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      <![CDATA[1. Right-to-work laws are about *choice.* People can still join unions, just like before.<br>
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2. I haven't read any of the legislation, but from what I have read, all of the free-riding accusations are crap, because the unions *can* negotiate union-only contracts that will not benefit non-union members. <br>
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3. Even if the right-to-work laws have their roots in a segregationist movement, THAT IS IRRELEVANT. It's a red herring used to side-track the issue. <br>
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To make a comparison, Hitler lead the world's first anti-smoking campaign in nazi Germany. Does that mean everyone who opposes tobacco companies or wants people to quit smoking is therefore a neo-nazi? Of course not.<br>
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Shame on everyone who is participating in this b.s. campaign to paint right-to-work supporters as racists.
        
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      <![CDATA[Sadly, many. if not most of the low-wage workers in those green colored states have bought the Republican bullshit that they are better off than workers in the unionized states.   Sometimes you can't save people from their own ignorance.  Jim Walton and the Koch brothers and all the other moguls of the world, along with their bought and paid-for Congressmen and Senators, know that, and they exploit it.  The time for labor uprisings in this country is long overdue, but I doubt if you see any.  The National Labor Relations Board acts to stiffle them.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[couldn't be better]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[It will be interesting to see how far the standard of living FALLS in Michigan and Indiana since these were pro-union states. Right now, most of the union states have standards of living and educational systems far superior to the RTWfl states (the world is nolt 6000 years old, etc). <br>
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Don't be surprised Walmart workers, who already lost the pay supplement to work on Sunday, to find yourself working for regular pay on Christmas Day.  There is always December 26th for that turkey, anyway. I assume that time and 1/2 will go next and then we will be only different from China in the length of the workday (that is next) and then pay, i.e., Right to Work For Less.  Professionals are already doing it with their electronic leash to the office and having to check mail and reply all week-end long.  My son had Friday as a vacation day so he only had one meeting and worked only 4 hours.  His only real vacation was when, in Destin, he dropped his phone into a soda cooler.  But even there he flew out to a meeting for a day and then flew back.<br>
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Ever wonder why Europeans have such long vacations?- The figure that it takes one week to get your head out of the problems you left at work and the last week you are already running through what you have to do when you get back so the only real "vacation" you get is a week or two in the middle. They certainly are smarter in that regard than we are but then again, most wouldn't change their standard of living or medical care for anything offered in the US. Go USA!  #37
        
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      <![CDATA[Do unions have racist roots?<br>
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"From now on, white women and white men will be forced into organizations with black African apes whom they will have to call ‘brother’ or lose their jobs."---Vance Muse<br>
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"Eleanor Clubs stood for "$15 a week salary for all nigger house help, Sundays off, no washing, and no cleaning upstairs." As an afterthought, she added, "My nigger maid wouldn’t dare sit down in the same room with me unless she sat on the floor at my feet!"---Ida Darden, Vance Muse's sister.<br>
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"Among Vance Muse’s "reactionary enterprises": He lobbied against women’s suffrage, against the child-labor amendment, against the 8-hour workday..."<br>
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"Incidentally, Vance Muse’s northern donors — DuPont, Pew, Sloan — were the same core investors in (and board directors of) the first modern libertarian think-tanks of the 40s and 50s, including the Foundation for Economic Education. DuPont, Pew and Sloan funds also seeded the American careers of Ludwig von Mises, Friedrich von Hayek, Milton Friedman and Murray Rothbard, among others. In other words, Vance Muse’s funders built the first layer of the libertarian nomenklatura that Charles Koch later took control of — no surprise, since Koch outfits are credited with making the Michigan "right to work" law possible."<br>
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All of the above are from the following link.<br>
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<a href="http://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/right-to-work" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/right-to-&hellip;</a><br>
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And Gyl, don't come back with stories about how unions often black-balled any black members. I am well aware of those histories.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Gylippus]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Will there be a discussion of the racist roots of unions later today?<br>
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It will be interesting to see how many Michigan workers decide the services their union provides are not worth the dues.
        
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      <![CDATA[***As Kennedy described, these causes included opposing women's suffrage, child labor laws, integration and growing efforts to change the Southern political order, as represented in the threat of Roosevelt's New Deal.****<br>
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This correctly suggests far more than racism. And while I would agree racism is a significant tertiary in the right to work root system. The entire plant/cause is about class warfare.<br>
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Krishnamurti quote: " exploitation is the essence of violence. "
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Mean Gene]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[If we weren't a "Right to Work" state, I'd have one hell of a story for you Max.  I'm sure a lot of us would.
        
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      <![CDATA[Faux News "contributor", Steven Crowder has been making the rounds of wingnut media with a video he claims shows he was attacked by a union activist in Michigan. Crowder obviously studied at the Breitbart/O'Keefe school of video editing. <br>
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Earlier in the week I posted a link to a man claiming he saw operatives from Americans for Progress knocking their own tent down. AFP claimed it was union thugs who did it.<br>
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"The unedited footage shows “the man who punched Mr. Crowder being knocked to the ground seconds before and then getting up and taking a swing at the comedian,” the Times reported."<br>
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<a href="http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/12/steven-crowder-no-charges.php?ref=fpnewsfeed" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/12&hellip;</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[It should be noted that Vance Muse had two important organizational allies in its fight for Arkansas's "Right-to-Work" Law: <br>
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1) Arkansas Farm Bureau:  The Farm Bureau worked hand-in-glove with Muse to secure passage of both the state's 1943 Anti-Labor Violence Law (also the brainchild of Muse) and the Right to Work Amendment. The pages of its monthly newspaper in the early 1940s are filled with articles and speeches attacking the labor movement, especially the CIO which included some of the remnants of the STFU.  <br>
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2) Arkansas Free Enterprise Association:  A group of planters and businessmen who profited from Jim Crow, Led by John L. Dagett of Marianna, the AFEA was instrumental in passage of Right to Work in 1944.  Later it would take the lead in the state's Dixiecrat movement.  One of the AFEA's principals, Amis Guthridge, would later stir of much of the nastiness surrounding the integration of schools in Hoxie, Little Rock, and Dollarway.<br>
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To be sure, Vance Muse played an instrumental role in reactionary politics in 1940s Arkansas, but he had local allies in the passage of laws intended to keep poor blacks and poor whites poor.
        
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      <![CDATA[Here's a link to a longer, more detailed history of Vance Muse that I posted on the 13th. Lots of people died at the hands of union busting thugs. <br>
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<a href="http://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/right-to-work" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/right-to-&hellip;</a><br>
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And I don't know how a human rights activist like Kennedy stayed under my radar all these years. He recently died in 2011. In the forties, Kennedy published "Southern Exposure" after infiltrating the Klan.<br>
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stetson_Kennedy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stetson_Kenne&hellip;</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[Good post.  So how do people fall for the fallacy that Righ to work (for less) is good policy?
        
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      <![CDATA[The good news is that angry white racists (they're not all old) are a dying breed.
        
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      <![CDATA[Enduring Rhetoric and Ritual of the lost cause Legacy by W.Stuart Towns Subj: Narrative King's Holiday I read in your book Enduring Rhetoric and ritual of the lost cause - Conclusion: all of this is a part of history and should be understood by all of us shared and protected I agree but will Southern States truly understand black feeling when General Lee fought to enslaved blacks and one fought for racial equality on the same day we honored both BIRTHDAYS FOR BOTH MEN- not just Arkansas you know it took 15 years to create a king's holiday Jan 15 but states wouldn't allowed 2 days off work confederate day and king day so they iconic voted to place King's birthday on confederate memorial day Arkansas-Alabama Mississippi Georgia and Virginia Mrs Coretta Scott King said this is not a black holiday: it is a people's holiday sign into law Nov. 2 1983. for all the people all the time Memorial of those slaves during antebellum period of the old south. I under stand the lost cause enduring legacy division will stir more oratory on how do we as a people accept history with much debate when some town do not celebrate king birthday in Arkansas . I do not think, the oratory will ever bring back life to the lost cause until the Acceptance of Martin Luther King' Birthday EVEN IF he IS HONORED ON ARKANSAS CONFEDERATE MEMORIAL DAY BOTH IN SEPARATE WAY's MLK Representing racial equality Regardless color or creed. confederate memorial day included...if this is what the oratory speaks then we are attesting tolerance to confederate memorial day for both men if we are willing to share and understand this narrative. No! Mention Of Martin Luther King Holiday Acceptance. No speeches oratory at these events honoring MLK Rudolph Frazier North Little Rock, Arkansas 72116
        
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