http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2012/09/19/chick-fil-a-makes-concessions-in-chicago Comments On: Chick-fil-A exiting fight against gay rights by Max Brantley en-us Copyright 2013 Arkansas Times. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, Arkansas Times readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact Arkansas Times. robert@arktimes.com (Arkansas Times Webmaster) Thu, 20 Jun 2013 00:00:01 -0500 Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:30:00 -0500 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by RYD]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:15:24 -0500 Arkansas Times Posted by plainjim]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:02:15 -0500 Arkansas Times Posted by YossarianMinderbinder]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:34:06 -0500 Arkansas Times Posted by Max Brantley]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:45:19 -0500 Arkansas Times Posted by FullThrottle]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:26:40 -0500 Arkansas Times Posted by Mean Gene]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:42:21 -0500 Arkansas Times
The bible tells us so was the fundamental argument I heard over and over again, growing up as a boy in Arkansas, about why white folks should have the "right" to practice discrimination against black folks.

Fast forward a half century, and you'd be hard pressed to find large numbers of people willing to voice openly those "religious" ideas (though they're still held in private). Or to defend the "right" of people to practice racial discrimination on the grounds of "religious freedom."

Just as you'd be hard pressed to find a large percentage of people who would argue that the government has no business restricting the right of groups to practice racial discrimination--even if they do believe that the bible tells them so. This was precisely what the case of Bob Jones v. U.S. was about--a case in which the Supreme Court, under a GOP president, Ronald Reagan, instructed Bob Jones Univ. to stop practicing discrimination, no matter what the school believed about the bible, or forego federal funding.

The notion that racial discrimination is intolerable and the government has a hand in assuring that it cease was once considered impossibly "leftist."

i wonder on what credible ground folks who now argue that discrimination against gays, because the bible tells me so, is a case apart from the case of race build their argument. When there are such self-evident parallels between the cases of racial discrimination and discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation.

People were just as convinced in 1950 that the bible tells them they must draw discriminatory lines between white skin and black skin as many folks are now convinced (in places like Arkansas, where it's still 1950) that the bible tells them they must draw discriminatory lines between straight folks and gay ones. And they're just as wrong about the latter conviction as they were about the former one.
Posted by William D. Lindsey]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:33:15 -0500 Arkansas Times Posted by FullThrottle]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:52:50 -0500 Arkansas Times
The denial of rights is if a mayor or alderman (gov't official) bases a zoning decision on the owner's religion or lack there of.

I do have a problem with gov't restraining speech.

We fault the Libyans and Egyptions for not knowing the difference between someone in America making a silly movie or the GOV'T making an offensive movie.

The Arab Spring countries are 6 months into developing rules and laws and we don't cut them slack when they get it all wrong.

We have had 200 plus years and people can't seem to understand the freedom of speech is in respect to gov't not infringing but other citizens don't have to listen AND they are free to shout back or boycott you.
Posted by Citizen1]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:47:28 -0500 Arkansas Times
Imagine a political figure trying to "effect" a business's decision. In the U.S. of A., at that!

Nobody's free speech has been throttled in the Chik-fil-A situation, Full Throttle.

The owners of this business have had perfect liberty to make their views known.

Just as those who oppose their bigotry have every right to make our views known.

When businesses whose bottom line is profit, after all, find out that there's a price to be paid for voicing bigotry, it's absurd for them or anyone else to claim they've been denied free speech.
Posted by William D. Lindsey]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:41:03 -0500 Arkansas Times
Substitute women or African American for gay in any of those stories and no one would be defending Chik-fil-a---at least not in public.
Posted by the outlier]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:12:59 -0500 Arkansas Times
Two words for Chick-fil-A: one's a verb, the other's a pronoun.


Posted by Norma Bates]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:06:46 -0500 Arkansas Times Posted by rainbowharold]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:01:05 -0500 Arkansas Times Posted by FullThrottle]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:32:16 -0500 Arkansas Times Posted by Doc]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:59:26 -0500 Arkansas Times
And money also talks.

No one's free speech has been in any way infringed in this saga.

People have used their money both to voice support for Chik-fil-A and vice versa. It appears that the food chain may have recognized that, as a business, it behooves them not to alienate large numbers of people who use their right of free speech to voice discontent with bigotry.
Posted by William D. Lindsey]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:48:09 -0500 Arkansas Times
I'm calling BS on this one!
Posted by RYD]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:23:28 -0500 Arkansas Times Posted by DeathbyInches]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:00:52 -0500 Arkansas Times Posted by Pavel Korchagin]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:55:04 -0500 Arkansas Times
"Does this mean they’ll finally be open on Sundays too? I mean, if they’re not hating on the gays, they’re probably going to Hell anyway…"
Posted by the outlier]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:46:51 -0500 Arkansas Times Posted by FullThrottle]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:27:29 -0500 Arkansas Times