Tuesday, September 7, 2010

Forrest City jury OKs porn sales

Posted by Max Brantley on Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:43 AM

The Forrest City Times-Herald reports (sub. required) that a jury there Friday night acquitted two men and a corporation of obscenity charges for selling adult videos at the Adult World store at Widener.

The key issue in successful prosecutions is whether material violates community standards. This jury is apparently OK with the content of films sold. Next up: Clarksville.

The prosecution reportedly was pushed by County Judge Gary Hughes, whose presence prompted a request for a mistrial from a defense lawyer who saw Hughes sitting in the jury box while the jury was outside the courtroom deliberating. He reportedly was watching jurors when a door to their room was opened to deliver dinner.

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News Flash for local prosecuters, more important things to prosecute, ala murder, theft, burglary, rape etc. No one is interested in 1880s puritan approach to prosecuting people that have a playboy video. Its 2010, Not 1910 losers. Don't worry about what people watch at home on their DVD player, worry about losers breaking and stealing other peoples property.

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Posted by ActMax on 09/07/2010 at 10:53 AM

This ain't 1910, big boy, and porn is a criminal enterprise worth billions and rapidly gaining mainstream respect. People in porn often aren't in it willingly and many are children posing as adults. There's also the tiny problem of HIV and other nasty diseases. Learn the facts, Jack.

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Posted by billyed on 09/07/2010 at 11:32 AM

Well gee whiz, Billy... we better outlaw chickens too, because there are a lot of illegals in that business who might rather be doing something else (or not) too.

Maybe Craig's List should move their adult listing servers to Forrest City.

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Posted by Eureka Springs on 09/07/2010 at 11:40 AM

Call me dense (I'm dense), but I don't have full cognizance of what that means, eurekee. My chickens are from Texas, and if they aren't legal I don't know what is. They like this business, why right this minute they are taking their noontime siesta (ooops, it sounds like they learned that from our friends south of the border) ... they are taking their noontime nap.

My point was that Act, as usual, is Acting stupid. Porn isn't a playboy video anymore. Porn is a highly profitable business and degrades the participants and those who watch it. (Get the book Getting Off, by Robert Jensen.) It's also a dangerous business on many levels. I'm not a member of the nanny nation, but on some issues you have to draw the line. Drive these people back under the rock they came from.



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Posted by billyed on 09/07/2010 at 12:14 PM

Maybe Doug Smith would say: Drive these people back under the rock whence they came. Not sure. Sounds pompous.

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Posted by billyed on 09/07/2010 at 12:20 PM

We always have the moral police who want to use government to tell the rest of us ADULTS as to what we should read and see.

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.as…

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Posted by Cato on 09/07/2010 at 12:26 PM

Yep, that's adult all right, but maybe adult-ish would be a better term.

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Posted by billyed on 09/07/2010 at 12:35 PM

“Not a member of the nanny nation”
De Nile is a river in Africa.

Porn is a beauty pageant that parents’ send their daughters. Porn is cheerleading. Porn is failure to wear a burqa. Porn is telling women that they’re the gate keeper, if males want sex that’s normal, but not for females. Porn is rating women by their hotness. Porn is using sex to sell soap. Porn is a virgin birth from non-consensual sex with God. Porn is denial of a women’s leadership role in spirituality. War is porn. The Starr report…


“(Kenneth) Star...(has) done what I could not do in a quarter century: make pornography more widely available.” Larry Flint, on the evidence against Pres Bill Clinton

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Posted by Zatharus on 09/07/2010 at 12:40 PM


billyed, it's the same old argument that drug cops drag out. Get the suppliers and the problem will be solved. That's fine but it never works. Heavy demand always produces a supply. I grew up when Mark Twain's "1601" had to be mailed in a plain brown wrapper.

The retailer is providing a public convenience cause anybody and everybody should know that porn is just a kb click away. I would be willing to bet that Clarksville has at least one Hindu motel featuring at least 2 porn channels on TV.

Last time I checked porn is responsible for monetizing the greatest economic boon that's come down the pike in decades. Sex and porn is the largest money maker on the World Wide Web.

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Posted by eLwood on 09/07/2010 at 12:41 PM

Ever see the debate that William F. Buckley lost to Noam Chomsky? (you can see it somewhere out there, just look). Buckley, ever the Patrician with his phony accent and his sharpened pencil at the ready, as if to gouge Chomsky in the eye, ignored what Chomsky said and instead used lowly debate tricks he learned at Yale. Well, I'm not Chomsky and Cato's not Buckley, but Cato is doing the same debate hat trick, trying to take the high constitutional road and leaving me in he den with the nannies while ignoring what I said, that porn is a multi-billion dollar business and anytime there's that much money to be made you're going to have a.) Wall Street sharpies trying to make some money on it; b.) crime figures waiting in the wings; or c.) politicians standing around hoping to get a freebie or a campaign contribution. But I'm being redundant again. They are all the same.

Porn, today, is operated by criminal enterprises. It's dangerous, degrading to everyone, and it harms society. It shouldn't be in the public square.

Where did all these libertarians come from? Didn't we get a law passed about these people?

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Posted by billyed on 09/07/2010 at 1:20 PM

Last I checked porn is legal. So if you have a problem with legal porn, you have a major problem that goes beyond the obvious. We are not talking about child porn. That is illegal and not under consideration.

Yes we are talking about banning playboy vidoes, that is exactly what we're talking about. We are talking about the morality police (YOU) deciding what everyone else should buy or look at or have in their DVD players.

I understand that big libs love the government telling them what they can and cannot do on any and every level, and I realize as a big lib, you are all for more government bureaucracy, more government intervention into our private lives, more government peaking into our bedrooms, or even having cameras in there, telling stores what legal goods they can and cannot sell, telling us what we can have in our DVD players etc., but all I'm saying is GTFO of our lives, 'cause we don't want you or need you. You can go and make your own family miserable by trying to run their lives, but the rest of us don't need you big libs telling everyone else what to do in their own homes. Go suck an egg and shut TFUp.

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Posted by ActMax on 09/07/2010 at 1:51 PM

Act, you are a foolish person.

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Posted by billyed on 09/07/2010 at 1:57 PM

Poor old Fletcher Long doesn’t get it. Never has. Never will.

http://randazza.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/1…

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Posted by Durango on 09/07/2010 at 2:12 PM

And you are a communist.

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Posted by ActMax on 09/07/2010 at 2:49 PM

Billyed I love how you think that terrorists flying planes into World Trade center killing innocent women and children is "understandable" for all the evil the US is responsible for in the world post WWII, but if anyone wants to sell a playboy video and a girl.......OMG!!!....Naked OMG!!! Then they should go to jail. Last I checked we were born naked, we shower naked, if you have a problem with a woman or man's naked body I suggest you take it up with God. Oh wait I forgot, you're an atheist, take it up with whatever was responsible for the big bang.

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Posted by ActMax on 09/07/2010 at 3:05 PM

"Porn, today, is operated by criminal enterprises. It's dangerous, degrading to everyone, and it harms society. It shouldn't be in the public square."
---billyed

Oil, today, is operated and sold by criminal enterprises. It's dangerous, degrading to everyone, and it harms society. It shouldn't be in the public square. So, billyed, when you quit filling her up at your favorite outlet, then I will know you are serious with these parallel remarks.

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Posted by Cato on 09/07/2010 at 3:41 PM

Addendum: This report says 1 @ 4 female college students will be sexually assaulted by the time they graduate. I don't see any reference to porn as being an underlying cause. Can you guess at what door step the blame is laid?

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/nig…

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Posted by Cato on 09/07/2010 at 4:17 PM

What is this crap, and who is Fletcher Long? Rather a Red than a fool. We have created our terrorists. I like, most days, to shower naked. You're half right about the atheist. What does oil have to do with anything? And filling her up? I hope you don't have those videos. Finally, I deny, utter(ly), that I have laid blame.

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Posted by billyed on 09/07/2010 at 4:37 PM

I really need to do a lot more research into all of this. Let me go to the local adult video and porn outlet, stock up on a bunch of stock, examine it for a few months, and I'll get back to you on the research. (Quality research like this takes time......a lot of time.)

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Posted by ActMax on 09/07/2010 at 4:48 PM

Here's something to take your tiny brain, Act, away from all this, and it's about being naked, too, a twofer. Guys like you like to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOVeDwFLd1Q

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Posted by billyed on 09/07/2010 at 4:54 PM

Oh, hell, here's another for all you libertarians out there in radio land. Pot, dark days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbc2NaLuv1A…

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Posted by billyed on 09/07/2010 at 5:11 PM

Once again, Act is the voice of reason (how can one man be so over the map?!?!)

that said, how exactly is it the "big libs" and big gov't cracking down on this? This screams right wingers all day...c'mon Act, you know it is the conservatives who get their feathers in a ruffle over porn...

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Posted by IronyMan on 09/07/2010 at 8:01 PM

Well, if it's the economic powerhouse that is reported, then we should be able to field an industry-financed but publicly governed division of law enforcement to assure that all laws are being complied with and that minors and at-risk individuals are not being exploited. While that will have inherrent flaws, it is better than the alternative. We're creating enough multi-millionaires from Mexican drug lords without providing them another source of revenue by trying to ban porn from adult viewers. Prohibition should be a good example of what happens when you have a product that a large segment of the American public want and view as harmless. The emphasis should be on policing the exploitation of desperate people and establishing enforceable laws protecting the health of 'actors' in these productions. I don't view porn or care to but I don't like censorship in a democracy nor do I see any value in passing laws that create a contraband market in which people of the lowest scrupples will become filthy rich. Tax it, regulate it, police it and make examples of those who violate those areas. That seems the best course to follow, though I confess to knowing very little about the industry itself.

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Posted by oldyellerdog on 09/07/2010 at 8:35 PM

ActMAx, take your time. All you need.

I believe the issue in clarksville is that they will order "special" DVDs, the really good stuff, if you ask. seems that someone said they had a catalog they'd bring out or something in the back -- anyway, something not on permanent public display.

I dont understand how an undercover detective going in there and asking if they will order him a dvd is not considered entrapment, but there is a lot in this old world that I dont understand.

when they put that big ol'sign up in clarksville, a rather prominent citizen handcuffed himself to the sign........not sure what he was hoping to prove but the sign is still there and he done went to the house. most people just dont want their little town to be known as Oh yeah, clarksville, that's the place on the interstate with that great big porn store & sign. I have friends there, and apparently most citizens would prefer to be known for their peaches, not porn.

Otherwise the issue seems to have quieted down. too bad they have a lawsuit to deal with now to stir it all up again.

I can see their point about the tacky sign and all that. But i figure if I dont bother that porn store, it wont bother me. If someone else wants to go there, that wont bother me. I dont, so I wont, but i don't care if you do.

One of my sons went there when it first opened just to see what there was to see, and since he was over 18, I didnt bust any seams. Big deal. I didnt figure it would kill him, anyway. He does seem to be doing fine, years later, but then again i wouldnt want him to be known as that kid who goes to the porn store every day, if he still lived there.

i wouldnt want my sons to hang out with fletcher long, either, even if I knew who he is. neither one sounds like a particularly good idea.

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Posted by Tina on 09/07/2010 at 8:50 PM
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