Yep...Garcia and lived ILLEGALLY in the U.S. for 14 years and soon will have dropped 8 kids in the U.S. that have/will have all the same rights as my kids plus some because mine aren't considered minorities...and she's never bothered to apply for U.S. citizenship????? No mention of a husband in the article or if all the kids have the same father or if he/they are illegal also....11.1 million illegals in the U.S. add up what it has cost the U.S. to deliver all the kids of illegals in the U.S. that's a pretty hefty price tag alone...now multiply 11.1 million by just $10 which you have to admit is a "low ball" amount to have possibly received in public aid, whether medical, food or housing....that's a sizable amount for LEGAL U.S. citizens to be footing the bill for!!

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Southernbelle (but sound like anything but!), unless you are 100% American Indian you too are an immigrant or offspring of immigrants. I assume you are ready to go back to your homeland, wherever that is, to save U.S. taxpayers money? Please let us know when you leave so we can confirm your departure.

Yes, there is a difference between European settlers and those immigrants who are now entering the U.S. 'illegally'. Euros murdered their way into the country, Hispanics didn't. I say that as a descendant of Europeans and not Hispanics, but facts are facts.

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Actually, Sound, even the Native Americans are descendants of immigrants. It's just that their ancestors migrated by foot some 12,000 years ago, although the latest archaeological theories on the History Channel put the home of the Clovis point in southwest France and the ancestors arriving by boat.

There is a continuous thread in the right-wing paranoiac cloth: Fear of Brown. They are terrified that, when they are soon the minority, the majority will treat them as poorly as they have treated people of color.

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Silver, I give Chickenopolis about 15 years before gringos are a minority. Messicuns can cut chicken better and faster, build better houses and make better building planks from plastic bottles.

Just last year the streets around our former "downtown" Springdale home were being repaved by none other than Lindsey Construction Company. That's another arm of Lindsey real estate.

ALL OF LINDSEY's Workers on that street repaving crew were messicuns. Only one spoke some broken English. Same for the tree service that subcontracts from local electric company. ALL the Tree Service Workers are Hispanic.

By now they're out-breeding the Holts and Duggars -just not making national TV doing it. Plus, they don't have to sell used cars, they have work skills.

On the long street in a subdivision we moved into houses range from 2000 to 3000 sq ft on double lots. There's 42 homes on the street all of them built in the mid 80s. 3 of the homes are occupied by gringos.

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"dropped 8 kids in the U.S. that have/will have all the same rights as my kids plus some because mine aren't considered minorities..."

Southern Hag, I'm Hispanic and I'd like to know where to cash in on those "plus" rights. Just what are they, anyway? Hey, Estrada, you ever get any extra rights to go with your illegal sounding name? Other than being called a beaner?

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Too many USA'ers are ignorant of our own history. Our European ancestors came here to escape or economically improve. So too the Mexicans and other Latins. What don't you remember of the Ema Lazarus quote on the base of the Statue of Liberty? --'tired, hungry, yearing to be free.'
Or, how about the Chinese who originally were brought here to build our railroads and were massacured in places like Wyoming. You guys seem to want to bring that era back and foist it on everyone who doesn't look like you. You are in a long line in our country's history of no-nothings. You dont' know so you say no. Get out of your narrow minds, read something besides the right wing scare tactics and become a human being again.

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I'm better than you because my great grand daddy came over on a boat before yours did, nana nana na na.

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Every white European in North America is descended from a loser.

If your ancestors could have made a successful living in Europe, they would have stayed home.

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That's not true, they fled Europe because they were sick of dealing with all the B.O. and women refusing to shave.

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Actually, my Great, Great, Great Grandfather came to America as most do,
THE LEGAL WAY....What a concept!

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Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution of the United States --

Section 9. The migration or importation of such persons as any of the states now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each person."
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What do you know? Turns out my great, great, greats were brought here legally, too. That's real important , if law is all that matters.

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Seems like there is something not quite fair with measuring the legality of earlier immigrants against that of immigrants in present day.

It's pretty easy not to break the law when there is no law.

The first limitations on immigration (residency permits for Asians) weren't even established til 1875.

By 1882 there was a Chinese exclusion law. By 1891 there was a Bureau of Immigration.

So those who came before then came legally because there were no laws with which to comply. But does that mean that if today's laws were in place:

* The tens of thousands who fled crop failures in Europe in 1846-47 would have stayed home if they weren't approved for immigration, rather than trying to slip into the U.S. to build new lives? Maybe. But maybe those fleeing the potato famine in Ireland were just lucky there were no immigration laws barring their fresh starts.

* The Germans who came here following a failed revolution in 1848? Are you thinking that if there had been limits on immigration they would have stayed right there in dangerous conditions -- unless they could comply with the law? Maybe. Guess we'll never know.

* The Armenian Christians who fled Muslim massacres in 1894-96 would have waited for immigration approval?

Somehow saying our ancestors came here legally suggests they filled out paperwork, were evaluated, and approved. Unlike those brown skin folks flooding across the border today. And, indeed, some of our ancestors did just that.

But lots of them just came. Because they could. And they were welcomed.

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Source: http://www.ellisislandimmigrants.org/ellis…

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"Not that the facts will get in the way of a good Republican story." Max B

". . . Princeton University demographer Douglas Massey said in 30 years studying Mexican immigration, he's never interviewed a migrant who said they came to the United States just to get citizenship for their children.

'Mexicans do not come to have babies in the United States,' said Massey, who blames the tightening of the border in the 1990s for cutting off normal migration of men who used to come to work for a year or two and then go home. 'They end up having babies in the United States because men can no longer circulate freely back and forth from homes in Mexico to jobs in the United States and husbands and wives quite understandably want to be together.' . . ."

Southern_?, Max nailed your comment before it was posted. You conveniently ignored the two paragraphs quoted in order to further a xenophobic Republican/Reactionary rant. IMO you aren't even close to a Belle . . . Belle Watley showed much more of the qualities associated with that title.

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Thank you, Tap. Excellent post, as always.

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Excellent, Tap

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Some days ActMax is witty and pleasant. Some days AM just comes in straight out of the box venomous and rabid.

Are there multiple people that share that login? Or are there multiple people all sharing the same skull?

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thank you, HHW and uncommonsense, for kind words

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