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      <![CDATA[Correnti has been wooing states for a decade+. Correnti was former Nucor CEO and his resignation was announced in a brief statement years ago. He's been trying to compete with his old company ever since.<br>
Nucor's original deal and the updated incentives about 10 years ago keeps them in Miss. County. They got everything they needed to stay there and most likely there will be a new incentive deal for Nucor when the current one expires and there should be. Wonder if the Nucor incentive law (2001?) was changed to accommodate Correnti coming in? <br>
Ya'll need to talk somebody who knows how these incentives really work and what the cost-benefit really is. As far as car/truck manufacturers: Nissan is in Mississippi because they specified "east of the Mississippi River" in their location requirements. Toyota truck manufacturing's in Texas because the Texas truck buyer market there is enormous. Arkansas competes for these projects when it meets the specs for the location. <br>
In the meantime, why not support more start-ups and expansion of what's already in AR?<br>
Like Nucor has been for Mississippi County & AR, the Japanese company that owns Ark Steel in Newport has been a very good corporate partner and friend to Newport and AR.
        
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      <![CDATA[With the kind of pay they are promising, how many arkies will be hired, compared to better educated folks from other states?  When a Japaneese company took over a steel mill near Newport years ago they had ten applicants for every job.  Very few of the incumbents were hired.  I am not saying don't do the deal.  But make sure Arkie strings are attached.  Then think about educating our people for jobs of the future.
        
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      <![CDATA[So I guess Republicans are now asking themselves, what does this steel mill have to do with banning abortion, trans-vaginal ultrasounds, birth control, legitamate rape, Obama's birth certificate, or the second amedment?
        
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      <![CDATA[The only way Mississippi County is going to get a large industry is with government-provided economic incentives.  Sounds like a good deal to me.
        
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      <![CDATA[Atrios on the Eschaton blog has the best way to stimulate the economy. Give free money to every taxpayer excepting the big banks and corporations since they already got their's! ;>)
        
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      <![CDATA[ES--agreed that your ideas would be better, but Keynesian stimulus under current conditions will stimulate even if wasteful. Amendment 82 offers the only avenue to borrow and spend, which is what governments should seek to do under these conditions. Unfortunately, 82 means handouts to private companies, not public projects.
        
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      <![CDATA[“. . . Mississippi County, despite three existing steel mills that have located there since the 1980s, has a higher unemployment rate than the state . . . and has continued to lose population.”<br>
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Yep, Mis’sippy County is still losing population with fewer and fewer folks finding work on the fahms. And Blythevegas will never recover from the loss of Eaker Air Force Base 20 years ago. The town would be Lepanto-like were it not for the steel plant at nearby Armorel.<br>
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There are always doubts/questions (and that’s good) about a project like the proposed Big River plant at Osceola, but I have a pretty good feeling in my bones about it. Hopefully, it’ll make a big difference in the lives of people over there and twenty-years hence will prove to have been a great investment for the state.<br>
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That said, I’d hoped for a big auto manufacturing plant. Can’t help being green with envy every time I drive past the huge Nissan plant at Canton, Miss., just nawth of Jackson, where some 5,000 workers are turning out six or seven different models of vehicles every day. <br>
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Why can’t WE get into the bidness of making cars and trucks?
        
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      <![CDATA[If a raw deal for millions of taxpayers, yet guaranteed boon for a few rich is as good as it gets. Then "good" should be rejected.<br>
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180 million spent towards establishing affordable gigabit internet (buried fiber) to every home in the state would be far better than this all risk, no return (except for the rich) idea. 180 million worth of solar panels on south facing rooftops attached to a green grid would be better. There are plenty of urgent things we could do which would create jobs and provide taxpayers with much more certainty of long term dividends.
        
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      <![CDATA[Max raises good questions and we need more details but at first blush, given current interest rates and current unemployment levels, this seems like a smart play on Keynesian grounds. As I said, who knows if Carter and co. (or even Beebe, a federal deficit scold) will acknowledge that. Whether or not this is your first pick for public debt-backed spending in Arkansas, it's as good as we can get.
        
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      <![CDATA[Neoliberalism in it's purest looting form, S_L.  Wealthfare.
        
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      <![CDATA[Public risk, private profit. Kinda like capitalism, sorta. I guess.
        
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      <![CDATA[180,000,000 State bucks for 500 jobs is 360,000 per job or 18,000 per job per year over 20 years. That's a lot of food and beer sales taxes just to break even.<br>
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Much to consider, but the bond method of funding seems to be the exact opposite of how the State should consider conducting this type of business. Why are we the taxpayer expected to pay rich folk interest to take all the risk in hope of just breaking even decades from now? Slap a progressively scaled tax on us in order to raise the money quickly... make it sharp and quick... and buy premium stock which might provide a return instead of bonds which will only cost us.... which might make this sort of thing worthwhile.
        
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      <![CDATA[It's time to count the teeth in the gift horse's mouth, before we put ink to a contract. Corporate developers are not benevolent creatures.
        
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      <![CDATA[I'm getting more and more uneasy about this deal the more I hear of it.<br>
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Jrb makes a valid point about Correnti's similar attempts in other states.   Has anyone did any checking into what happened with those failed business deals?<br>
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I know that Correntii is a known associate of some of the larger Republican wheeler-dealers in El dorado and that, too, gives me pause.<br>
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I certainly hope that the General Assembly will do due diligence as it checks this deal out.  Right now, though, there is an odor beginning to leak from it.
        
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      <![CDATA[Seems to me one of those steel mills used to be in Conway.  When their TIF expired there, they moved to a new one.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.  My doubts about this deal are similar to those I have about the TECH Park.  Why can't we focus on improving public education and making people "want" to live here?<br>
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    <author><![CDATA[jrb]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I posted in yesterday's thread about some similar projects Correnti attempted in other states - Mississippi, Ohio and North Carolina - that never panned out. One even made it so far as having a "celebratory groundbreaking".<br>
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Seen little to no discussion on this. <br>
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I'm hoping for the best but in the back of my mind.................
        
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    <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:01:19 -0600</pubDate>
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