<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>








































































  <rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom">
    <channel>
      <title>Comments On: Another path on election reform
    
      by Max Brantley</title>
      <link>http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform</link>
      <atom:link href="http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/Rss.xml?oid=2604418&amp;id=comments" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />      <description>Comments On: Another path on election reform
    
      by Max Brantley</description>
      <language>en-us</language>
      <copyright>Copyright 2013 Arkansas Times. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, Arkansas Times readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact Arkansas Times.</copyright>
      <webMaster>robert@arktimes.com (Arkansas Times Webmaster)</webMaster>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 00:00:01 -0500</pubDate>
      <lastBuildDate>Wed, 22 May 2013 10:15:00 -0500</lastBuildDate>
      <generator>Foundation</generator>
      <docs>http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss</docs>
      
        
          <item>
    
    <title><![CDATA[Re: Another path on election reform]]></title>

    
    <link><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2607673]]></link>

    <guid isPermaLink="true"><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2607673]]></guid>
    <author><![CDATA[Razorblade]]></author>
    <description>
      
      <![CDATA[Still waiting.  How will requiring voter ID depress the turnout of segments of the population that generally favor Democratic candidates.
        
        <br />
        Posted by 
        
          <a href="http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/Profile?oid=1642841">Razorblade</a>]]>
    </description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:11:16 -0600</pubDate>
    <source url="http://www.arktimes.com">Arkansas Times</source>
  </item>
        
          <item>
    
    <title><![CDATA[Re: Another path on election reform]]></title>

    
    <link><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2606226]]></link>

    <guid isPermaLink="true"><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2606226]]></guid>
    <author><![CDATA[Razorblade]]></author>
    <description>
      
      <![CDATA[Ummmm Sound Policy, you are comparing apples to oranges and not answering the question. That is because Arkansas voters are already required to be asked for identification (ID) each and every time they want to vote. Any of six forms of ID are acceptable with some taking much longer than others to examine and verify.  The voter can decline to show ID (except the first time they vote) and the poll worker then asks them three questions (name, date of birth and address), verifies the data, then annotates the poll book "No ID" before the voter signs it.  Add another minute or two for the "why do I have to show ID" tirade from (about) every 15th voter (who apparently has been living under a rock for the past several elections) and poll worker's answer to the ticking clock.  Compare that to a voter handing over their photo ID, being quickly verified, signing the book, and moving on to the voting machine or ballot. While this deflates your contention of requiring photo ID "slowing down the election process," that was not the question.  The question is how does requiring photo ID "surpress voting?"  Every posting by Max and articles parrot the same Democratic Party theme, "photo ID will surpress those more likely to vote for a Democratic candidate." Nothing is said about slowing down every voter at a polling place.  <br>
Dictionary's associate terms such as, curtail, prohibit, exclude, inhibit, reduce, overpower, restrain, withhold, hinder, and stop, as being the result of "surpress."  So all knowing sage, once again, tell us how is requiring photo ID is going to 'SURPRESS" (not slow down) a segment of Arkansas voters since your post clearly demonstrates you don't have a clue about actual Election Day activity at a polling site.  <br>
Sigh, I hate it when a superior being brings a knife to a gun fight.
        
        <br />
        Posted by 
        
          <a href="http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/Profile?oid=1642841">Razorblade</a>]]>
    </description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 11:44:27 -0600</pubDate>
    <source url="http://www.arktimes.com">Arkansas Times</source>
  </item>
        
          <item>
    
    <title><![CDATA[Re: Another path on election reform]]></title>

    
    <link><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2605784]]></link>

    <guid isPermaLink="true"><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2605784]]></guid>
    <author><![CDATA[Sound Policy]]></author>
    <description>
      
      <![CDATA[(NotSoSharp)Razor, I've explained this issue to you several times before that requiring voters to provide ID slows down the election process in busy polling places and won't prevent any voter fraud because even the legislative sponsor Bryan King couldn't cite a single example- not one!- of voter impersonation fraud this proposed legislation would have prevented.  Every voter is required to show proper ID before they vote for the very first time in their lives, but not every time.  What do you want, a lip tattoo, to ensure John Jones is still really the very same John Jones?<br>
<br>
I'm still waiting for this to sink into your dense skull!  Still waiting.  Damn, you're dense.
        
        <br />
        Posted by 
        
          <a href="http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/Profile?oid=1076411">Sound Policy</a>]]>
    </description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 22:58:32 -0600</pubDate>
    <source url="http://www.arktimes.com">Arkansas Times</source>
  </item>
        
          <item>
    
    <title><![CDATA[Re: Another path on election reform]]></title>

    
    <link><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2605542]]></link>

    <guid isPermaLink="true"><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2605542]]></guid>
    <author><![CDATA[Razorblade]]></author>
    <description>
      
      <![CDATA[Still waiting
        
        <br />
        Posted by 
        
          <a href="http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/Profile?oid=1642841">Razorblade</a>]]>
    </description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 18:26:20 -0600</pubDate>
    <source url="http://www.arktimes.com">Arkansas Times</source>
  </item>
        
          <item>
    
    <title><![CDATA[Re: Another path on election reform]]></title>

    
    <link><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2605265]]></link>

    <guid isPermaLink="true"><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2605265]]></guid>
    <author><![CDATA[Razorblade]]></author>
    <description>
      
      <![CDATA[Its a boring Friday so I visited the Arkansas Citizens First site to see what they are about.  Suffice to say with regards to their petition, this is a case of the well intended taking a shotgun approach to a problem they don't seem to be versed about.  Not to fret, I've reached out to get them on the right track.  For example, they say Arkansas needs better poll worker training.  That is incorrect, Arkansas needs more poll workers to be trained more frequently, the current procedures training is excellent.  The state board does procedures training and Secretary of State equipment training.  That too is good training when conducted by SOS or ES&S.  However, one of the problems is county-level equipment trainers are not required to be certified as are county-level procedures trainers.  Both the state board and SOS have made significant strides in both improving training and delivering it outside of Little Rock.  However, the law only requires one poll worker per polling place to be trained, then at least 12 months before a regular election, and that increases to two per site before a preferential primary.  However, a minimum of 4 poll workers are required at each site.  It comes down to the cost of brining in poll workers for training that has to be paid for by a county.  Poorer counties seem to be where problems crop up.  With regards to election monitors, we prepared and made avalable non-partisan instructions and training for poll watchers which made a difference this past election.  Instructions covered restrictions on activities, what to look for with regards to absentee ballots issued at the clerk's office and on Election Day.  TRAINED poll watchers are a great asset because they help poll workers stay in compliance by bringing infractions to the attention of a polling site judge, election monitors serve no purpose because they can only observe and report after-the-fact.   The state board dispatches election monitors upon receipe of an approved and bona-fide request.
        
        <br />
        Posted by 
        
          <a href="http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/Profile?oid=1642841">Razorblade</a>]]>
    </description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 16:04:22 -0600</pubDate>
    <source url="http://www.arktimes.com">Arkansas Times</source>
  </item>
        
          <item>
    
    <title><![CDATA[Re: Another path on election reform]]></title>

    
    <link><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2605213]]></link>

    <guid isPermaLink="true"><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2605213]]></guid>
    <author><![CDATA[Razorblade]]></author>
    <description>
      
      <![CDATA[Still waiting...
        
        <br />
        Posted by 
        
          <a href="http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/Profile?oid=1642841">Razorblade</a>]]>
    </description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 15:35:39 -0600</pubDate>
    <source url="http://www.arktimes.com">Arkansas Times</source>
  </item>
        
          <item>
    
    <title><![CDATA[Re: Another path on election reform]]></title>

    
    <link><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2604820]]></link>

    <guid isPermaLink="true"><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2604820]]></guid>
    <author><![CDATA[Razorblade]]></author>
    <description>
      
      <![CDATA[I am still waiting for someone to explain how requiring photo identification at polling sites on Election Day supresses voters.<br>
<br>
I agree with Citizen1, election fraud is a better choice of words, more encompassing.  As previously stated, absentee ballot fraud is the primary vehicle followed by those assisting "disabled" voters, followed by individual acts including lack of trained poll workers, or perhaps untrainable poll workers.  But there have been enough single and double diget decided local races in recent years to crack down on all types of election fraud.  Poll worker and voter training is a key aspect.  Some legislation to be introduced will also help with those "assisting" voters.  While swaying an obscure constable election in Rooster Poot is insignificant to Citizen 1, it is not insignificant to the losing candidate and all are entitled to a fair election regardless of the race.  That is the point many are missing but would not if they were the losing candidate.
        
        <br />
        Posted by 
        
          <a href="http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/Profile?oid=1642841">Razorblade</a>]]>
    </description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 13:06:39 -0600</pubDate>
    <source url="http://www.arktimes.com">Arkansas Times</source>
  </item>
        
          <item>
    
    <title><![CDATA[Re: Another path on election reform]]></title>

    
    <link><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2604509]]></link>

    <guid isPermaLink="true"><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2604509]]></guid>
    <author><![CDATA[Citizen1]]></author>
    <description>
      
      <![CDATA[Woo Hoo!!!<br>
<br>
I, Citizen1, do support Citizens First in their efforts to switch emphasis from voter ID fraud to election fraud.<br>
<br>
As my past rants state and the post states, only an absolute non-thinking idiot would think that the threat of fraudulent votes could come from fraud the ID checking would solve.<br>
<br>
One must fraudulently register to vote months in advance and THEN go to various polls and vote in order to cast fraudulent votes.<br>
<br>
The most industrious perp could hardly visit 10 polls in a day.  Can't revote in the same polling place and not be noticed.  My poll workers remember me from election to election.<br>
<br>
10 fake votes would hardly sway an obscure constible election in Rooster Poot, AR.<br>
<br>
Election OFFICIAL fraud is the main threat to a scam to actually alter and outcome.<br>
<br>
Sure there are a minute amount of races every couple years where the votes totals decided in single digits, but statistically insignificant.
        
        <br />
        Posted by 
        
          <a href="http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/Profile?oid=1068519">Citizen1</a>]]>
    </description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 10:44:05 -0600</pubDate>
    <source url="http://www.arktimes.com">Arkansas Times</source>
  </item>
        
          <item>
    
    <title><![CDATA[Re: Another path on election reform]]></title>

    
    <link><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2604444]]></link>

    <guid isPermaLink="true"><![CDATA[http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/04/another-path-on-election-reform/#2604444]]></guid>
    <author><![CDATA[Eureka Springs]]></author>
    <description>
      
      <![CDATA[If there is no problem, then why add more levels of bureaucracy and cost to a system which Citizens First says IS working? Last election there must have been 30 to 40 employees at our polling station. When I declined a request to present my DL, there was a lot of blank stares, but there were also several very well informed/well trained people able to handle the situation professionally.<br>
<br>
There are different titles for it... but it's common practice that one person be trained a bit more and take the lead as "election inspector" at the polling station. And of course she/he may call the office if a difficult question arises. In my experience working polls in several states this works very, very well.
        
        <br />
        Posted by 
        
          <a href="http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/Profile?oid=1089135">Eureka Springs</a>]]>
    </description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 09:58:17 -0600</pubDate>
    <source url="http://www.arktimes.com">Arkansas Times</source>
  </item>
        
      
    </channel>
  </rss>



