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      <![CDATA[There's not a shred of evidence that the huge over-representation of white men in positions of wealth and power has anything to do with superior performance of white men. To the contrary. The Wall Street meltdown is a case in point: the very same white guys who caused the crisis through their epic incompetence are still sitting in their plush positions collecting their undeserved over-sized paychecks. Only a tiny minority of them have suffered adverse consequences even after having proved their recklessness and incompetence. <br>
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This whole country is run like a good old boys club. The University of Arkansas is no exception. Anybody complaining about "Affirmative Action" for blacks can't be serious. This is the country of corporate welfare and taxpayer subsidies for CEOs. Americans are proud of providing "Affirmative Action" to the 1% who are wrecking their society.
        
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      <![CDATA[To treat anyone differently because of race, gender, religion or national origin is a violation of the Civil Rights Act. It is time to quit treating people differently because they happen to belong to any class.<br>
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If black students can't get into a good college because of their grades, that has nothing to do with a court ruling, but it has everything to do with their performance. The idea that we LOWER the standards to accept students into medical school, so they can have the opportunity to practice medicine, is all fine and well until my family member needs to have surgery or gets sick. Then I want the BEST doctor, regardless of race, gender, religion or national origin to provide the with health care. Why should someone who worked harder, who was smarter, and who is more likely to save a patient's life be exiled because we want to make room for someone was was less competent? That notion is ridiculous. <br>
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The way to end racism is to quit treating some people special because of the sins of the past, and to quit framing all discussion in the context of race. Just STOP. Universities should not even ask the question of what race the student is who is applying, as it has no basis for determining who is going to succeed or be the best student. <br>
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People should advance on merit, not race, and this is common sense. You don't need the SCOTUS to tell you that treating people different because of race is wrong.
        
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      <![CDATA[Chancellor Gearhart had the opportunity to prove his support for Affirmative Action when he was appointed to his position.  He could have insisted that the position go to a diversity quota and refused to accept the job.  But as usual, Affirmative Action always discriminates against the powerless white person and never effects the white liberal or their families.  There is no more glaring example of this than the racial composition of the journalists of the Arkansas Times.  Which one of them will give up their position for a diversity quota?  None I'll bet, even though they insist others do.<br>
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Wendell Griffin has to ask himself, when do African-Americans accept responsibility for their own development?  Even if they were prevented from attending white universities and colleges during the Jim Crow era, didn't they have black universities to attend?  Why didn't they create their own businesses and banks and economic infrastructure the way that other races did?  The reason has more to do with an African heritage that was insufficient in the knowledge of economic development than them being held down.<br>
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Griffin also has to accept that African-American as well as other families are in a worse state currently due to the Democratic Party's Great Society than they were before the advent of those programs.  The Great Society has created millions of single parent homes with fatherless, less educated children, not learning the social skills or having the discipline to complete a university degree or hold a middle-class job.  In spite of this, Griffin, the Democrats et al. want to set up a permanent system of discrimination against other races to compensate for the unintended consequences of the welfare state -  and mislead the public to believe their biggest problem is still discrimination - and dominate the networks and liberal print media (a form of tyranny) to censor anyone from explaining this colossal failure to the people.<br>
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Griffin uses the analogy of the Marshall Plan that rebuilt Europe but the difference is it didn't call for discrimination against neighboring countries the way Affirmative Action calls for discrimination against other citizens.  Reverse discrimination is a gross abuse of human rights against other human beings that has dire and adverse effects on their educational and professional opportunities and standard of living for their entire lives.  A case could be made at the United Nations that Affirmative Action is a human rights violation.<br>
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Griffin and Gearhart also have to accept the message that Affirmative Action sends to the intended beneficiaries.  It essentially says, it doesn't matter how little they study or prepare themselves they will still be accepted over others into a school or get the job - so why should they try.<br>
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Affirmative Action is an elevation of African-Americans and Hispanics above others in our society primarily for the purpose of ensuring the powerful positions of the Democratic Party regardless that they have to discriminate against their own race to do it.
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:03:14 -0500</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[>Arkansas' tradition of "saving" spots for incompetent doctors is scary.<br>
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But not nearly as scary as your begging the question. Been a race-baiting Southerner all your life?
        
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      <![CDATA[Arkansas' tradition of "saving" spots for incompetent doctors is scary.  Don't people deserve better even though they live in counties where the medical student admitees  don't make the grades to get in except that they are minorities or happen to be the "smartest kid in the county" yet need r-e-m-e-d-i-a-l chemistry and biology before or while they take UAMS med school classes?<br>
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Or is it that a primary care doctor's functions are overblown in stated complexity so that an RN nursing major graduate can really perform many of the functions of a primary care MD at least for routine stuff?<br>
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IMHO, RN's need to be elevated in stature and duties (and salary!) in treating patients while Primary Care Physicians need to be freed up to see fewer patients where they can spend more time with the more problematic issues facing patients.
        
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      <![CDATA[Affirmative action is a racist.  Let the best and the brightest battle it out regardless of race.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[couldn't be better]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[You can create a "lilly white" school but you may lose those international students who pay full fare for other schools where they will see someone who looks like them. This state is still racist enough that the effort needs to continue.  It will be another two or three generations at the rate of change we are seeing.  Of course, the rest of the country is moving forward while the south moves back to 1956.
        
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      <![CDATA[I realize that the article is about student, not faculty, diversity. But those are really two sides of the same coin. The Office of Equal Opportunity and Compliance's stated goal is "to prohibit discrimination of its students, faculty, and staff and to make every effort to eliminate discrimination within the university community". The University of Arkansas Affirmative Action Plan actually addresses only employment equality, not student diversity. And interestingly, it is not available online. (Check out <a href="http://diversity.uark.edu/17.php" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://diversity.uark.edu/17.php</a> and <a href="http://oeoc.uark.edu/145.php" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://oeoc.uark.edu/145.php</a>). In case you were wondering: no, the Plan does not include any quotas or other "reverse discrimination" measures, only a commitment to nondiscrimination. One wonders why they are making it difficult to access?
        
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      <![CDATA[Anybody wondering about Equal Opportunity and Diversity at the University of Arkansas only needs to look at the OIR statistics (<a href="http://oir.uark.edu/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://oir.uark.edu</a>). For example, still only 25% of tenured professors are women. That figure has hardly changed in the last decade. The only category of faculty where women are over-represented is at the instructor level, the lowest and lowly paid category without long-term perspectives and job security, without a voice in faculty meetings etc. The fact is that many departments like (and are even encouraged) to hire female or minority instructors because they count towards "faculty diversity", while the tenured upper ranks of many departments remain white men's bastions as they were decades ago. It is also noteworthy that with all the growth in student enrollment, the number of faculty and especially of tenured faculty hardly increases.
        
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      <![CDATA[Mr. Smith, I encourage you to look at the racial composition of facility at these institution and you will see that there is no balance which reflects upon the recruitment in trying to maintain the illusion of diversity.
        
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    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 02:07:14 -0500</pubDate>
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