http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/01/15/the-new-political-fight-over-guns Comments On: The new political fight over guns by Max Brantley en-us Copyright 2013 Arkansas Times. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, Arkansas Times readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact Arkansas Times. robert@arktimes.com (Arkansas Times Webmaster) Thu, 23 May 2013 00:00:01 -0500 Thu, 23 May 2013 18:30:00 -0500 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by Doc]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:07:36 -0600 Arkansas Times
Yeah Steven E the latest were at Sandy Hook elementary school in Connecticut & then you can throw in a couple firefighters.
Posted by Hackett]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:53:41 -0600 Arkansas Times
Wait, it isn't. Just for you, bubbie, shotguns are good for quail, ARs are good for prairie dogs at 500 yards, and deer out to 300 yards. Moose will laugh at you if you shoot them with an AR, then the moose will tap dance on your head till your mulch.

50mm sawed off would be good for that pesky pterodactyl. Might want to get one for such an occasion.
Posted by Steven E]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 22:23:16 -0600 Arkansas Times
E.S., you've been dippin' into the Phillip K. Dick novels again, haven't you? Just calm down. If you'll take a peek just 3-4 pages in from the front cover, you'll see the word "fiction". That basically means it ain't so. Just tryin' to help.
Posted by Olphart]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:47:48 -0600 Arkansas Times
I know what you mean, Steven E, I've shot many a quail with my sawed-off 50MM. The trick is you have to just hit'em right on the tip of the beak which takes their head off right at the shoulder leavin' all the good meat intact.
Posted by Olphart]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:32:52 -0600 Arkansas Times
eLwood, I see what you're trying to do here and it's unethical.

Saline has already praised Bill Clinton today and now you're trying to bait him into criticizing Ronald Reagan. If that were to happen, the whole space/time continuum, whatever that is, would be disrupted. Saline could vibrate himself to pieces and take us all with him.

DON'T FALL FOR IT SALINE!!!!

You can do it tomorrow...
Posted by Olphart]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:25:25 -0600 Arkansas Times ...
"Then, in 1991, four years after the controversial Brady Bill was introduced in Congress and with passage again in doubt, Reagan penned an op-ed in The New York Times titled "Why I'm for the Brady Bill." In it, he expressed support for a seven-day waiting period before a purchaser could take possession of a handgun, an even more stringent restriction than the five day cooling-off period that was included in the final legislation, and less stringent than the 15-day cooling-off period he signed into law as governor of California. Reagan stated that prohibitions on sales to felons, drug addicts and the mentally ill had "no enforcement mechanism" and that "a uniform standard across the country" was necessary.

Regarding handguns, Reagan stated, "This level of violence must be stopped … If the passage of the Brady bill were to result in a reduction of only 10 or 15 percent of those numbers (and it could be a good deal greater), it would be well worth making it the law of the land."

Finally, in 1994, Reagan successfully threw his support behind the Assault Weapons Ban in a joint letter to the Boston Globe, saying, "As a longtime gun owner and supporter of the right to bear arms … I am convinced that the limitations imposed in this bill are absolutely necessary."
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http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/hc-op-…
Posted by eLwood]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:16:51 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by Sound Policy]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:39:55 -0600 Arkansas Times
Bless your heart.

Then there is DBI, the perpetual victim, who desires the rest of us to become victims. Never mind that your hypebole regarding our supposed militray grade' weapons is so far off the mark. At least he doesn't march into the vapid bombast of child's little rant that you cannot hunt with an AR. Lot of good small game has been taken with an AR. So Child's idiotic statement of an AR sucking at hunting is pure stupidity, vomitted from the mouth of a creature that hasn't the first freaking clue about firearms. At least DBI can APPEAR rational.

Kind of like watching the difference between a raving maniac (Child), and a cold psychotic serial killer. Both are unhinged, but one hides the lunacy better. DBI is more like Klebold, who calmly walked the halls of his school, certain, like DBI, in his purpose. All are wrong, but that doesn't dent their fantasy life. Meanwhile others die, or suffer. They don't care.

DBI, bless your little heart.
Posted by Steven E]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:23:59 -0600 Arkansas Times
For my safety, my children's safety, the safety of my unborn future grandchildren and the same for everyone of you I don't want military grade weapons in the hands of citizens. If all I desire was put in force tomorrow it would take 20 years to see the effects, so starting today is very important. Hurry!

My kids shouldn't have to die for your hobby. If Mrs. Lanza had collected stamps instead of military grade weaponry we'd be talking about trashy TV today. Stamp collecting hasn't killed a living person since stamps were first invented. At least 4-wheelers only kill the people riding them poorly. Get a new hobby!

Unhook from Fox News & Hate Radio and your need for a bazooka will lessen. Yes, our President is black and our next one will probably be a woman but the black guy isn't coming for your regular guns and our first female President probably won't come after our porn. You can be sure that all Presidents will come after our tax money unless you're of the Lucky Sperm Club.

We gots no Mental Health Care unless you have millions to privately hospitalize your crazy brother. Crazy White Loners have us all in their gun sights and for that reason military grade weapons must be banned. If the next Crazy White Loner decides to go to a school armed with only regular weapons, it will take him all afternoon to kill 27 people with the guns I have in my house. It ain't perfect, but 1 dead is a whole lot better than everyone in the building. Let's hear it for 1 dead! Yay!

If Civil War 2 breaks out next month over guns, gun nuts will have the advantage over me because I only have regular guns. But wait till they see what the Federal Government brings to the fight. I don't really know what the word POOF sounds like but in the 3 day Civil War 2 we'll be hearing POOF a whole lot. Big bad patriots with big bad weapons will make big messy greasy spots when Droney sees you from way up in the safe safe sky.

Freedom is wonderful but we can no longer allow Freedom To Be Stupid with a Bushmaster. The gun lovers I knew in the 60s have morphed into fantasizing Terminators and so have their weapons. We can't live like this. The same can be said for profit loving US corporations using Free Trade to ship all our good jobs to other countries leaving us Free to Starve. We can't live like this either. America has to change now if you want your children to live happy, safe lives after you're gone. That's my hope and prayer if I prayed.

Keep your weapons and give up your super weapons. Stop ignoring crazy people getting crazier. Demand mental health care for all who need it. Demand universal background checks even for Wal-Mart shoppers who want to buy a shopping cart full of high powered ammo while they pick up some milk. Have some common sense and stop that LU-LU-LU-LU business when someone talks about gun safety! Let us have a more successful 21 century by dumping our bad 20th century ideas and prejudices that killed millions.
Posted by DeathbyInches]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:46:45 -0600 Arkansas Times All these semi-auto sporting rifles only cosmetically resemble the military firearm. Kinda like a woman looks good from afar, but you get closer and discover she was beat with an ugly stick.

Domestic tyranny.
Posted by clay pigeon]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:34:26 -0600 Arkansas Times
Those are just a teeny tiny bit harder to hide than a firearm.
Posted by Gylippus]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:23:38 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by springdale_liberal]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:19:47 -0600 Arkansas Times
Yeah, you're probably right since upon birth we automatically become a member of the militia in this country. I've yet to receive a paycheck from them. Maybe, it's because I haven't bought my assault rifle yet.
Posted by Olphart]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:02:32 -0600 Arkansas Times
Saying we can't register, track or restrict guns is like saying the same thing about motorcycles and autos.

Discharging a firearm is illegal in the city limits of Spdle. It's rigorously enforced unless you are in a licensed firing range.

The major short-coming of Brady bill-supported background checks was a very incomplete data base. It's been vastly improved since the Bb was passed.

Meanwhile I see our wingers are still peaceful and content with complete violations of the 4TH and 6TH Amendments.
Posted by eLwood]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:49:15 -0600 Arkansas Times
An effective one would have to ban semiautomatic rifles. It wouldn't pass, and if it did, it wouldn't survive it's first court challenge.
Posted by Gylippus]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:30:49 -0600 Arkansas Times
Saline: "What we need is yard signs put up in each yard telling which houses are fully armed and which houses are gun free."

Funny that the gun lobby responded with death threats to journalists when they published exactly what you are suggesting - a map of gun ownership.
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In Mississippi my two parents who are in their 70's both have gun permits to carry and the Memphis Commercial Appeal ran the names of everyone in the Memphis area that had gun permits.

I guess it was the Commercial Appeal's way of trying to intimidate gun owners. It didn't bother my parents any. They live out in the country and feel much safer with guns.
Posted by SalineRepublican]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:22:39 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by arkansasmediawatch]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:09:47 -0600 Arkansas Times
Do you support an effective law since the last was poorly written? Or just scrap the whole idea because the last was poorly written.
Posted by Citizen1]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:03:45 -0600 Arkansas Times
Funny that the gun lobby responded with death threats to journalists when they published exactly what you are suggesting - a map of gun ownership.
Posted by arkansasmediawatch]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:01:54 -0600 Arkansas Times http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/15/1…
Posted by springdale_liberal]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:20:10 -0600 Arkansas Times
All based on various applications of a Disposition Matrix (the universal database). A government which already imprisons more of their own brethren than anyone else in the world. We've known for decades the mental health is sorely lacking in this country... yet what we have done with this obvious "universally known" information is the very antithesis of improving things. When so-called liberals take the universally clear knowledge about our abuse of mental health and unapologetically demand universal care for all, which includes mental, dental, optical care rather than treat these things like bling options on a new car... perhaps they will have earned a tiny shred of credibility.

The last entity which should have any ability to universally check you is your Government, the largest most well armed war criminal/police state enterprise the world has ever known. Have you people lost your cotton-pickig minds? I've often said to Second Amendment advocates that they have perilously lost sight of the others amendments (such as 1st, 4th, 5th) and this call for even deeper background checks of many millions of entirely innocent people is a perfect example why. Our government should not only have the bare minimum of ability to know about us, it should be taking great strides to make sure other entities (such as corporations) cannot collect or maintain, much less sell our data as well. We are not far here from "liberals" suggesting we all have a tracking chip implanted at birth. That we are all guilty until impossibly proven innocent.

It's my understanding the CT shooter was denied when attempting to purchase a gun shortly before he lost it. Lots of people knew more than enough about the Giffords shooter mental state, yet nothing was done.... and so on. Plenty of information available.... to suggest what we are doing/not doing with available information now needs addressing.... not more draconian government measures. More tyranny never works out well.

More data on us is collected and stored than we know about our own selves. And if you look into it... it is to be used against you, not for you. From the Patriot Act and such which means you don't know, can't know, and even if you find out... can't tell your atty., or your atty. can't use it in court. Just looking at the way DOJ treated Arron Swartz says so much about the tyranny we live under.
Posted by Eureka Springs]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:06:56 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by Hackett]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:53:03 -0600 Arkansas Times
Note the evil features are mostly cosmetic.
Posted by Gylippus]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:47:58 -0600 Arkansas Times
What will happen is that the federal government will use yet another new law and apply it unequally, charging mainly blacks and hispanics while ignoring the whites that do it. If you want more laws to lock up black men whose only "crime" is being black, go ahead and pass this. Just like marijuana laws, gun laws are generally enforced only when poor people and minorities are involved.
Posted by ProCarry]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:46:58 -0600 Arkansas Times