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      <![CDATA[Congress needs to allow the post office to close the majority of small offices. Post offices in towns of less than 2500 don't generate enough revenue to pay the electric bill much less than the building & personnel costs.<br>
The processing plants being closed instead of small offices as allowed by congress are where the delivery speed and the revenue are produced.<br>
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The closure of the Fort Smith processing center this week will cause the local mail of zip codes starting with 729 & 728 to go from overnight to probably four of five days.  The mail originating going elsewhere in the world will be delayed the same.<br>
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The retirement in the post office since 1984 has been the federal thrift savings plan which is the federal copy of a 401k. The post office matches up to a maximum of 5% of employee contributions ( now 3.5% of contributions). There is also social security & a small defined pension funded by 1% of yearly pay.
        
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      <![CDATA["The republican zeal for privitization is matched or surpassed by neoliberal Democrats."<br>
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Funny, I thought all liberals were socialists. Now, the "neoliberals" are privatizing rather than governmentizing.  What about neoconservatives, are they now the new liberals?  Your eternally shifting of categories is annoying.  At the very least, post a glossary of what you mean when you plunk down a label.  You'd, of course, be changing it every day because you seem to be making it up on the fly.  Good work, if you can get it.
        
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      <![CDATA[I can't really see a downside here, but it could, as in a very small possibility, lead to Monday-Wednesday-Friday only delivery within a few years in a further bid to cut costs. I do hope that those folks who will receive my car and utility payments a day or two later than they do now will be as understanding as I am about not having service on the weekend.
        
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      <![CDATA[local postmaster have not been political appointees since the '70's.
        
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      <![CDATA[Likely what screws the PO up the most is that all local postmasters are political appointees.  Sometimes you get good ones. So forget any benefits from so-called privatization.
        
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      <![CDATA[The problem, as usual is Congress.  They spin it off as a semi-private corporation but continue to put rules in place, deny it the freedom that a private corporation would have on pricing, staffing, offices, hours, fees, etc.  If the Post Offioce goes under, do you think FedEX or UPS will play with these small-minded dictators? I bet both of them would tell Congress to get some walking shoes and deliver the mail themselves. The rates will double or triple (US rates are the lowest for the service in the world).  <br>
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How about only mail avaialability in the county seat, no matter how large the county is?  Look at what is happening now-most FedEx and UPS are in the "last mile" program where rural FedEX and UPS packages that aren't paid for next day delivery is dropped off at the post office and delivered to each house by the post office since they DELIVER TO EVERY ADDRESS IN THE COUNTRY, no matter how isolated.  Make it private, and everyone in Kansas can drive to the 4 largest cities-its only time and miles!<br>
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Here in Faulkner County, only Conway has a post office that pays its own way.  Everyone else is a leech off the system.  Tell all the Tpers in Mayflower, Greenbrier, Vilonia, etc., that they will have to drive to Conway to the Salem street office to get their mail and see how they like "smaller" government!  At least their Social security checks are direct-deposited or put on a bank card!
        
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      <![CDATA["They need to consider alternative measures, such as capping the salaries of their top executives or eliminating bonuses"<br>
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I'm sure Pryor knows how much of a difference that would make - I found the figure of $276,000 for the postmaster general's salary. Nothing wrong with talking about whether that is too much, but to pretend that cutting there could solve the USPS budget crisis? Moronic. Unless Pryor is really suggesting pay cuts for all the employees, not just the top ones. In which case he would be blatantly dishonest.<br>
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      <![CDATA[I have no problem with it.  They need to renegotiate the pension/retirement plans as well or there will be no pension/retirement plans.  Cut the post offices in 1/3, cut back services to 3 days a week.
        
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      <![CDATA[The USPS is in this situation because the Postal Reform Act that made it a private operation in '72/73? said that the USPS would operate off of it's own revenue with no tax dollars used. The USPS was paid $24million a year for assets not transferred but out of an $80 billion budget that wasn't a big help. The act also set up an elaborate rate change process that required every class of mail (there are over 100 classes)  pay for itself. The Postal Rate Commission was established and in the modern era a whole new lobbying corp emerged around rate setting. It takes over a year for the USPS to change rates. Therefore they cannot respond quickly to things like gas prices. The USPS has one of the largest fleets in the country every cent the rates go up cost the USPS millions of dollars. The Act also allowed for binding arbitration with the labor unions that work at the USPS. There are four postal unions. If the USPS and a union cannot reach agreement on new contract it goes to arbitration and one man decides the largest expense of the USPS, the arbitrator. So the USPS cannot really set it revenue and cannot set it largest expense. THey managed to stay profitable controlling what they could. As long as mail volume, particularly first class, stayed high it worked out. In the '90s the internet began to rapidly to cut into first class mail. The USPS began to seriously work on new legislation that would give it more flexibility to manage itself, but it has not succeeded. The changes that were made were around the edges of the problem and therefore we are where we are today.
        
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" Although accounting rules require the postal service to calculate future liabilities, including those for projected future employees, the law only requires pre-funding of obligations to actual current and past employees. "
        
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      <![CDATA[The republican zeal for privitization is matched or surpassed by neoliberal Democrats. The rhetorical styles differ, but the results have long been ever rightward on this. And though I would learn to live with five days a week postal service... especially so postal employees could have a life two days a week... I think Monday should be on the chopping block, not Saturday. The rest of most American workers should have some time on their day off (Sat.) to conduct postal business.
        
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      <![CDATA[Also we need to remember why the USPS is in this situation.<br>
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      <![CDATA[cbb - "Note that the Post Office is enumerated as a government function in the Constitution..."<br>
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It's always good to remind folks about the Postal Clause of the U.S. Constitution when discussing USPS, so thanks for mentioning that.
        
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      <![CDATA[70%er, Issa was implicated in some way in the theft. I can't remember details now as it has been a long time. You are correct that he was not charged or convicted of anything.
        
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      <![CDATA[Yes, who, and that same Congress when asked why this "great" idea wasn't put into law for every business in the country, noted that it would destroy the country.  Bush 2, in all his stupidity, did follow directions exceedingly well.
        
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      <![CDATA[We can ultimately thank the Republican zeal for privatization for this bit of news.  They campaign on how government does not work, then get elected and try their absolute darndest to prove their point by breaking it themselves.  Hey, no sense in providing essential services if their donors can't profit from it, right?  <br>
"...almost all of the postal service’s losses over the last four years can be traced back to a single, artificial restriction forced onto the Post Office by the Republican-led Congress in 2006.<br>
At the very end of that year, Congress passed the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006 (PAEA). Under PAEA, USPS was forced to 'prefund its future health care benefit payments to retirees for the next 75 years in an astonishing ten-year time span' — meaning that it had to put aside billions of dollars to pay for the health benefits of employees it hasn’t even hired yet, something 'that no other government or private corporation is required to do.'"<br>
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/09/2…
        
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      <![CDATA[Dobert, how much should someone get at retirement - a gold watch and boot out the door?  Is that how we want to treat people who've worked their entire life?  Your vision of America is peopled by greedy bastards living in the moment and I hope you wind up under a bridge in your old age.
        
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      <![CDATA[Outlier, I believe Issa's brother was the car thief and Darryl marketed the locking steering wheel stick.  Darryl probably learned all he needed to know about car thieving from his brother, too bad he didn't learn how to be a decent human from someone in his family; that he didn't leads me to believe that his entire family is reprehensible scum.
        
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      <![CDATA[Could cut it to three days a week and close a bunch of these litlle Post offices and quit letting people retire at 55 at gazillion dollars a year.
        
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      <![CDATA[I can live without it.
        
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      <![CDATA[My Saturday junk mail can wait until Monday.
        
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    <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:12:48 -0600</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Issa was in car alarms, cbb. And possibly a little car theft and arson on the side.
        
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      <![CDATA[The Post Office management suggested this more than two years ago and super representative Issa, supreme mogul of the right wing attacker dogs, just drug out the sequence with his soon to be offered "plan" that never materialized.  The man should go back to his previous job (used car salesman???) and let adults serve in the House and Senate.<br>
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This won't play in the hinterlands but based on costs, there should be very few post offices in most "red" states because on average, less than 25% of all of the post office installations do enough business to cover their costs.  Here in Mt Vernon, we are now down to 3 hours a day but the PO boxes are now available longer.  Rural routes still flourish but for most states, they probably don't pay for themselves either.  <br>
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Note that the Post Office is enumerated as a government function in the Constitution but if FedEx or UPS took over, costs would probably triple (US postage costs are much cheaper than even Canada), still no Saturday delivery for less than $25, and Kansas and most of the rural south wouldn't have service at all.  Alaska would be a desert because there, the post office delivers fuel oil in 55 gallon drums and groceries to isolated outposts.<br>
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Since one reason for keeping the post office was to deliver SS checks and those are now being doen by debit card or direct deposit, the need for Saturday is suspect. When the Farmers Markers are in operation, we picked up Saturday's mail on Monday morning since the post office closed at 10:30 am and we were still at market.  I am a heavy user of the post office because of postage stamp trading I do but I can pick up the mail a day later and most of the junk mail from the GOTP just gets dumped at the post office anyway.
        
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