold water tap. Mine seems almost tepid right now.

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Now you kids quit poking ActMax with a stick. It makes him grouchy, positively bearish.
Now settle down, ActMax honey. Some of us just choose different ways to minimize our energy consumption.
Why I'm plannin' to avoid buying packaged presliced apples today. No sense paying somebody to slave over a hot set of blades when I can chomp into that pretty Gala with my own set of pearly whites. Matter of fact, even Gramma can manage that and she doesn't have her own set anymore. She does have a paring knife, though.
Saved any green yet, dear? I did give you a bit of a heads up the other day. And anything you spend at the stores I touted, well, maybe a stock or two might rise, and that's good, isn't it?

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Evidently few people remember those days before we had AC. And yet we survived.

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Money has never been my main focus in life so I rarely come up with money saving ideas. Now and then I back into one while I'm doing something else or because of an accident.

I can tell you of 2 great money saving ideas that fell on me in the last year.

1. We got where we couldn't pay Farmers Insurance 229 dollars per month for liability insurance on our fleet of worn out old cars. And thanks, Hillary, for telling us that lie about how cheap liability insurance would be when everyone in Arkansas had it. You were wrong, hon.

So in a desperate midnight search I sent in our information to Geico and nearly fell over when they told me they'd insure the same old cars for 56 dollars per month! When our policy was in place the price had risen to 67 dollars per month and it has remained there for the last year and for once I'm happy to pay a bill. Actually, that's 67 dollars we have to pay for something like 6 months in order to have liability insurance for a whole years! Yippy!

Who knows what will happen when we have to use our Geico insurance...but we're mighty safe drivers and rarely have an accident, so until then I will be delighted to save all that green money every month.

Number 2. Our new central heat and air system we put in 18 years ago started having troubles a couple of years ago. I had to put a new compressor in the outside unit about 3 years ago and it cost about 1000 bucks to do that. 17 months later, many of those months being winter time, I flipped on the A/C and nothing happened. That was at the beginning of the summer in 2009.

I called the people who installed the new compressor 17 months earlier and they came out and said....sorry...yer compressor is dead....again. It was going to cost 1400 to replace it this time. I guess the Iraq War was cutting the compressor supply line and causing them to cost too much. I told the feller, NO DEAL. And started trying to figure out how not to melt for the summer and not to spend every damn dime we had because winter propane bills are monstrous at the compound.

Wasn't nothing to do but put window air conditioners in the windows of the rooms we actually use. I already had a couple of hand-me-down window units and so I bought a couple of new ones, which are surprisingly so much cheaper than they used to be, and we got through last summer with relatively little pain and strain.

But the unexpected news was that our electric bill was cut in half....more than in half! Instead of paying 400 to 500 per month to be cool, last summer's electric bill never broke the 300 dollar mark. All the people hollered woolly woolly!

Sure, it sucks to walk out of a cool room through a hot hall to get to the next cool room. It's hard to remember to go up and turn on the bedroom A/C a couple of hours before bedtime and window units are louder than central air, but I've always liked that hum anyway. Paying lower bills means I'm saving energy, so that makes me a better American and now I can feel better about myself as I browse the porn sites late at night.

So....if you're ass is up against the wall with car insurance and cooling bills, there are 2 things that absolutely worked for me. Have at it!

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IT is so HOT that...

You can make instant sun tea.

You learn that a seat belt makes a pretty good branding iron.

When the temperature drops below 95, you feel a bit chilly.

You discover that it takes only 2 fingers to drive your car.

The best parking place is determined by shade instead of

distance.

Hot water now comes out of both taps.

You actually burn your hand opening the car door.

You break a sweat the instant you step outside at 7:30 a.m.

Your biggest bicycle wreck fear is, "What if I get knocked

out and end up lying on the pavement and cook to death?"

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The flat earther’s attempts to both deny anthropomorphic climate change & to blame others for it may be symptomatic of an underlying deficiency.


“The only atheism is the denial of truth.” Arthur Lynch

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I guess that's your spin doctor way to say "I"m a big global warmer alarmist and I think coal plants should be shut down, but I'll continue to run my own air conditioner and not contribute to reducing global warming one ioda, that is for the little people to do, I'm above putting my money where my mouth is." Zatharus

Is that what you mean?

Or let me ask another way, is your air conditioner on as you sit typing on your computer?

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For ActMax: From Merriam-Webster on-line:

: hate·ful
Pronunciation: \ˈhāt-fəl\
Function: adjective
Date: 14th century
1 : full of hate : malicious
2 : deserving of or arousing hate

— hate·ful·ly \-fə-lē\ adverb

— hate·ful·ness noun

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Oh God. Summer, 1980.

I was still farming then. We had several hundred acres of soybeans and cotton in east Arkansas. We were just getting started on the rice farming end of things. Most of our ground in those days didn't have wells for watering.

Some of the new ground we'd rented the year before was known by us as "the desert." It was blocked off in a way that made it nearly a 1/2 mile from one end to the other. Chopping beans and cotton was pure hell. The ground wasn't leveled yet and in spite of the drought there were large swamped areas we waded through, mosquitoes, snakes, nats, God it was awful.

Since we didn't have water on the "new farm," one of the only ways to help the withering beans and cotton was to plow them. By stirring up the ground, moisture was released and it helped the plants somewhat. I sat on a cabless tractor (tractor cabs were still rare) 12-13 hours a day in 100+ degree heat for over a month. The heat from the tractor engine blew like a blast furnace--I figure I endured temps of a 120 during those droughty days.

I had to plow at 1 mile an hour or less. The crops were still so small that any more speed and the plows would throw dirt up on the plants and they'd die. Not much wind. Dust would get so thick I'd have to stop and let it drift away so I could see my row...every night I'd dream of plowing and I'd see that damn row marker on my tractor, slowly moving.

For lunch I got vienna sausages, crackers, and a small box of milk. Sometimes a cheese sandwich and a root beer from the Weona Store. Sat on the tractor and ate. Lord it was hot. I do not believe the sun ever went down that summer.

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I have to support ActMax a little. I'm not in favor of shutting them off, though.

I am of the opinion that he makes good sense. If you're truly about global warming, you've got to do something about that air conditioner. Set it on 80 degrees and forget about it. You'll be a damn sight healthier, and you'll be suprised at how much better you handle the heat. In fact it won't feel nearly so hot outside. Further, you'll feel more like getting your fat ass out of the house and doing some exercise. I doubt anyone has ever had stress related illness from 80 degree heat.

I've recently requried a new roomate who insisted we keep the thermostat at 72. We negotiated to 77. It's been the coldest damn summer I've ever had. And I hate going outside. I miss my 80 degree house...

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How does max know whether we are doing our part or not to lessen the problems created by the actions of the world's populations that allows him to throw his monkey s**t around in this forum?

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Because I have checked I can determine to a significant probability that the species Homo sapiens is destroying its habitat. However, since I’m non- terrestrial this does not concern me.


“How would it be if we discovered that aliens only stopped by earth to let their kids take a leak?” Jay Leno

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