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      <![CDATA[thanks for sharing.<br>
        
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      <![CDATA[Driftglass explains it all for you using excerpts from President Clinton's "My Life".<br>
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This, my children, is why we won't get any sensible gun control. Driftglass concludes, "When then the day comes that being a member of the NRA triggers the same public gag reflex as being a  member of the Klan, things will change. Until then, it won't matter how many Americans are butchered by lunatics packing more firepower than the Continental Army. "<br>
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      <![CDATA[Hacket, I betcha that S&W with the 100 round magazine jammed because it either heated up to the point that the action seized up or because it was a cheap, crappy aftermarket magazine.  I have a .22 rifle.  It's the old fashioned kind with the lever underneath that I have to work like Chuck Conners to eject the fired casing and load the fresh round.  Sometimes I will take it to the local range and hang a target 50 yards away and see how well I can shoot.  Now the tiny little .22 bullets don't hold much gunpowder (it's nitrocellulose now) but my barrel will get damned warm after 20 or so shots downrange and really hot after about 50 or so unless I take my time and give it a chance to cool down.  Now if my dinky little rifle will get like that, how hot does the kind of rifle that Holmes used to kill those people get and how much faster does that happen with the high powered ammunition he used?<br>
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Here's a video of someone shooting an AR-15 fully automatic assault rifle until...well, watch the video and see what happens when a gun heats up.  If you get bored, FF to about 1:59<br>
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Here's an AK-47 doing the same thing with a drum magazine, it gets super hot after a few 75 round drums:<br>
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I do want to differentiate between the rifle in the 1st video and the semi-automatic rifle Holmes used.  I could buy one exactly like his at any gun store but I don't want it or need one.  I can't buy one that shoots like the AK. I don't need more than 15 rounds.  If I went back to small game hunting, the 15 shots in my Henry would last me all day.
        
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      <![CDATA[It is a sick society when the majority allows the nuts to run the asylum.
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 23:27:17 -0500</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Drackman <br>
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There were  17352  gun deaths in the USA in 2011... that kind of dwarfs your 11000 DWI deaths. One difference the gun deaths were for the most part not an accident. <br>
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I have stated before that comparing deaths by accident for any cause & death by firearm is a complete waste of time.
        
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      <![CDATA[. Oh yeah, the Smith and Wesson rifle with the 100 round magazine the shooter had jammed, it was inoperable when the police arrested him.<br>
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Yea and how many caps popped before it jammed ? 90 or 95?
        
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      <![CDATA[Because the perp in the Colorado case was in a darkened theater at the premier of a violent movie would be my silly guess. <br>
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And while I could not easily find it, there was a story about someone in Az (same person? don't know) who had a gun, but chose not to shoot because he was concerned that he did not know who to shoot and might have shot an innocent bystander.  Those who are trained generally know what they're doing.<br>
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But then I was once a trained law enforcement officer with a gun. And shooting amidst the chaos would have been a bad choice in either situation.
        
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      <![CDATA[A question. Every time it's brought up that a citizen with a carry permit might, and I will agree with the phrase "might", have made a difference for the better in this incident one of the main replies is that an untrained citizen would do more harm than good, with no training or experience they would be totally inept. Well no where has there been any hint that the shooter had any training, background or experience  as an soldier, police officer or even as a para-military type. So why does this lack of training/experience make a legally carrying, permit holder inept, but the same lack of training and/or experience make the perpetrator invincible?
        
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      <![CDATA["I've no problem with weapons for hunting & for personal protection but assault weapons have no function but mass killing."<br>
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In your small world, maybe, but there are hundreds of thousands of good, decent, law-abiding citizens who own millions of semi-automatic and fully automatic weapons courtesy of the Second Amendment, who admire their histories, their designs and workmanship, and who enjoying shooting them with their families and friends. Events like the one at the link below go on all over the United States every month of every year, and there are no mass killings taking place.<br>
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There were almost 11,000 people killed in 2009 due to alcohol-related motor vehicle accidents. Not only is there relatively no outrage about that, but we continue to condone driving under the influence.<br>
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I'm contrasting public opinion of alcohol-related traffic deaths with that of mass shootings to point out how political opinion of Second Amendment issues is the fuel stoking the outrage we're seeing on this blog and elsewhere, not genuine concern for stopping the murder of innocents.<br>
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      <![CDATA[I agree with Vanessa, and fear more such insanity in this long, hot summer.  More importantly, I hope we will find out WHY.  What would cause an apparently well-educated, privileged person to go on such a rampage?  Is it nothing more than paronia or schizophrenia?  Was he trying to convey a social or political message?   There are a lot of potential killers wandering around  out there, and we do not do much to try to figure out WHY.   Psychiatry now has devolved  to basically prescribing legal dope  to keep people tranquil.  What the hell is wrong with our society that would  provoke people to go on such a rampage?
        
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      <![CDATA[srh - except that's not what happens when someone does have a gun. <br>
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But he would have...................
        
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      <![CDATA["Notice that hasn't happened in any of the string of mass killings at the hands of crazy people?"  DBI <br>
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It hasn't happened because all these mass killings happened in "GUN FREE ZONES", the theater  was posted "NO GUNS". Also the city of Aurora has the strictest gun laws in the state of Colorado, the state has sued them about preempting state law on guns. Why do you think these nuts pick these kinds of places to shoot up? They know that until the police show up they will have no armed opposition.
        
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      <![CDATA[As usual DBI you pretty well summed it up!<br>
        
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      <![CDATA[OK....if the gun nuts masturbating over their guns on this thread won't agree on banning assault rifles, how about we ban all Internet sales of ammunition?  This crazy guy who spray paints his head bright red and no body notices buys 6000 rounds online....online!  Where does it say in the 2nd amendment of the Constitution that anyone has the right to buy bullets online?<br>
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If some sum bitch needs to buy bullets he can go buy them face to face with another human who might decide as crazy as he's acting he doesn't need no more bullets. Plus even Helen Keller would know a person was up to bad bad things if they bought 6000 rounds of anything at her gun shop. <br>
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Why do we make it easy to kill people? Who besides the weapons manufacturers, the NRA, street gangs, drug smugglers, and deranged killers with a plan benefits from easy weapon or ammunition sales? Don't any of you gun nuts realize it could be your kids sitting in the next theater hit by a heavily armed crazy person?<br>
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Oh, I guess you're too caught up in fantasizing that you or our armed kid would do a triple somersault in midair and fill the perp with your lead....like you see on TV and at the movies all the time. Notice that hasn't happened in any of the string of mass killings at the hands of crazy people? The old man in eLwood's video scared off the bad guys but if he was really shooting it appears he didn't hit the bad guys at point blank range.  <br>
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Americans.....too damn many Americans are fantasizing us down the toilet or into the grave. Believing God works thru Mitt Romney but not thru the Kenyan Socialist is crazy. Believing Republicans can end taxes is crazy. Believing Republicans can end  oversight and regulation and allow absolute FREE TRADE is crazy. Believing your gun will fix everything is crazy. Believing Arkansas's delegation to Congress helps America is crazy. Believing everyone has to be armed is crazy. Allowing anyone to buy cop killing weapons or ammunition is crazy. Making it easy for anyone to amass 6000 rounds of ammunition is crazy. STOP BEING CRAZY, adult-up and leave your fantasies in the bedroom where they belong.
        
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      <![CDATA[No more comment from me after linking to this article, which I think would make sense to any reasonable person:<br>
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"Whether this tragedy was preventable is debatable. But what is not debatable is that the degree of mayhem could have been mitigated by a serious effort to control the excesses of ever-greater firepower. There is no justification for current policies that aid and abet mass murderers."<br>
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      <![CDATA[It is my right to possess and use any magazine capacity I wish to use. <br>
Assault weapons are fully automatic firearms, semi automatic firearms are also purchased with a background check, just like a pistol. That is if you buy your firearms legally like most of us do. You can't stop the criminal from obtaining altered firearms to use in their crimes. But , nconcealed  handgun license holders are there to protect themselves and you if he need arises. Stop depending on police, their firearm is for their protection , not yours.
        
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      <![CDATA[All everyone harps on is the 100 round magazine the shooter had and in truth, if he'd had ten 10 round or five 20round mags, he'd have done a lot more damage. The big magazines are very unreliable. The armed forces uses 20 round magazines and you don't load them with 20 rounds, you put 18 or 19 in them because if you top them off they are more likely to jam. I haven't seen a report anywhere yet, but I'll make a bet that the vast majority of the people shot in the theater were hit by shots from the Remington 870 pump shotgun, a sporting gun that holds 8 shells in it's magazine and with one in the chamber that's 9. If he emptied the shotgun only once and didn't reload, that's 9 buckshot shells, if it was #4 buckshot it had 41 .24 caliber lead shots, #00 would have 15 .33 caliber shots per shell. So if he shot 9 #4 buckshots at the crowd he shot 369 .33 caliber balls of lead, without reloading. Oh yeah, the Smith and Wesson rifle with the 100 round magazine the shooter had jammed, it was inoperable when the police arrested him.
        
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      <![CDATA[2004, in Massachusetts, Romney signed a law banning assault weapons. A laudable move, but another reason Repug voters find it difficult to support their nominee. With this, his cult membership, his distance from actual people, and his shifting platform of momentary convenience, he won't find enough voters to win.
        
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      <![CDATA[Here's one for our pro-carry folks...a video of grandpa stopping an armed robbery at<br>
 a computer cafe:<br>
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjH3ZMUks1o&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjH3ZMUks1o&hellip;</a><br>
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Tell us, what's wrong with this picture?
        
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      <![CDATA[This is an Obamanation<br>
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How many mass killings have there been with flintlocks? Your 600 years of firearms & 200 years of second amendment have little in common with death by assault weapon.<br>
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I've no problem with weapons for hunting & for personal protection but assault weapons have no function but mass killing. If the NRA and their ilk don't gain enough common sense to bend a little with the current climate of mass killing they're going to lose a lot more than assault weapons. The NRA's all or nothing could cost most. <br>
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I've got shotguns,rifles & handguns for personal protection & those uses necessary on a farm & ranch. I don't want to lose them for macho stupidity because the NRA wants a bigger gun.
        
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      <![CDATA[The 2nd amendment nor the Bill of Rights seemed to address any sports, passtimes or hobbies.  <br>
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In my readings of Federalist Papers or biographies of Framers I never saw any indications that the Founders were concerned with target practice competitions, hunting or collectors of old firearms.<br>
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My interpretations of the whole reason for keeping and bearing arms was a control on the power of the state by citizens.<br>
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I am always amused that collecting or sports are insinuated as the reason the 2nd Amendment was included.<br>
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The Redcoats had guns and the Colonists feared the King disarming them and the Americas could be subjigated and plundered like Africa and the rest of the British Empire had been.<br>
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All indications of the reason for the right to keep and bear arms was to counteract crooked abusive officials and a gov't attempting to repress the rights of Speech, Press, Assembly, Petition etc.
        
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      <![CDATA[And just why does any target shooter need a 100-shot magazine or even a 30-shot magazine.  Just how lazy are these idiots.  More on the next "people of Walmart" video coming?<br>
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When the Constitution was written, the available gun was a musket.  You got your one shot and then it became a baseball bat.  It takes someone as nutty as Scalia to see that "firearm" in that context translates directly into semi-automatice machine gun or assult weapon. Probably also could be construed to mean small personal tactical nuclear weapon. Why didn't Scalia just ask Madison and Jefferson what they meant since his thinking seems to show that he was there at the time?
        
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      <![CDATA[At the end of the day, I wish this wasn't politicized. I wish every comment on this blog and elsewhere reflected nothing more than sadness at the tragedy and sympathy for the victims.<<<br>
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We went through that already. Pay attention. This is day four. <br>
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About your "deep down" foolishness, "you liberals all know that gun laws would have done nothing to prevent this from happening."<br>
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How could we "liberals" or any other beings in this nation ever know that? <br>
We've never had gun laws that are truly restrictive, like hunting weapons only with background checks and restrictive licenses plus mandatory training. <br>
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If you followed these "liberal" threads you would have read that most of us conceded that America is too far gone to reign in the proliferation of guns. We will continue to have our semi-annual gun massacres so we can all be free and we can "at the end of the day" mourn another gun massacre year after year. <br>
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      <![CDATA[I agree, Gylippus, that the old assault weapons ban needed improvement.  Indeed, regulation of firearms in general greatly needs improvement.  Personally, I think that strict licensing and tracking ownership of all firearms is possible in this computer age and would not be an "infringement" upon the the right to bear arms.  My point in the foregoing is that, IMHO, the old assault weapons ban was a good beginning and unobjectionable to any reasonable and responsible person.
        
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      <![CDATA[Also, too, TIA, that error about Holmes being a teapartier was VERY QUICKLY walked back with apologies. When Faux News starts doing that, I will be more sympathetic to your outrage.<br>
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And I'm kinda of the belief that when folks say stupid shit, the best response is to point and laugh. They have already demonstrated that they are not open to rational argument so what other recourse is left?
        
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