http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/02/tim-griffin-rick-crawford-oppose-tax-increase-for-wealthy Comments On: Tim Griffin, Rick Crawford oppose tax increase for wealthy by Max Brantley en-us Copyright 2013 Arkansas Times. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, Arkansas Times readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact Arkansas Times. robert@arktimes.com (Arkansas Times Webmaster) Sun, 26 May 2013 00:00:01 -0500 Sun, 26 May 2013 03:45:00 -0500 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss
Assuming you believe the Founders intended for one generation to tax and spend away the future of the next generation or to destroy the greatest nation in history just so you and I can fatten at the expense of our kids, I would say that you and I are profoundly locked in a disagreement which will be extremely difficult to negotiate ...

The solution will most likely come in a series of elections in which the electorate will chose either the easy path of tax-spend and borrow at the expense of our kids..or..fiscal discipline based in the examples of our heritage...

Sadly, at the moment, the momentum is with your view..spend and borrow at the expense of our children.
Posted by Patrick DeMent]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 16:20:32 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by Verla Sweere]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 16:07:03 -0600 Arkansas Times
"You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don't matter. We won the mid-term elections, this is our due."
--VP Dick Cheney, 2003

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/main592330.shtml
Posted by eLwood]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:01:05 -0600 Arkansas Times
I'm not going to argue with the First "constitutionalists"...Of course, I wouldn't deny that prerogative to ozarkrazo...
Posted by Patrick DeMent]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:42:20 -0600 Arkansas Times > Social Security is going bankrupt. That is a fact. DO YOU WANT TO DO NOTHING AND LET IT GO BANKRUPT?

I would like to see you prove that assertion, which you can't. An opinion piece from a rightwing source is not "evidence."

Also, the rules of decency and honesty require that you NOT use a Congressional report that is skewed by a formula designed by Eric Cantor or Paul Ryan wherein they tell the Budget folks to make one variable a constant and then calculate the outcome of Soc Security based upon an undisclosed formula change. Tsk, tsk. None of that foolishness without full disclosure.

Also, don't be confusing the present value of a future stream of payments with how many funds the S.S. Trust fund will actually hold at a future date.
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Posted by eLwood]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:41:39 -0600 Arkansas Times
And what about the power of coinage? Wasn't it placed in the hands of the House?

Note to ES: One of the first things my Fed Taxation proff taught us was that the U.S. tax code is just a huge behavior modification program.
Posted by eLwood]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:27:23 -0600 Arkansas Times
The 112th Congress (with its 38-vote "elected" majority) having finished its work (poorly)...and now, the 113th Congress with its "ELECTED" 33-vote Republican majority will assume the "POWER OF THE PURSE" tomorrow...unlike in President Obama's first term when he controlled both houses of the Congress..

In this link, I would urge you to pay close attention to Article 1..Section 8 (Power of The Purse)..Thankfully, the Founders placed this duty in the House of Representatives, not the Executive Branch nor the Senate..

Yes...we had an election...and a 33-vote Republican majority was returned to the House..Glad you noticed..I think...

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
Posted by Patrick DeMent]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:04:21 -0600 Arkansas Times Max, U may have missed the possible about of money saved by Mr. Stephens and I will highlight later in a Table of Content summary of HR 8 just passed last night. Here go and will hope all read and come to their own conclusion. I do not think this was about our personal income tax!! You can look at it all yourself at the link below.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr8e…

Title I General Extensions 4 sections
Title II Individual Tax Ext. 9 sections
Title III BUSINESS TAX Ext. 31 sections
Notes Section 306 Extension of railroad track maintenance credit, is that $ for $
Section 324 Stephens may not have paid any capital gain tax???
Title IV Extension of Energy Tax Credits 12 Sections
Title V Unemployment 4 sections
Title VI Medicare and other Health Extensions 28 sections
Title VII Extension of Agricultural Programs 2 sections
Title VIII Miscellaneous Provisions 2 sections
Title IX Budget Provisions 2 sections

May be the best of it all, finial paragraph of the Bill.
Subtitle B—Budgetary Effects
7 SEC. 911. BUDGETARY EFFECTS.
8 (a) PAYGO SCORECARD.—The budgetary effects of
9 this Act shall not be entered on either PAYGO scorecard
10 maintained pursuant to section 4(d) of the Statutory Pay-
11 As-You-Go Act of 2010.
12 (b) SENATE PAYGO SCORECARD.—The budgetary ef-
13 fects of this Act shall not be entered on any PAYGO score-
14 card maintained for purposes of section 201 of S. Con. Res.
15 21 (110th Congress).


Hope u all read and enjoy. News we see is not what it is about. Hell, Kock brother may be wanting a tax credit to maintain the pipeline rights of way.
Enjoy
Posted by Retired]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:59:16 -0600 Arkansas Times
We live under a constitution which was never allowed a democratic vote by the people. We live under "leadership" such as the president which certainly garnered nothing close the 50 percent plus one vote of the electorate. Just those who showed up. Allow a none of the above vote/start over, and a multi-party proportional representation system, abolishing the US Senate, and establishing a non auction electoral system and we might begin to be able to call what we have a democracy.
Posted by Eureka Springs]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:56:06 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by ozarkrazo]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:30:46 -0600 Arkansas Times
Of course, the poor receive help from the rest of us, and that is a good and necessary thing..but the middle class has no place to hide..We pay to the business who is forced to collect the new tax in the form of higher prices which they must pass to Max's duplicitous pals in the government..Then, they waste it on more spending to buy votes to keep themselves in power...

Fortunately, Rick Crawford and Tim Griffin have decided to exercise leadership at a time when Congress is NOT abundantly blessed with it..and when our country desperately needs a grand dose of it...

These men are not extremists...we need more men and women like them in the Congress..
Posted by Patrick DeMent]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:10:32 -0600 Arkansas Times
Besides, even the most stable middle-class families carry some debt, right? House mortgage, loan on a car, maybe some education loans, credit cards, etc.

The only time the Teathughlicans scream about the debt is when the Democrats are in office.

Besides, it WAS Dick Cheney who said deficts didn't matter. Try again.
Posted by wannabee conservative]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:07:48 -0600 Arkansas Times
And all that's assuming we managed to achieve independence from Great Britain.

Tying the supply of money to the amount of a metal you can dig out of the ground is the dumbest idea ever. Why not tie it to the number of stars you can count, or the number of children born, or the number of miles in the US interstate highway system?
Posted by I_AM_THE_NRA]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:00:53 -0600 Arkansas Times
There are a lot of FUBAR ways the gov't runs the money system.... for the rich banksters. But you are playing their game for them by asking us all to live a lie, like paupers, under a strict gold standard. We don't, and we shouldn't, imo.

You want to save money? Great, me too! Nationalize banks. Establish health care as a human right with medicare for all and cut defense 90 percent, which would still keep our defense budget (with a massive arsenal at hand) more than Russia and China combined.
Posted by Eureka Springs]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:52:53 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by Jason Palermo]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:36:33 -0600 Arkansas Times
Privitization will most certainly usher the fund into more trouble, not less (see what's happened to private pensions for decades running). Needless and exorbitant fees alone make privitization ridiculous. The last thing this country should do is put any trust, any monies in the very hands of the fire sector which just about blew up the world finance system with ponzi schemes, cds, cdo's, derivatives and the like. Those criminals should be bankrupt and in jail.
Posted by Eureka Springs]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:23:07 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by springdale_liberal]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:11:35 -0600 Arkansas Times
Did you know that the fiscal cliff budget cuts were only going to take 10% out of the military. We could go much deeper. Now lets to turn to subjects where we differ. Social Security is going bankrupt. That is a fact. DO YOU WANT TO DO NOTHING AND LET IT GO BANKRUPT? How do you give hope to those entering the workforce now? They are giving 13% of their income for what? It will be bankrupt once they retire. IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN DENY THAT FACT?

30 other countries have allowed at least part of the income to be privatized!!!! This has been met with great excitement in those countries and that is what we need to do too.

Now concerning the fiscal cliff. I personally contacted over 40 congressman and it seems that everyone of them voted against this latest deal. 41 dollars in tax increases to every one dollar in budget cuts is not what we needed.
http://thedailyhatch.org/2013/01/02/the-66…
Posted by SalineRepublican]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 08:34:29 -0600 Arkansas Times
And quit making every thing a "cliff". They had 18 months to do something and yet the House spent more time away from Washington (maybe a good thing based on the moral policemen they were when there) then working for the American people. Why does the House seem to spend all theeir time working AGAINST the bulk of the American people?
Posted by couldn't be better]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 08:16:53 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by the outlier]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 08:06:11 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by TX-Travler]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 07:45:25 -0600 Arkansas Times
During the month of December I contacted our three Republican Congressman and our one Republican Senator several times concerning this fiscal cliff deal that was coming down the pike and the debt ceiling debate. At least two of them stepped up and voted against this deal.
http://thedailyhatch.org/2013/01/02/missio…
Posted by SalineRepublican]]> Wed, 02 Jan 2013 07:16:38 -0600 Arkansas Times