Blocked "do to objectionable content"? Perhaps Harding should organize some remedial English classes.

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O.o um, if you are gay, why did you go to harding? What a joke. IT IS A PRIVATE, RELIGIOUS SCHOOL. I can't stand xtians, but give me a break. If the school's teachings are counter to your lifestyle, go somewhere else.

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Seriously?
They block websites from college students (adults) that talk about gay isues.
Sheesh.

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Thank goodness many students have smartphones and can access the website from their phone.
I couldn't attend a school that censors my internet access. If I'm old enough to attend college, I'm old enough to decide what websites to visit and which ones to ignore.

Yick, sometimes students do not have a choice in what school they attend. It's possible these students are closeted to their families. In some families, you are only given a choice or two as to what college you will attend. Everyone isn't lucky enough to just attend whatever college they want.

I'm looking forward to this website going live.

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It is live! www.huqueerpress.com! Go check it out, tweet it, facebook it! This is a great thing for this school!

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I have several very adult friends who will admit that going to Harding circa 1970 really screwed up their lives in later years. They didn't enjoy their time there and have very few good things to say about the place.

Today's actions double-dog prove their low opinions of Harding are correct. But what better advertising for future generations to steer clear of the place than Harding's reaction to students discussing gay issues.

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"going to Harding circa 1970 really screwed up their lives in later years"

Just look at what it did to Ken Starr.

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1. These kids are brave. Good for them.
2. This will likely be shut down by the church/school. Kids will be outed, parents notified, suspensions, expulsions, etc..
3. As an atheist, I've also wondered why in the heck would they do this to themselves? Probably because their family is paying for it. It's a big step to walk away from a free education AND your family to go your own way at 19 years old.

Man, I really hope this doesn't end badly.

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LC,

Blow it out your urethra. College is for an education, but its also a place for young men and women to come of age socially and intellectually. Respecting other people's lifestyles does not equate to "fag loving". Its about dignity. Its about equality.

In short, grow the hell up.

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I'd love to read the site, but it is not reader friendly; I'm squinting and getting a headache. I fully support them and their endeavors, just wish I could read the site about their experiences. :(

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In answer to your question, Yick, many Church of Christ parents will not allow their children to go anywhere else. In order to get an education (?), they have to go to Harding.

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Harding, like the rest of the world, will soon discover that people have many ways to access information. Blocking this site will only backfire against the University. It's a shame they find free speech of students worthy of censorship.

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I am delighted to see this. Long over due IMHO.

The Church of Christ and it's control in Searcy is legendary for those who have experienced and/or passed through there. Kind of eerie if you ask me - about like dueling banjos playing at a Chuckie movie if you know what I mean.

In secret though, Harding and the Administration is likely the inspiration for Betty Bowers and the infamous Landover Baptist Church.

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To yick-(verb)-to fire aimlessly in any direction; shooting off at the keyboard
urban dictionary, 2011.

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Good for you, Harding students, I am so proud of what you have done.

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LOVE me some Landover Baptist, Irradiated!

Been a fan since I first discovered it some 12 years ago. The Bible Quizzes are especially informative (since they're direct quotations), educational, and great fuel for Family Time around the table at Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas; cocktail parties when asked, "Where do you go to church?"; blogs, etc.

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I find it very sad that people can't be who they want to be without criticism. However, no one forced them to go to Harding, and people need to be prepared for discrimination no matter if its based on skin color, weight, gender, sexual orientation, whatever. It's the nature of man.

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If I had been born black, I wouldn't attend Klan U, you know?

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@Arkseo parents DO force their kids to go to specific schools and universities. parents can be very controlling. Additionally it's hard for anyone to walk away from an abusive relationship. (Why do so many women stay with abusive husbands and boyfriends?) This is why HeartStrong has existed since 1996. To help GLBT students find their way out of these places and move on to a life lived honestly. http://www.heartstrong.org

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Fine, ArkSeo. People need to "be prepared for discrimination."

Americans DON'T need discrimination established in legal precedents and the Constitution and executed by law enforcement agents trampling on their equal rights.

They DO need legal recourse for such discrimination.

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Perhaps "be prepared to counteract discrimination" might be more appropriate.


“You must pay for conformity. All goes well as long as you run with conformists. But you, who are honest men in other particulars, know that there is alive somewhere a man whose honesty reaches to this point also, that he shall not kneel to false gods, and, on the day when you meet him, you sink into the class of counterfeits.”
Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Amen. I think.

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If you would've been born black, your family wouldn't have encouraged you to attend Klan U either.

LGBTQ people in private institutions is not a major issue at all, but for people who are in that situation it is major.

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Parents can't force an 18 year old to do shit. When you turn 18, you become an adult. If you don't have that figured out by then, then that's your problem. There are student loans, grants, and scholarships available. And if none of that works out for you, remember that higher education is CERTAINLY not a right.

I feel bad for the way this school portrays "Christianity". I highly doubt Jesus would kick anyone out of his school for the things H.U. does. However, it is a private school. If you don't like it, leave it and quit bitching.

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i think that as an institution who stands for what the bible says it is imperative for the university to take a stand against the things God Himself says is wrong. but don't hear me wrong i don't think God sees people who are gay or lesbians any other way except for His children who have been led astray by the father of lies. Same for the people who tell little white lies everyday, or the boy or girl who lusts on occasion, or even the people who have made more life changing mistakes and had sex before marriage and got pregnant. this is not an issue of people's freedom being restricted, it is a matter of people knowing the truth and trying to justify it. people who are not gay do this too, I do this too. it's human nature but it's not God's nature. i stand behind the university in their policy of love. if they did not love their students enough to tell them the truth or try to seek to help the students then i would be greatly concerned.

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In other words, Chelse, if we don't "hear you wrong," gays and lesbians are followers of Satan. Got it.

What "policy of love?" "Tell them the truth," you say? That they're followers of Satan? According to you? According to whom?

One is always struck by those who believe the bible (or koran or torah) is the inerrant Word of God.

"What the bible says it is imperative," you say. Great! Let's go!

Because, if you genuinely believe it, you'd kill disobedient children (Deuteronomy 21:18-21). You'd murder 24,000 people until somebody pleased God by killing the offending mixed marriage couple (Numbers 25:6-9). You'd kill enough people to cover the entire surface of the earth (Jeremiah 25:33)!

And you'd be serving life in prison, or executed.

Of course, you don't believe in stoning children to death because they misbehave. Or any of those other biblical passages and so many more like them.

"You're taking those passages out of context," you and yours claim. Okay. In what context, exactly, ARE those passages "true?"

Like ALL Christians (all religionists) you pick and choose what you like, or what you're told to like, from God's "inerrant" word.

The stuff about gays, for instance.

Honey, you may call yourself whatever you like.

But by definition you're a hypocrite.

Now get out there and start stoning brats!

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People struggling with homosexuality at Harding get better treatment than those struggling with any other sin on campus. They could just be kicked out like those caught having sex or drinking are, but instead the university tries to help them. I completely back Harding in their rules against "homosexuality" and other things. Harding chooses its rules according to how God wants us to live and act. If you do not want to follow the bible then choose a different school. Harding is the best thing that happened to me, and I am so glad to be around loving Christians who want to help you get through your struggles. Also, whether you believe homosexuality is right or wrong in God's eyes.....I definitely don't think Jesus would post a "Harding hate magazine."

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ok now i am not angry i'm not mad at anyone for what they struggle with i am only sad. and if we are going to go on the logic that you want to put on my comment then i am a follower of satan as well.
i sin too.
not the same sin but i do sin. God in His infinite grace sees all sins the same, and i try to too. but as humans we put more emphasis on one sin and not another. homosexuality is one of the things God Himself mentions in 1 Cor 6:9-10, in Gen 1:26-27 it talks about God creating woman to be the companion of man. now i'm not taking the bible out of context. it is speaking about sexual immorality in Corinthians, i mentioned that in my comment earlier. i'm not saying that people who sin are followers of satan i said we believe his lies. there is a difference. if i follow satan then i have given up on trying to do what is right and want nothing to do with God. but to believe his lies is to sin. and everyone EVERYONE including ME does this. again on taking things out of context, i have now used verses from both old and new testaments, you however have only quoted from the old testament and as a follower of Christ i know that once He died and rose again the old law was done away with. i challenge you to find a stoning of a child that was condoned by Christ himself. or any murder for that matter that was encouraged in the new testament of people who were doing their best to serve God.
This is a christian university, whether or not you believe in the one and true living God you have to determine. i am Not condemning people to hell because they struggle with certain things because i know i struggle with certain sins, but God's grace offers forgiveness, that's why He is such a loving God and that's why telling His truth is the universities responsibility.

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First of all, the situation at hand breaks my heart for many reasons. As a Christian and a believer of the Bible, one should take its words to heart. In I Corinthians 6:9-10 it states that "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." As something that is taken directly from the Bible, a Christian university (a private institution, not funded at all by our nation's government) has privilege to set rules and regulations its students must follow. Also, coming to a Christian university and signing a contract saying you will follow the said rules, is saying you will follow them and if not then the administration has the right to ask one to leave. It is a known fact that Harding does kick students out for many offenses such as practicing sexual activity out of wedlock, drinking, stealing, doing drugs. Harding does not kick out those who have homosexual tendencies or even claim to be gay unless there is action taken based on those tendencies. So in the big picture they are not being dismissed from the institution for being homosexual, but for committing sexual practices that are not condoned by God or the university.
Now, to move on to the discrimination issue. I'm fully aware that some students are forced by their parents to attend Harding. This is an issue that I am totally against. I feel as a young adult, you should be able to choose where you obtain a higher education, but at the same time, Harding isn't forcing you to attend school there. The parents are. Harding does not force anyone to attend the institution. If you don't like the rules and regulations that Harding has as a Christian school and DO have the choice of what school to attend, why come? Why spend four or five years of your life completely disagreeing with something yet not removing yourself from the situation. For example, let's use something broad. Let's pretend that there are two universities. One was for students who are democrats, and the other was for students who are republicans. If I claim to be a democrat, I would most certainly not go to the school for republicans and be upset the entire time that the democrats don't accept me, because of course they're not going to accept me. We have completely different views. I'm not saying that there aren't hateful things that go on in the world to people who have views, that even some look at as sinful, because there most certainly are things that go on that are hateful, and it is NOT ok. However; I do not know of any hateful actions that Harding has taken on those who claim to be homosexual. If there is something that is hateful, then I believe it needs to be called out because as a Christian institution hatefulness should never be an option. But i feel that coming to a school where you in turn you are saying if i do this this or this, i will be dismissed, that is your choice.
In this issue I'm not trying to point at homosexuality as a greater wrong. I feel like a wrong is a wrong, and there are many wrongs that students get dismissed for at Harding University. People throughout the world have different views on religion, politics, etc., and that will never change, and through this post I am not trying to take a stab at anyones beliefs, but simply try to make a point that Harding does stand for certain things, and if you're for those things then that is your business, but if you're not then why not just find something or somewhere else that is a representation of what you believe? Harding is for people who believe a certain thing, and so are other schools that represent things like race, special needs, or simply state schools ( just a few for example).

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Bull$hit.

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Oh boy, the concern trolls for HardingU were out in force late last night...Still, I'm going to chime in here this morning.

HU may not be as radical as Bob Jones, but they are quite conservative and do wield influence and power in and around Searcy. Although there are students that attend HU out of their free will, many are compelled to by parents and or pressure by their local CoC. Many prospective HU are under 18 at the time they initially apply.

When HU is censoring a website to its on-campus network just minutes after launch, it speaks volumes about its fear of truth.

Many students whom are questioning their GLBTQ status often attend such socially/religiously conservative schools such as HU (John Brown, etc) because its an effort to cure/purge/cleanse/save them from such desires: much the same way as "getting married" to a opposite sex partner; joining the military to make them straight/a "real man"; or going into a macho job to beard their own gender identity for someone that is trans.

I myself spent several years in Landmark Missionary Baptist churches partly to hide from my own issues. I also grew up in a small rural community in a high school not much different in many ways than Midland. What I read last night from the current and former HU students sounded much like my own experience coming to terms with my own issues. In a way, they are coming to terms with their own GLBTQ issues soon enough to avoid divorce, ugly custody fights with ex-spouses, and wasting 20+ years in denial.

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The way that we had the Old Testament quoted last night, I guess I hadn't recognized that Harding was a Jewish University. I thought they were limited to the east coast.

They must be Jewish as they spend a lot of time selecting the 6 or so laws from the 613 in Leviticus while ignoring those they don't like. They "forget" that the New Testament talks about a New Covenant that replaced (like puts aside) the Old Covenant from Leviticus and the rest of the Old Testament. I still haven't found where Jesus said anything against anyone EXCEPT those who don't love their neighbors or love their God.

I went to LRU and our Chemistry group went to an ACS evening meeting at Harding and someone dropped a "churchkey" that made an obvious sound as it tumbled down the stairs in the auditorium. The place became as quiet as a church as everyone looked to see who had offended their sanctum. We also noted that the swings around the campus had spotlights on them from the front and the back. Don't know whether that is still true as my only other time on campus was to attend a high school football game in the 1990's and I wasn't on campus that long.

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Harding Alum, 1984; Pastor since graduating; Conservative evangelical who believes homosexual behavior is, indeed, a sin. Nevertheless, I am glad and encouraged by the web site - read all of it. "Thank you" to the students who put it together. I respect you and would not seek to argue with you. I am glad for your willingness to expose the brittle, sectarian, intellectually incestuous culture of Harding. More than anything else, as an academic institution, Harding is a religious front for the promotion of, the exaltation of, the baptizing of ... power and greed. This zine only demonstrates the hollowness of Harding. Thank you.

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Here is what's "bullshit."

The anti-gay biblical references that Christians cite for condemning homosexuality (murder of gays, though sanctioned in the bible, would land them in prison) is found in Leviticus -- the Old Testament, which the above posters claim is irrelevant. Picking and choosing, again. Denying they're doing that, again.

Whether you believe in Jesus or not, as far as I'm aware he said nothing about homosexuality. Nothing.

As Dawkins says, and I'll say it again, "Faith is an evil precisely because it requires no justification and brooks no discussion."

Here is how we're all born into this amazingly diverse world of limitless possibilities for love and joy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe…

Some of the above posters are what happens to that baby after being taught fear ("Shut down that site!") ignorance and hate for fellow human beings (see David Koon's article on McCance) based on secondhand recitations from closed minds and shrunken hearts claiming to "speak for God" with dead certainty (operative word? Dead) -- turning the Creator, instead, into a petty, spiteful two-bit hypocrite.

Nobody's born that way: they have to be taught.

I'll take the incomparable, magnificent contributions of gays throughout human history in every field of endeavor over anything those posters have or ever will have to offer humanity, thank you.

Bless their hearts.

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Harding -- look real hard and you can see my flip off!

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When univerities receive government funding of any kind be it scholarships or from tax deductible charities they lose the right to discriminate period.

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Chelse, do they not teach punctuation and capitalization skills where you go or went to school?

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If the Bible was to be taken literally, women wouldn't be teachers and we shouldn't eat shellfish and pork.

I don't think anyone has the authority to pick and choose which verses we're supposed to follow and the context in which we are to follow them. Each person has to make that decision with their God and not force anyone to adhere to their standards.

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Rickysrant, sure they are adults but not everyone wants to acquire a bunch of debt just to attend the school of their choice.
Also they may risk ostracism if they decided to go their own way. Some people are not strong enough to handle such ostracism from their family at such a young age.

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Reading the zine, "the state of the gay" was great. I'm so very thankful they did this. I could have added in my own article, though I don't go to Harding. I grew up CoC though, and know exactly what it's like. It's hard to be in a world, when you didn't choose your sexual orientation...and because you Love God so much, you're almost willing to CHOOSE the harder life by going against the wave or by hiding. It's really scary to think that the people who love and respect you, and your faith, would judge and push you away if they really knew. ---So thank you for writing this & thank you for shaking things up. Other christians should just pray that God open their hearts to Truth....and then see what happens.

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It's a Christian school. Everyone knows what they are agreeing to when they arrive. There's a policy and it’s made clear to all at the very beginning of each semester. Being queer won't get you kicked out, but acting on your desires could. Same as with the straight students. As a private school, this is really between the students and the school, no one else has any say in their policies. You liberals enjoy screaming that you have been done wrong, but when a Christian exercises his or her right to believe and follow the New Testament you guys lose your mind! Back off and respect the fact that we don't agree with you. We do it for you all the time. You don’t get to dictate our beliefs and we don’t dictate yours.

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As a private university, Harding can block whatever content they wish on their campus. Period.

For instance, MySpace was blocked on campus during my time there, as was Facebook for a while.

Students are given a handbook and they must sign that they understand and acknowledge the content in the handbook. If you do not like the rules, do not go to Harding.

Has going to HU "screwed up" my life. No. A university does not have the ability to do that. I make my own decisions, as I did when I was a student. I spent plenty of time in the Deans off for being a bit too "outspoken" on certain issues. Thats fine. I knew when I make the decision to attend Harding that certain behavior would not be tolerated. I toed the line a great deal, and still managed to graduate.

I made the best of my time at Harding and had great opportunities while I was there.

Moral of the story: If you do not agree with what Harding stands for, and feel you cannot meet their requirements-- Go to U of A. Still a great school, and you can do and say what you wish.

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I really like the website/zine.
I'm an atheist but I'm all for efforts to try to open the minds of intolerant religious bigots.

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This is why I left the church of christ... All my life spent judging others and making life difficult for people whowho were different from me... Their views on musical instruments...their view of baptism.. to any coc persons who read this and are gay, "it gets better"... Theres nothing wrong with you... For these students, real colleges that love learning and logic dont censor information and dont hurt their own memembers... Life gets so much better the further you get from searcy and from closed minded people

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When i address this issue i am talking to people who do claim christianity. if you don't claim christianity then there is no part for you in my posts, only because i know not everyone thinks the way i do. but Harding is a christian university. therefore they have to keep christian ethics in mind. so the university takes a stand where God takes His stand. we are not bigots and we don't condemn people to hell. we strive to teach what is true in the light of love.
When I address this issue I am talking to people who do claim Christianity. If you don't claim Christianity then there is no part for you in my posts, only because I know not everyone thinks the way I do. But Harding is a Christian university. Therefore they have to keep Christian ethics in mind. So the university takes a stand where God takes His stand. We are not bigots and we don't condemn people to hell. We strive to teach what is true in the light of love.
For example, my parents loved me therefore they told me no when I did something that was wrong because they loved me not because they hate me. If they didn't discipline me as a child I would have grown up to be a brat. I’m thankful to them for telling me no. It’s the same with God, He tells us no too. He tells us no on many things like greed, pride, and lust, ECT. Also I agree with the post that is talking about us carrying out our beliefs. If a private university is founded on the basis of the bible then they must stay within the guidelines of the bible. I can't go to a Muslim university and expect that my religion would be accepted there, because they have their own beliefs too. I know some people have no choice but Harding is not aiming to target or discriminate, they only try to practice what they preach. This university is not perfect and it never will be. But, we do serve a perfect and loving God. That is the hope that I live by. Christians do not want strife between people we only want for the evil in the world to go away. I know I won't change people's minds by posting anything. I don't try to, I only want to defend the God I love and His word. As much as many of you are standing for what you believe in I'm standing for what I know is right. I stand as a Christian who tries to follow God's law and His Son Jesus.

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@ Norma - if you'll post your address I will send you a Bible. Or, use Bible Gateway. It has free access to all scripture in many different versions. The scriptures about homosexuality are in the new testament. 1 Corinthains 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:10 are two verses from the new testament that specifically mention homosexuality.

Why do those of you who feel that homosexuality is not a sin have the right to have that belief - but those of us that belief it is sin do not have the right to our belief? We are intolerant - and yet you are intolerant of us as well.

I applaud Harding for stating what it believes as truth, and sticking to those beliefs.

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I visited Harding in the early ’60s just to take a look. I had recently survived a couple years at one of the even more radically repressive colleges of the Church of Christ. I was not out with anyone, not even myself. But it’s crystal clear now that getting involved with the Church of Christ was one of the most damaging things that ever happened to me — and that adversely affected most of my life thereafter in one way or another.

These kids may be stuck there for the time being. But they don’t have to hand over their individuality and ability to reason to the bigots who control their college lives. Those that are intellectually challenging the draconian, so-called biblical teachings are taking possibly the first and most important step toward their own eventual freedom.

But to finally see through all the mind-numbing smoke religious propagandists use to keep us divided from ourselves, one another, and to maintain their own ill-gotten authority and profits, that same scrutiny must be applied to everything these heroic kids think they know about the “holy” writings, as well as all the rest of the deluge the culture at large throws at us about the way we should see ourselves, others, history, politics, and nearly everything around us.

So HU Queer Press kids, keep doing what you’re doing, but the sooner you can finally rid your own minds of every vestige of these bigots’ way of thinking, the better chance you have of actually eventually seeing through not only their brainwashing, but that of the culture at large — and believe me, it’s an extremely thick blanket of delusion.

It’s either the blue pill or the red pill — and the stakes are enormous — but I assure you, the only hell you’ll ever encounter is the one that exists in this real world, not the one they throw at you constantly to keep you in a state of fearful submission.

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But what about the time a few years ago when the CofC/Harding "Mafia" basically ran the chain bookstore "Book A Million" out of Searcy. BAM's sin: they had a tiny "Gay/Lesbian" section.

For the poster that wanted us progressives and supporters of the HUQ website, to back off: STFU.

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The problem with this whole situation is the way it has been presented. First, Harding is a Christian school. One of the things you have to learn when you become an adult is to adapt to the situations you are in. Whether you choose to attend the school or not is immaterial at this point. The fact is that the authors of this zine are/were students at Harding, and as such they need to recognize that there are better ways to make their point. In the case of a conservative school such as Harding, a non-inflammatory approach would have been more circumspect. Blatantly flaunting violations of stated rules and then distibuting material that is known to be offensive to many on campus without their consent (ie delivering a copy of the zine to dorm rooms while the occupants were out) not only casts the authors in a negative light, it's plain rude.

I believe that in light of this and by the rules laid out in the student handbook, Harding was well within its rights to block the site. In addition, Harding pays for the internet connection and works hard to keep it running. What may and may not be accessed through school resources is entirely at the school's disgression. What was done here was an intentional attempt to hurt not only those who love this university, but also its reputation. I say shame on you for being so vindictive and immature as to take such a low approach.

Harding University is a school that does its best to follow the Truth it finds in the Bible. In addition to this, it is a school that cares very much about its students, regardless of belief and lifestyle, if only those students are willing to be open to their options. Does Harding stand by its beliefs? Yes, it does, and for that, I believe it is to be commended. There are many students on campus today who thrive in the Christian environment. For the most part, I would say that the student body is willing to listen to different viewpoints, as long as they are not offensively thrust in its face. You will always find the hurtful and the ignorant on both extremes of an issue, but you shouldn't let them define the image of a given institution.

I pray that this situation find a peaceful resolution, that God use it to His glory, and that those on both sides of this issue try to see with open eyes and open minds.

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