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      <![CDATA[rc, if you move to downtown Conway, you need a 2nd floor location or get with the fire department and get your supply of sand bags.  The town has had drainage issues downtown for the 16 years I have lived in the county and they solved them by putting down more asphalt and building round-abouts, ball complexes, a new EXPO center, and lots of stuff for kids but the downtown water issue is a major problem.  Come over after a heavy rain and you can see where you don't want to locate (especially along Oak or Parkway).
        
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      <![CDATA[Yes SkyP<br>
Your post plus ES.<br>
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In my estimation:<br>
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Perfect Building + No Educated = FAIL<br>
No Building + Perfect Educated = Success<br>
Halfass Building + Some Educated = Some success<br>
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In other words spend efforts educating instead of building.
        
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      <![CDATA[Razorbabies --<br>
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Here's ONE thing . . . .<br>
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As long as The Rock and The Natural State are crippled by a well-deserved reputation for Backwoods Bigotry, as they've been for 179 years, what do you expect?<br>
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Look at Jacksonville. Look at that bridge!<br>
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Yet STILL . . . here's one CEO who WON'T locate a business there because of the anti-gay climate reflected in letters and op-eds in local papers.<br>
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<a href="http://www.advocate.com/business/2012/10/04/read-why-ceo-refuses-do-business-antigay-jacksonville" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.advocate.com/business/2012/10/0&hellip;</a><br>
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The world's moved on.<br>
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What well-educated newcomer wants to be greeted by, "Where do you go to church?" every time they mix and mingle?
        
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      <![CDATA[Citizen 1: If your "eggs" remark was directed at me, or prompted by my post, I tend to agree.  You have to start somewhere, and well-digging is the only profession I know where you start at the top.<br>
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An educational base, and an infrastructure base, seem mandatory to erect any superstructure.<br>
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I know one building in Louisville where they built the top floor first, jacked it up and built the next one under it, jacked them up and built the ground floor last--but that's the only example of that kind of building I've ever heard of.<br>
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But you're right--in my estimation: some of the initially-educated will have to leave to find appropriate employment, then perhaps come back--or else find some other means of support while waiting for the "appropriate" jobs to develop.<br>
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I just hope we can figure a way to get it off the ground and work our way up from 50th place in everything desirable.
        
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      <![CDATA[Word from Conway is - They're wiring up the downtown district with fiber-optic networking and offices for tech startups.  They have some good lunch spots in walking distance.  I'm thinking about leaving Torture Town, and moving to Cow Town.
        
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      <![CDATA[Now ALL of the above is moot without good schools for children.  The CofC needs at a minimum stop trashing and strangling our schools.  <br>
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NOBODY will move a family or establish a family in an area with high crime or failing schools.<br>
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Step 1<br>
develope a strong school district, this will supply graduates to move onto higher education.<br>
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Step 2<br>
When existing office space is filled after step 1, private businesses will build more.<br>
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Use the 22 million on schools, police and roads and parks.
        
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      <![CDATA[corporate welfare for Catholic Health Initiatives, UAMS/St. Vincent's deal...Just another dollar in Dickson Flake's pocket
        
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      <![CDATA[There were eggs long before there were chickens but there would not have been chickens in their current form without eggs.<br>
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1st step is to educate.  <br>
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All educated city residents would benefit.  Some would stay here, some would move off.  But some that moved off would come back.  Opportunity would lure back expats.<br>
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Either way there would be a mass of educated available to attract business.<br>
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Without being educated nothing would happen, other than some undeucated staying and eaking out some existance but other uneducated slinking off in search of something.<br>
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To surmise, with no pool of educated, no businesses would be lured, so an empty office building would remain so.
        
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      <![CDATA[A city, actually our state and our nation needs to FIRST establish world highest fiber internet speeds at affordable rates to every single home on the old wire-phone or electric grid. Then we would see incredible ides develop.... some will even grow and perhaps need a larger space. But the City of LR should always maintain ownership and receive full return on their investments in said park... not give it all away and double that amount to bondsharks as well. Make the state a tech park first! Then people will live and invest here beyond our imagination.<br>
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Never negotiate with criminals of this sort... and reject neoliberal s, their cons, no matter where they raise their ugly heads. If neoliberals were oncologists you would hear your doctor saying - We need more tumors!
        
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      <![CDATA[LR has tons of vacant office space.
        
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      <![CDATA[Guy Kawasaki, a venture capitalist and veteran of Apple, wrote a column a few years back about how to create another Silicon Valley -- and one item on his not-to-do list was building vacant office space. Great read: <a href="http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2006/06/how_to_kick_sil.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2006/06/how_to&hellip;</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[I really don't want to sound like a know-it-all, but here's one emery in the ointment:  Companies are attracted to places where there is an abundance of qualified workers, "a deep local pool of skilled workers."<br>
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OK.  Suppose we have a lot of students earn appropriate degrees and become "qualified" for all of these high-paying jobs, or workers with training and experience.  What do they do to survive while they're waiting for these new companies to come in and employ them?<br>
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Or does "deep local pool of skilled workers" suggest that there's a high level of unemployment among the skilled?<br>
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Otherwise, it seems to me that a new company would have to come in and hire the skilled workers away from the companies that are already employing them.  Else, they have to move into the community where the jobs are "created."  And if they have to come from somewhere else, what is the attraction or incentive for the companis to come here?<br>
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Just how does anyone "manage" to make all these things fall into place appropriately?  It seems to me we have a chicken-and-egg situation here.  Companies want to go where there's a "deep pool of skilled workers," but skilled workers aren't going to stay around where there's no company to hire them.  How do we get this thing off the ground?
        
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      <![CDATA[If LR stopped right now and declared the "tech park" a bad idea, (1) what would happen; (2) how much would we still have to pay because of some asinine "deal" the city made with the promoters of the fiasco?
        
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      <![CDATA[This is exaclty what NLR is doing.  Investing a quarter BILLION dollars in new schools for EVERY student, creating places and a small town feel.  Still a lot to do, but we are starting.  Watch and learn over the next four years
        
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      <![CDATA[Exactly, Silver, this has nothing to do with a tech park. This is about being trickled on once again by Flake and the gang at City Hall, nothing more, nothing less. Why we continue the charade of the tech park is beyond me.<br>
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Verla, these arguments have been made in City Hall for about 50 years. They fall on deaf ears. It's so much easier to simply hand the tax dollars out at LRCC and LRCofC. A growing city would increase competition and raise labor costs. No good.
        
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      <![CDATA[From up here in the hills, the tech park appears to be the poster child for the real redistribution of wealth that has gone on for the last 40 years.  Not only do they propose to transfer tax dollars from the middle class to the already wealthy, now they want to transfer people's homes.<br>
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If you believe that the purpose of the scheme is to create long-term benefits for the many as opposed to short-term profits for the few, Max has a steel mill in Alabama that he'd like you to visit.
        
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      <![CDATA[Max--the last paragraph says it all.  How can we double-down on this so the word gets around?  How do we get the powers-that-be to listen?  How do we change those power-to-be when no opposition appears on the ballot?  I feel like we are whistling in the wind and preaching to the choir.
        
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