Thursday, September 2, 2010

Lottery pressure tactics

Posted by Max Brantley on Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM

The religionist bullies of the Family Council have sent a letter to several retail chains (not including Walmart or Kroger) attempting to warn them off installing lottery vending machines. They proclaim that the "tide is turning" on the lottery and they expect the legislature to outlaw the vending machines in 2011. I'm not so sure.

An overwhelming majority approved the lottery. Its popularity has only grown with the millions passed out for college scholarships. I'm no lottery fan. But forget about half-measures. If the lottery is to continue to produce the return expected, the grim reality is that it has to be marketed to the maximum.

The bullies got 1,200 people who said they oppose lottery machines. Big whoop — 648,122 voted for the lottery.

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Today, Family Council Action Committee President Jerry Cox mailed letters to Arkansas’ Dollar General, Family Dollar, Fred’s Discount, and Walgreens stores. In the letter, he outlined some concerns his group and others have expressed about lottery ticket vending machines.

Cox said, “All we want to do is make sure that store owners get the whole story on these vending machines. The machines are very controversial, and Arkansas’ store owners need to know that.”

Cox went on to say, “Over 1,220 Arkansans sent comments to the Arkansas Lottery Commission saying ‘we don’t want these machines.’ Comments against the machines came from 69 of Arkansas’ 75 counties. That means if you’re a store owner in Arkansas, chances are good that someone in your community doesn’t like the machines.

I firmly believe that some store owners are going to lose customers if these machines pop up in their stores. They are that unpopular.”

Cox said there were reasons to be concerned about the vending machines besides their widespread criticism. “Machines like these will lead to illegal, underage gambling. In other states, it’s not uncommon for people to loiter around lottery machines for extended periods of time, buying lottery ticket after lottery ticket. The Arkansas Lottery Commission evidently expects the same to be true here in Arkansas—otherwise they would not have authorized the ‘continuous play’ feature on these vending machines. If I were a store owner, I wouldn’t want people loitering around a vending machine. I would want them buying merchandise.”

Cox also said store owners need to be aware of the possibility that these machines could be outlawed when the legislature convenes in January. “The tide of public opinion is turning against the Lottery Commission and these machines. I firmly expect legislation to be passed in 2011 that will rein in the Lottery Commission, and I believe banning these machines will be part of that legislation. These machines are already illegal in South Carolina and several other states. If I were in the store owner’s position, I would at least want to wait and see what our legislators do before making a decision. It’s just common sense.”

Cox said in all about 420 letters had been mailed to stores across Arkansas. “We went to Google, and we found every Fred’s, Dollar General, Family Dollar, and Walgreens we could. Most of them should get their letters by Friday or Saturday. My hope is that the letters will help raise awareness about how controversial these vending machines really are.”

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The tide is turning against religionists. If they’re going to subject us to much more of their insanity they’d best get to it, another generation & they may be a historical footnote.


“A myth is a religion in which no one any longer believes.”
James Feibleman

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Posted by on September 2, 2010 at 1:02 PM

I can't believe you didn't post anything on the latest pay brouhaha at the Lottery. How can you get paid over $300,000 and then award yourself 200 extra vacation hours? WTF?

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Posted by arkansastraveler on September 2, 2010 at 1:15 PM

Doubtful Walgreens up here in the North corner is going to avoid vending machines.
They're still determined to get liquor permits about the shouting, raving and protests
of Cox-lunies.

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Posted by eLwood on September 2, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Oops.

>>..determined to get liquor permits about the shouting,< "above the shouting"

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Posted by eLwood on September 2, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Some ole fella by the name of Phillip Moore of Little Rock wrote an LTE to the ArkD-G the other day crowing that his family had “hit the lottery!” Yep, his three grandkids had won $5,000 each, he said. Total of $15,000! AND, he bragged --- the beauty of it is that he and others in his tribe have never bought lotto tickets. And ain’t gonna.

BUT, wrote Grandpa Moore, thanks to us fools who do buy tickets, his college-attending grandkids now have $15,000 to spend on other things. Grandpa was also kind enough to hand out some advice, and then a promise.

The advice: Don’t buy lotto tickets. The promise: If you do, he and his clan will continue to collect their winnings. Some would say Grandpa Moore is a wise old man. Me? I’d call him a freeloader. But, hey, this is America. To each his own!

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Posted by Durango on September 2, 2010 at 1:24 PM

I would think that if we truly raised the educational level of the state, particularly the knowledge of basic statistics, then eventually no one would play the lottery. It takes a lot of people throwing their money away, in spite of not having any reasonable hope of winning, to make that huge scholarship pool. Or look at the opulence of casinos.

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Posted by Perplexed on September 2, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Durango, Grandpa Moore is no freeloader. Show me where it says to be eligible for gambling money scholarships you have to toss money into the state run numbers game- oops, sorry, lottery- :>) There's no such rule. So if you and others want to continue to get something like $62 back in 'prizes' (don't you just love that term?) for every $100 you toss into the numbers game, feel free.

Let's see, if you throw $1,000 into the state run numbers game and get something like $620 back in 'prizes' (would you like a kewpie doll, young fella?), you've lost, um, um- help me with the math here.

P.T. Barnum really was right about there being a sucker born every minute. Not you, of course, since you're getting $2 worth of enjoyment out of every losing $1 ticket you buy. Have a blast!

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Posted by Sound Policy on September 2, 2010 at 4:07 PM

I feel the same way about ATMs in church lobbies.

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Posted by BeeDub on September 2, 2010 at 4:20 PM

And you throw money at a moview theater and get nothing back. Choose what you want for entertainment. Always people wanting to control how others spend their money, especially those at the lower end of the financial ladder. Those at the top call their game of chance "the stock market" or financial contributions to candidates (probably a lot better than 65%) and a lot got back less than 65%. In all games, the only winner is the operator whether it be the dealer, the sales clerk, or the registered represetative.

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Posted by couldn't be better on September 2, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Whats a church but a lottery without a checkbook running on 10% of suckers income.

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Posted by Hackett on September 2, 2010 at 5:01 PM

Merriam Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, Tenth Edition:

free-load-er [n]: to impose upon another’s generosity or hospitality without sharing in the cost or responsibility involved: sponge.

If the dictionary had pics, Grandpa Moore’s would accompany the definition.

Thanks, cbb, for the reminder that we'll always have control freaks among us.

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Posted by Durango on September 2, 2010 at 5:13 PM

Sounds like the Family Clowncil is up to its usual tactics again - trying to intimidate businesses with their concoction of lies.

They are a collective group of narrow minded despicable liars.

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Posted by IrradiatedFuelHandler on September 2, 2010 at 7:38 PM

IRFH. well it not like the good book says anything about bearing false witness.

They seem to that the Family Council is engaged in "situational ethics" which is what they often accuse Liberals of doing.

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Posted by couldn't be better on September 2, 2010 at 8:48 PM

Durango, relax. I play now and then, and I'm not mad at Grandpa for getting some benefit from it. If you don't play, then you certainly have no reason to be mad at Grandpa.

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Posted by Doc on September 2, 2010 at 10:02 PM

Cox said, “All we want to do is make sure that store owners get the whole story on these vending machines. The machines are very controversial, and Arkansas’ store owners need to know that.”

uh, Jerry, if these awful machines are so controversial, shouldn't that mean that Arkansas's store owners need to know that, no matter where they are headquartered? Part of a controversy is that it is not a secret, you know. But do not worry!! We wont tell a single soul. not even the preacher.

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Posted by Tina on September 2, 2010 at 10:28 PM

Thanks, Doc, but I'm not mad at Grandpa. In fact, I'm not mad at anybody. Seldom get pissed about anything, and am a quick healer when I do. I'm a live and let live feller. Always have been. So, I'm happy for Grandpa Moore (even if he is a freeloader) and even happier for his grandyoungins. Hope they make all A's in school, get a $100K a year job fresh outta school, and spend the rest of their lives raht cheer in Arkinsaw.

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Posted by Durango on September 2, 2010 at 10:33 PM

Next move for Dollar General will be to apply for beer & wine permits in their stores across the country. They have 243 here in Arkansas, not sure how many are in wet counties, but this will be bad news for teen employment in the state.

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Posted by MysteryShopper on September 2, 2010 at 10:50 PM

"And you throw money at a movie theater and get nothing back." Posted by cbb

Strange logic. Guess you'd also include going to the Ark. Repertory Theater, Wildwood, concerts, Ark. Symphony, etc., right cbb?

Wonder why so many thousands of folks do all those things and strangely 'think' they did get something back at least of equal value? The difference is we don't have problem movie goers, or problem concert goers, or problem Ark. Rep goers. But we do have problem gamblers and the State of Arkansas (that's us, by the way) is their new gambling pimp. You may like being their gambling pimp, but I don't.

That said, I know 2/3 of the voters said 'yes' to state sponsored gambling, so that's the law. If 2/3 of the voters say yes in some future election to prostitution, that too might be the law. Fortunately, we have a federal constitution that prevents such things as slavery or that too would be the law in Arkinsaw.

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Posted by Sound Policy on September 2, 2010 at 11:13 PM

I don't know, Friend Durango. Grandpa didn't get what the lottery players bought and paid for -- a chance to win, maybe millions. Since they got the benefit of their bargain, I can't say grandpa's a freeloader.

But that's just me. And even though I have nothing ag'in' the lottery -- we may as well have one if all the surrounding states do -- I have never bought a ticket.

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Posted by Tap on September 2, 2010 at 11:19 PM

“But we do have problem gamblers and . . .”

Sound, that reminds me. Have you told your brother-in-law about the lotto’s new anti-gambling addiction program that . . . Oh, forget it. I’ve asked you several times, and you’ve never replied.

Tap, it was Grandpa Moore himself who was bragging about not playing the lotto and getting something for nothing. Like $15,000! See the definition of “freeloader’ above! I think even Grandpa would brag that he’s a freeloader.

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Posted by Durango on September 3, 2010 at 12:56 PM
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