http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2012/12/20/denny-altes-will-be-back-with-bible-bill Comments On: Denny Altes will be back with Bible bill by Max Brantley en-us Copyright 2013 Arkansas Times. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, Arkansas Times readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact Arkansas Times. robert@arktimes.com (Arkansas Times Webmaster) Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:01 -0500 Wed, 22 May 2013 14:30:00 -0500 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by plainjim]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:34:57 -0600 Arkansas Times
"Orleans Parish School Board Bans Creationism And Texan ‘New History’ Textbooks"

In a state as red as Louisiana, finding sanity among elected officials is like finding unfried food in the Bayou. Recently, Governor Bobby Jindal had made news due to his voucher program which will, legally, funnel millions of tax payer dollars to schools that teach Creationism and similar gibberish like the Loch Ness Monster is real (no, seriously, they do).
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"Earlier tonight, the Orleans Parish School Board voted to amend the way they select their textbooks in the district. Previously, the Superintendent had the final say in “all textbooks and supplementary instructional” that would be used, with optional input from teachers and administrators.

Tonight, the board decided to add a new caveat to that policy:

“No history textbook shall be approved which has been adjusted in accordance with the State of Texas revisionist guidelines nor shall any science textbook be approved which presents creationism or intelligent design as science or scientific theories.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/12/19/or…
Posted by eLwood]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:06:46 -0600 Arkansas Times
As what? It sucks at astronomy. I don't think it is so good in any of the sciences, especially biology and geology.

As philosphy? Do we teach that?

As history? Well not as a source of facts for history, maybe as a historically significant book, but there are lots of those

As literature? Now that's a concept. But which version? The beautful King James (which was written with how it sounded when read aloud in mind) Or one of the random modernized versions?

Seems like you'd have to speciify. I mean Reader's Digests' David Copperfield isn't the same as the original. Or would you just go to one of the modern sanitiz?d versions, leave out the parts about David having the wife of another man or the parts about beating baby's skulls against the rock.

I think every course should start with an explanation of "allegory"

If I was Altes, I'd want my kids to learn about the Bible in their church, where you can control the interpretation.
Posted by mudturtle]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:36:14 -0600 Arkansas Times

“If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him.”
Voltaire
Posted by Zatharus]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:13:24 -0600 Arkansas Times http://csl.sog.unc.edu/node/1301

The defendants argued that the purpose of the classes was secular, and the court agreed that there was a genuine issue of fact on this question. However, because the primary effect of the Bible classes, which were predominately religious and devotional, was to advance Christianity, the school system had to stop offering them. The court also said that, in its view, "if an evidently religious study course is taught on school grounds during regular school hours, the school is excessively entangled in it regardless of who teaches such classes."

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Good luck with that.....................
Posted by Vanessa]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:57:18 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by Norma Bates]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:47:10 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by IrradiatedFuelHandler]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:05:34 -0600 Arkansas Times
But the saviour of failing religions will be those same teachers???
That one could test anyone's faith.

Americans have become takers and must take responsibility for their own affairs, be self reliant and not look to gov't and tax payers to solve all their problems.

But gov't should take over religious training that parents and their churches are obviously failing at????

The latest glaring lack of understanding about American Constitutional rights here in Arkansas are:

1) Paragould police CHIEF believing cops can stop and JAIL anyone not proving their identity. (not some goofy new police cadet but the freaking CHIEF!)

2) Denny Altes (elected represntative of the gov't) thinking REQUIRING PUBLIC schools to develope a course and force teach it is somehow not an establishment.

What is Denny's definition of establishment?

Like Outlier, I am out of here, I am going off the grid for a couple days. Hope the Mayan grid is still around when I get back!

Travel safe everyone!
Posted by Citizen1]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:46:09 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by CenArkObserver]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:44:19 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by Norma Bates]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:33:54 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by Jack]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:25:37 -0600 Arkansas Times
"It was good enough for Moses, it's good enough for me."
Posted by pollen]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:17:51 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by evil monkey sez]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:13:08 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by Dobert]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:00:22 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by springdale_liberal]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:49:59 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by Quid pro quo]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:49:35 -0600 Arkansas Times
How about making it a course on comparative religion (Christianity doesn't always lookl to good when compared to some of the Eastern religions that actually "walk" what Jesus "talked". And, of course, you can go back to the original languages that portions were actually written in and see how translations make a difference and then again, they could discuss the committee approach and how disagreememnts were settled in the writing of the King James version.

Don't be surprised if you have your kids asking intelligent questions in your church though because once you take an intelligent approach, the old emotional approach of several of the local "Christian" sects are in trouble.
Posted by couldn't be better]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 07:33:47 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by TuckerMax]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2012 06:54:11 -0600 Arkansas Times