Saturday, December 10, 2011

De Queen roiled by column on football fans

Posted by Max Brantley on Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:06 AM

FLASH POINT: Column riled De Queen.
  • FLASH POINT: Column riled De Queen.
Mix high school football, the rise in people of Latino heritage in Arkansas and a newspaper column and what have you got?

In Nashville and De Queen, you have a boiling hot controversy. And the columnist has bought radio time to apologize for comments he made about De Queen football fans. KSLA in Texarkana reports.

Nashville News Publisher Mike Graves (yes, that Mike Graves) wrote after the De Queen-Nashville game:

I was really embarrassed for the decent citizens of De Queen, especially when the prayer and our national anthem were ignored by the thugs in the crowd who kept their caps on.

We heard someone say they played the wrong national anthem and might should have prayed in their 'new language.' How sad.

But when we give the illegal so much, how do we expect them to have any respect or regard for America?

Readers, partiicularly people of Latino heritage, took the comments as racist. Nashville Mayor Billy Jones joined the criticism of comments that he said reflected poorly on his city. Note the headline on the column in question in photo.

Graves didn't talk to KSLA, but he did buy radio ads to apologize. The ads said, in part:

I'd like to express my sincere regret for offending the citizens of De Queen, Arkansas and anyone who took personal offense to the poorly worded article.

As has become customary, a Facebook page has popped up with the object of ripping Graves and his newspaper.

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He especially offended De Queens trannie population with his confused gender headline.

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Posted by bugeyedlittlefreak on 12/10/2011 at 7:52 AM

My old buddy and college roommate Mikey Bob seems to have stepped in it.

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Posted by scrapper72 on 12/10/2011 at 8:49 AM

Prayer at a high school football game?

"The court ruled 6-3 in a Texas case that public schools cannot allow student-led prayer before high school football games, a decision that reinforces the wall between church and state erected by the First Amendment."

http://articles.cnn.com/2000-06-19/justice…

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Posted by Arkie on 12/10/2011 at 9:29 AM

"might should have prayed in their 'new language.' "

"Might should have prayed" in dumb-assperanto?

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Posted by Doc on 12/10/2011 at 10:18 AM

Arkie, you do know that people don't have to pray if they don't want to. And, if they don't mind being called, "thugs," for declining.

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Posted by Doc on 12/10/2011 at 10:23 AM

I don't know about anyone else here, but I am tired of people speaking their minds, then apologizing for it. The apology means nothing. Stick to your guns. If you say what you believe, then stick to it. This is America. So what if people are offended?


I'm more offended by these apologies that always come out than anything else. I don't think what the man said is worthy of all this hoopla. That is a problem in today's society with the Internet and such. Things get blown out of proportion in a hurry, and then the TV news has to get ahold of it and try to stir up the pot.

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Posted by jtsims on 12/10/2011 at 11:47 AM

Ain't youth sports great!

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Posted by Goof on 12/10/2011 at 11:47 AM

Arkie, you beat me to it. An upright citizen wanting to uphold constitutional rulings could make a new headline in Sevier County. What say thee,Louie, about all of this?

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Posted by Cato on 12/10/2011 at 12:39 PM

Why no link to the actual editorial?

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Posted by Perplexed on 12/10/2011 at 12:41 PM

I was in a regional meeting held in DeQueen Thursday and some very upset people informed me of the Nashville article. They were livid to say the least. Such should help to keep the Scrapper-Leopard rivalry intense.

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Posted by Cato on 12/10/2011 at 12:45 PM

Perplexed, try this:

http://www.readoz.com/widget/linkus.gsp?cu…

The story is on page 6 or 7, and the most that I could see clearly was the first word, "Y'all".

Damn, I thought the Log Cabin Democrat was a POS!

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Posted by Doc on 12/10/2011 at 1:06 PM

I will never forget being at the Fiesta in San Antonio and hearing the loud cheers by Americans as a Mexican high school band marched by the Alamo. It was a true celebration of diversity and a common heritage. We can let our differences divide us or make us stronger.

If people don't take their hats off for a prayer, why exactly does government care?

If people don't take their hats off for the national anthem, are we less free? Is the government going to start requiring a proper dress code whenever the flag is present?

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Posted by ChildeRolandReturneth on 12/10/2011 at 1:10 PM

Finally, at least someone can stir up enough breeze down there to sell some papers.

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Posted by eLwood on 12/10/2011 at 2:08 PM

Use to think we should help by speaking Spanish. Mine is adequate. Now I think if someone lives in Amerika, they should speak English. I am a tutor; if you want to speak the local speech, I will help you..... As far as high school football, I give not one rat's hindquarters.

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Posted by Atlas999 on 12/10/2011 at 4:04 PM

Thanks, Doc. I couldn't read it, either. What a waste of pixels....

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Posted by Perplexed on 12/10/2011 at 4:15 PM

Now some folks will be upset with his apology. They would have embraced him as their heroic voice -- telling it like it is.
They share same feelings he expressed, whether, they be right or wrong.

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Posted by Bobby L. on 12/10/2011 at 4:29 PM

Wow! Just visited the FB page. Some of these people who worry about Spanish (or Mexican as may of them might say) becoming the dominant language, should work on becoming proficient in English. They are prime examples of why Arkansas is seen as the land of morons.

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Posted by Doc on 12/10/2011 at 4:44 PM

I think Graves is a distant relative of mag's, not that that matters at this point. Since I've driven thru DeQueen dozens of times since mag and I got married in 1982, we've watched the population change to much darker skin tones. And I admit it was alarming for me when Fort Baptist started being flooded by Hispanic workers, 15 or so years ago.

The only Mexicans I knew was Pepino on the Real McCoys and José Jiménez on the Danny Thomas Show, but they were TV Mexicans and to top it off, Bill Dana (still gettin it at 86) is actually of Hungarian-Jewish descent. So I forgive myself for being a little worried when my entire neighborhood turned brown. Fine neighbors they are too. I got over it.

My point is that DeQueen and Fort Baptist would never have had an influx of Mexican immigrants if not for our many local chicken plants. I have seen with my own eyes and have been told, though I haven't tried to prove it, that some of these chicken plant owners sent old Greyhound buses to our southern border to haul back anyone willing to stand in blood all day and cut up chicken for low wages. One such bus used to drop off Mexican men in the alley behind the DBI compound.

An even bigger point is that our new Mexican neighbors in FS & DeQueen are here because they'll work like dogs, accept low wages and mistreatment because they came here to WORK. And judging from the new little houses and churches going up in both cities, their WORK is paying off for them.

I don't know why someone needs to bash working men & women regardless of their color or country of origin? Life is too short for such concerns and please let me see a show of hands of those on this blog who want a low wage chicken chopping job or wants to quit their job and become a roofer or tend the yards of the very rich or be locked inside a Wal-Mart to clean all night. Hands please! I don't see any hands! Where are the hands?

What we're witnessing is the age old story of immigration in America. Since the end of slavery, one ethnic group after another has landed on our shores to do our shit work no matter how little it pays or how much abuse comes with the job. First the Irish, then the Chinese, then the Japanese, Italians, Filipinos, Vietnamese on up to the Hispanic people we now see all around us. This is the immigrants story in the USA and a decade from now they'll be another ethnic group that comes along to take over the jobs Mexicans are doing now, but will grow out of by then. It's the way the game is played.

And while you may not like having Mexican neighbors, the rich folks who hire them, love it! Ask Mitt Romney.....ask Boss Womack who, when he was mayor of Rogers liked to see Mexicans employed in shit jobs, he just wanted them out of town before the sun went down. Kind of a reverse cockroach world view and now he represents us in Congress.....lucky us!

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Posted by DeathbyInches on 12/10/2011 at 4:51 PM

Is Mike Graves related to Louie?

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Posted by Sistertoldja on 12/10/2011 at 5:28 PM

Echoing what DBI says about Hispanics, the man I hired to do the landscaping after remodeling our southern California house didn't speak a word of English when he came here from Mexico. He told me he learned English from his customers. He started out with a mower, an edger, some hand tools and an old pick-up, He went door to door building his route. I think he got amnesty in '86 under Reagan's deal. Today he owns his own landscaping business in addition to the maintenance business and has a lot of land leased in the power transmission line right-of-way in Gardena for his wholesale/retail nursery business. He lives in Palos Verdes in a house worth a couple of million and his kids have all gone to college. The last time I talked to him 5 1/2 years ago he hadn't taken a day off in 3 years (I'm talking 7 days a week), and that was to go back to Mexico when his mother was ill. I don't know how many people he has working for him, but I think it is in the range of 20 or so. He loves the USA, and he loves Mexico, too. It is possible to hold two countries in your heart.

I also have a young friend who worked part time in one of my offices doing insurance claims. He was in college full time. He didn't speak a word of English until he started kindergarten, even though he was born here. Now he is fluent in both and it is a tremendous asset in business and has opened doors in the business world for him. His mother still doesn't speak English, but she has managed to raise 7 hardworking, good citizens anyway.

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Posted by the outlier on 12/10/2011 at 5:39 PM

The "thugs in the crowd" without "any respect or regard for America" were the columnist and "the someone" he alleged heard.

In our great country, there are winners and there are losers. IMO, the columnist is the latter.

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Posted by dottholliday on 12/10/2011 at 6:20 PM

I went to Fort Baptist Northside in the early 90's with the sons and daughters of Vietnamese and Laotian refugees. Their parents, most of which spoke no English, took whatever jobs they could find, from furniture factory jobs down to the chicken plants. A few families started restaurants or Asian food markets. The high school age kids worked too so the family could make ends meet. Sound familiar?

Today, many of those students are now doctors, lawyers, pharmacists, teachers, etc., and their children speak little to no Vietnamese. Twenty years from now, I see no reason we won't see the process repeat itself with the Mexican and Salvadoran immigrants, just as it has many times before, including my wife's family who came to Subiaco, Arkansas from Germany 100 years ago.

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Posted by FSMXNA on 12/10/2011 at 7:16 PM

Felez Navidad to all. I have Hispanic neighbors on both sides, and they are good folks, hard-working, love their kids and are respectful of their neighbors. It is too bad that nativist, know-nothing politicians have seized on this issue as a way to feed prejudices and get elected.

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Posted by plainjim on 12/10/2011 at 7:58 PM

Incidentally, Mike Graves was the newspaperman who called Mark Martin out a few months ago. Got to give him credit for that.

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Posted by plainjim on 12/10/2011 at 8:01 PM

Sister: Louie and Mike Graves are brothers. Probably about 15 years separating them.

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Posted by scrapper72 on 12/10/2011 at 9:56 PM

DeQueen joins Fort Smith and Jonesboro on my hellhole list. How did I forget DeQueen?

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Posted by mr. green on 12/10/2011 at 9:59 PM

On top of everything else, his Spanish sucks too. It should have been either "La DeQueena" or "El DeQueeno".

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Posted by Reaper on 12/10/2011 at 10:04 PM

These thuggy players should be told that the USA was the nation that freed their ancestors. They should be told that they are in the best nation ever, and if they dont like it, get their asses out ! They continue to show disrespect to this nation, even though they probably get some government check ! The home team should have the right to stop the game and tell them to get their crap together or go home !!! Stop "dissin" the country BRO !!!

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Posted by November on 12/10/2011 at 10:33 PM

Oh me.....November, you represent everything that's wrong with America today. I think you see everyone that isn't you as someone who is possibly getting a government check.

Here's where you tell them to take a bath and get a job. And what about all the ancestors this nation killed in order to steal their land and shoot buffalo for sport? Bullshit on your constant US vs THEM way of thinking. I bet you live alone.

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Posted by DeathbyInches on 12/11/2011 at 1:11 AM

Funny as hell. Mikey said out loud what everyone was thinking. To damn bad he apologized. Louie and Mikey don't speak. Louie went and started his own newspaper. Two newspapers in a one horse town, and from the same freaking family.

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Posted by Orville Fulbright on 12/11/2011 at 8:11 PM

The pages are blurred because it is a subscription service. Only the first page is considered preview. Pretty standard in publishing. If you'd like to read the editorial, go to the "Boycott the Nashville News" facebook page.

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Posted by d1swark on 12/12/2011 at 5:19 PM

I did apologise to the citisens of Dequeen if they took offense at an editorial that was not meant to offend them. I was simply writing what I saw.
As for being a racist, or smallminded; I will let my actions speak for themselves.When I am in Mexico, I salute their flag, and take my hat off.
"Our" flag is now " their" flag if " they" intend to stay.
When I do have something to say, I say it.And have never hid behind the anonymity of facebook or blogs.
Mark Martin has more courage than the badmouthers who won't identify themselves.Mike Graves

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