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      <![CDATA[Yes, DBI,  he was more like Mike than Win, that's for sure.
        
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      <![CDATA[It's really far far far too complicated to cover on blog posts, jim. Powel Clayton was the devil, which doesn't make the secessionists angels. Calling him an 1868 Scott Walker would have been a better choice only he was worse since half of his own party hated him. He waltzed into this state at our lowest point and he and his henchmen proceeded to take over. <br>
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He was the most hated man in Arkansas and if we were smart we'd remember to continue hating him and his kind of politics today because his ilk are the great great granddaddies of the modern GOP. <br>
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He was the leader of the investment group that built the Crescent Hotel and I believe brought the railroad to that part of Arkansas and of course died in DC, a very rich man....one of the early 1% practicing vulture capitalism. If he had been born later he would have written a diet book and built a beach front mansion in Florida...don't ya know.
        
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      <![CDATA[DBI, you know Powell Clayton also lived in Eureka Springs for awhile, and I think was one of the people who built the Crescent Hotel there. This was after his political career. I think you are being a little too rough on him. He was fighting for the rights of the Freemen, against an entrenched Southern aristocracy which had been deposed.  The tactics of both side were brutal; there were killings by both factions.  Politics was different then.  Of course, Powell Clayton was a carpetbagger, but what would out state history have been without the carpetbaggers? Your comparison with Dick Cheney is villianizing Clayton a little too much.  Can you see the oppressors going meekly into the night without the pressure from the North?  No way.  Reconstruction was a necessary chapter in our history.  Didn't the criminal who led the Southern Insurrection, otherwise known as the War of the Great Rebellion, receive pardons for their crimes after two or three years?  Seems like I remember reading that somewhere.
        
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      <![CDATA[Powell Clayton was an earlier version of Dick Cheney. He wouldn't be sitting with Karl Rove on Fox News, he wasn't a publicity hound, he was a power monger and he sucked it all up in his day.  He was a radical, carpetbagging Minstrel Republican, so awful that regular Republicans were still cussing him up into the 21st century. <br>
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As our first Republican governor, he saddled Arkansas with enormous debt when we were penniless, was so awful the regular Republicans joined with the dis-enfranchised Democrats to elect him a US Senator just to get him out of this state.  Clayton took office in 1871 after a giant stink since he realized he'd been tricked and tried to get out of claiming his Senate seat.  He caused the Brooks-Baxter War and was even more ethically challenged than Mike Huckabee. <br>
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You can bet he'd be a major behind the scenes leader of the Republican if he was still kicking. If he had had Cheney's doctors, he wouldn't have finally, thankfully, died in 1914.  Oh lord.......we wouldn't have a chance if Clayton was still alive to team up with Karl Rove, Rush, Tim Griffin in 2012....The Romney-Obama War would be heating up right about....................now!
        
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      <![CDATA[I should also have given credit above to the Gays and Lesbians for their contributions to the "New Revolution."  It was not an intentional omission.  It just came from typing too fast.
        
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      <![CDATA[My Carroll County Clark ancestors were among those Powell Clayton Republicans.  They were Northern sympathizers--poor, hardcrabble, hillside subsistence farmers who lived out on Keels Creek, and had absolutely nothing in common with the plantation-owning Confederates.  My great-great grandfather served briefly in the Union Army, until it came time to plant crops, when he went home without the formality of obtaining permission beforehand.  They caught him, and court-martialed him at Cassville, Missouri, and then discharged him and sent him home.  Years later, though, in the early years of the 20th Century, his widow was able to appeal to the government and get a survivor's veteran pension of $13.00 a month.  She lived in Eureka Springs by that time, and reported to the government that she owned a three-room house, and a cow, and a garden place.  That is  how she lived.<br>
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Isn't it amazing that such humble people were the Republicans of that time.  My family continued the tradition until my older sister, an ardent admirer of JFK, and I broke away and became Democrats.  The Hill Country Republicans in Arkansas were Republicans  because they had no brief for Southern aristocracy and slavery, a tradition that modern Republicans in the guise of Loy Mauch would love to bring back.<br>
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Max mentioned Rockefeller Republican Bob Scott of Rogers, who no longer has any brief for the modern Republican Party.  I think his family background is about the same as mine.  This 180-degree turn in the Republican Party began with Goldwater and Nixon, who sensed the anger of Southern Democrats, who were losing control of their own party, and began pandering to them, even if it meant corrupting the ideals of their own Party,  founded by Lincoln.  The "Southern Strategy" was born.  It started in 1964; came to fruition in 1968, after President Johnson had rammed through the Civil Rights Act.  For awhile. the third party candidate, George Wallace , derailed the GOP plan, but after he was shot, it was an open field.<br>
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Now, the Republican Party is comprised of angry white men, and in some instances, their subservient, good Mormon-like wives.  The world is changing around them.  They are now the minority.  They can't run things anymore.  The new power center is comprised of women (whom I love for all that they have done), Hispanics, blacks and Asians.  This is really the Rainbow Coalition.  If the Democrats can keep the coalition together, we can control things for a long time.<br>
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This has been a long rant.  If I was wrong about my history, I hope Cato will correct me.
        
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      <![CDATA[Then carpet bagging. Now carpet bombing of the political process. The GOPs have been out to shag us one way or another forever.
        
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      <![CDATA[From Powell Clayton to Huck, when Republicans occupied Ark had improvements. <br>
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It took a wealthy New Yorker moving here to jump start the Grand old Party in the 1960s from whence it's present day rebirth happened. He raised taxes to improve Ark Highways and roads. He put an end to prison slave labor for hire and routine torture to keep them in line. He secured passage of Ark's minimum wage law.  "Ernie Dumas described Rockefeller as the “most liberal governor in Arkansas history” in light of his attempts to increase taxes to augment the size and scope of state government as well as steadfast support for civil rights and opposition to capital punishment." wikipedia.  He attempted to introduce job and technical training for prison inmates. He put an end to illegal gambling in Hot Springs. <br>
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Frank White: well, what can you say? He signed a Creation Science bil into law and raised the truck weight limit on Ark highways. No tax increases. No programs. <br>
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Huck comes along and improves our Game, Fish and Wildlife with a new tax. He helps Hillary get ArKids going, a great insurance program even though it's clearly socialism at work. He tries permanent indebtedness for consistent highway improvement but is voted down by Democrats. He introduced pardons and commutations as a way to handle prison reforms for violent offenders.  He allowed the bill to  pass which established "games of skill" at the W.Memphis dog track and at Oaklawn park in Hot Springs. <br>
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In 2010 it took two super wealthy brothers from Kansas to kick Ark Republicans into high gear. They did it via remote control. No appearances needed. No new taxes. No new programs.
        
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      <![CDATA[I will add many past Republicans of our age would not be welcome in the modern Republican Party. D.D. Eisenhower, for example.  To wit:<br>
4 May 1960<br>
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IKE ASKS CONGRESS FOR A NEW MEDICAL PLAN<br>
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Washington, May 4, (UPI)--The Eisenhower administration asked Congress today to enact a new $1,200,000,000 program of federal state subsidy to help persons over 65 meet the cost of major illnesses. It would cost the individual $24 a year.<br>
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...the proposal would pay a major share of 180 days of hospitalization, 365 days of nursing home care, certain medical and dental services. It would also cover up to $350 worth of prescribed drugs.<br>
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(The Act passed a few months later and President Eisenhower signed the legislation. The forerunner of Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare?)<br>
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Richard Nixon established the E.P.A. and SSI.  The list could be long.
        
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      <![CDATA[It's important to note Powell Clayton and the Republicans established the public school system in Arkansas.  As with other southern states, only private schools existed for children of the planter class and others.  Over 50 % of the CSA recruits had sign their names with an X.  The ruling classes in the South wanted no educated masses. They controlled the press, the pulpits, the media, the economy and education.  Few libraries existed in the South for obvious reasons and the poor white trash, which was the bulk of the southern population, knew their place and did what they were told to do. Thank you, post Civil War Republicans.
        
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