The other name was Jay Martin, a two-term state representative for North Little Rock and Sherwood, who also ran for lieutenant governor in the 2006 Democratic primary but finished a distant fourth behind Halter, Mike Hathorn and Tim Wooldridge. He's a partner of a Little Rock law firm with a general practice that specializes in family matters. In private life he's also pastor to the Metro Worship Center, a ministry of the Amelia B. Ives Housing Projects that he founded in 1997.
Martin was out of town running a marathon in Louisiana Friday, but the signals I'm getting from several connected Democrats are that he's leaning toward entering the 2nd District Race. He'd start with scant name recognition. But it would be impossible to start a race with a lower approval rating than a sitting congressman, particularly one who has voted in lockstep with Republican leadershp on a people-damaging budget proposal that would end Medicare as guaranteed government insurance and who recently took a pretty aloof stand on providing a better day center for veterans on Little Rock's Main Street.
The poll matching only Halter and Griffin could be a product of the liberal groups that did some independent work in 2010 that encouraged Halter to get into the Senate race. It might or might not signal his own interest. He's been very careful in pronouncements so far, but my guess still would be that he plans to run for governor in 2014 and that he doesn't think that a race for Congress would be useful to that cause.
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All I can tell you is Bill Halter hasn't called me to tell me what he's going to do. I think him running is an excellent idea, but after the non-support of the Arkansas Democratic Party who chose a cross-dressing Republican turned lobbyist over him, the stab in the back that was Garland County, and such a great personal income that he doesn't need the headaches of public office, he may have lost any desire to help out a state whose shaky reputation has been totally sunk by the 6 assholes who are representing us to the nation now. Imagine the look on people's faces in DC when they hear someone say...I'm from Arkansas....eek.
But unless we unseat the 6 losers as soon as we can, we don't have much of a future ahead of us. I'm afraid the Citizens United decision has made it entirely possible to buy up the next election cycle across the board. Tim Griffin might be President next thing we know...Boss Womack could be Secretary of Defense or the director of Home Land Security and if that happens us white people will have a GPS up our rears and non-whites will be shipped off the continent. Great heavens to Betsy!
I'm with DBI. I don't think Halter will run against Timmy Boy. Arkansas needs Halter as Gov. or Sen., not Rep.
We'll never know for sure, but if Halter hadn't run against Lincoln, she might not have voted for cloture on ObamaCare - and then she might have survived the general election. Halter is largely responsible for Senator Boozman getting elected.
Nice try radical centrist, but no cigar. I'm glad the greedy bitch is gone and at least now we have a Republican voting Republican as it should be. Blanche lost because enough Democrats decided to bail on her. She wasn't a good Senator, she wasn't very smart or likeable and her voting record on many other things besides the cloture vote did her in.
How about voting with the giant credit card companies so good Americans could lose their house the next time someone in the family got sick? Her and Pryor both voted for that sell out to the 1%. Arkansans were sick of her whiny sing-song voice and her desertion of the Democratic Party when most of the important votes came up.
If Halter had had any help from the Democratic Party, if Obama & Bill Clinton had endorsed the real Democrat in the race instead of Blanche, if Garland County wasn't crooked, we'd have us a Senator Halter today. The Republicans didn't give us Boozman, our Democratic leaders-smeeders did.
come on now, rc, Lincoln's days were numbered and your weird fantasy excuse had nothing to do with it. In today's testosterone-fueled and brain cell-free political atmosphere no woman Democrat could have been elected against a dunce like Boozman. Lincoln had deserted the Democrats and they were too pissed to vote for her in November. All Boozman had to do was to act stupid and parrot the teabaggers' delusions. In fact, no acting was needed on his part.
I wouldn't hand Blanche's primary victory to establishment Demos or to Garland County voting screw-ups. As Max posted more than once during the primary season
there was a large number of Republicans voting in the D primary. Just look at the primary vote counts if you don't take his or my word for it. Republicans got to choose who Boozman ran against. They wanted Blanche.
Yossarian - She could have turned it to her advantage with an "I stopped ObamaCare" reelection campaign. It wouldn't have won her any friends in the White House, but she could have survived the election. Instead, Halter effectively forced her to commit political suicide.
Griffin is weak and can be beaten. But if Halter gets the nod, Griffin will run with a "Halter's more liberal than Blanche Lincoln" campaign. Scratch Halter and Elliott, try again.
Speaking of gone, Tim Griffin and Rick Crawford need to find out what it is like to try and find a new job in this economy in January 2013. I hope Griffin understands he's very lucky not to be wearing an orange jumpsuit in a Federal pen somewhere! Crawford needs to go back to the rodeo, doing whatever it was he did there, and hopefully make enough money so he can pay his bills this time around. How these 2 losers ever got elected to Congress is truly amazing!
Radical best you stay with operating systems/programing or whatever high tech stuff you do.
I don't want you making decisions for any campaign I like. Now, you're lack of understanding I would welcome if it was applied to Griffin's campaign.
Speaking of politics, there is a big confab of the Pharisees down in Texas who are plotting their next move in their quest to turn my country into a theocracy. Romney has too much liberal/moderate baggage in his past on the social issues. He is running, but he can't hide from them. Santorum seems to be the only one "pure" enough for the theocratic cabal.
R. Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention will be on CSPAN this AM. I will turn it off when he comes on. What a despicable human being! What can you expect from a denomination rooted in support for slavery?
If I have offended any of our Southern Baptist friends, perchance they are not familiar with their brands history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Bapt…
Another example of xtianist not understanding what Jesus was all about. They are so concerned with what happened 6,000 years---or more accurately 4.5 billion years---ago that they totally miss what his real message is.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/01…
h/t to Zandar at BJ
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/01/14/if…
Science is making inroads into the Calvinist tenet of "total depravity".
"Do you have the moral compass of a toddler?" The nature/nurture debate continues. I like to think Wordsworth was correct---we are born trailing clouds of glory---then the clouds get nurtured right out of some of us.
http://bigthink.com/ideas/41906
What can you expect from a country that is rooted in support of slavery?
2012 is not 1776; neither is 2012 1845.
Has any adult ever "lived down" the folly of his adolescence?
Why the frozen evaluations?
Just wonderin'.
Oh, and incidentally, unless somebody died and I didn't hear about it, R. Land is not president of the Southern Baptist Convention.
That honor(?) belongs to Bryant Wright.
Just sayin'.
I misspoke Sky. Land is president of The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, the moral and ethics concern entity of the Southern Baptist Convention. Land is opposed to just about anything that smacks of a social safety net---can't subject the masses to moral hazard I guess.
I stand by the rest of what I said. In 1995, the Convention voted to adopt a resolution renouncing its racist roots and apologizing for its past defense of slavery. This marked the denomination's first formal acknowledgment that racism played a role in its early history.
Rather late to the game for a religious denomination, don't you think?
Bill Halter, Jay Martin, Patrick Hays, Will Bond...Any of them will be fine with me, but please, SOMEBODY step forward while there's still time to raise a little money for you to run against the Puffin dough-boy.
Speaking of former state representative Jay Martin, is he Doug Martin (the Stephens man)'s brother? Sure looks like him.
Outlier, what you say is true (I assume) as far as it goes. But if you paint with a fine enough brush, you can focus upon any specific undesirable element you choose and make it appear to be a representative picture.
Most people aren't aware that the six Southern Baptist seminaries were never segregated.
Most people aren't aware that the convention adopted resolutions renouncing segregation after 1955.
Most people aren't aware that the Home Mission Board of the SBC had a department of "racial relations" (I don't remember it's precise title) headed by a black former pastor.
Most people seem happy enough to overlook the positive things the Southern Baptist Convention did and condemn it for its shortcomings, weaknesses, and evils.
No one has ever denied, and in my generation no one ever defended, the convention for its position in 1845 that led to its constitution. Nevertheless, despite its views on slavery at the time, its primary focus was missions and it never departed from that basically humanitarian aim with its instituiton of hospitals, schools, homes for unwed mothers, men's rescue missions, etc., etc., etc., both at home and abroad.
The Southern Baptist Convention was no more perfect than the humans who composed it, but despite its flaws, it was dedicated to the higher and nobler elements, impulses, and efforts of its people. I don't think you'll find any instance, for example, where the Southern Baptist Convention ever endorsed or excused the Ku Klux Klan!!!
Now, in recent years, I find its position on women deplorable, which is one of the main reasons I no longer associate with it. It also departed from some of its earlier positions and left me about two decades ago.
As for Richard Land, he is an authoritarian, arrogant, pompous ass who labors under the delusion that he speaks for the Southern Baptist Convention, and/or for Southern Baptists as individuals. Somehow he has grown up ignorant of the fact that no Southern Baptist is EVER authorized to speak for any other Southern Baptist. Which is another reason the SBC departed from my company!
IMHO
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