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    <author><![CDATA[Sound Policy]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[gaping, you must not get out much.  You may find this hard to believe, but voters all across Arkansas can use something called the 'internet' to send something called an 'e-mail' to their elected officials in support of or opposed to assorted legislation.  I'd suggest you google it, but since you've not heard of the internet and e-mail that won't do.<br>
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You know, the internet and e-mail and another new technology called the telephone almost make it possible for voters to express their views to their representatives on anything and everything.  Novel idea, huh?<br>
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On a personal note- almost without exception the PAID lobbyists I have known are lower life forms than that found in a bathtub drain.
        
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      <![CDATA[Well Sound Policy - that would be unconstitutional - but even if it wasn't, it would not be . . .  sound policy.  Not everyone has a daily agenda which consists solely of sipping lattes somewhere in Hillcrest a few minutes from the Capitol.   Most of the folks in Arkansas, believe it or not, don't even live in Little Rock and have things called jobs.  The Supreme Court has very explicitly  protected the rights of such folks, like members of unions, to hire people to advocate on their behalf.  I think that is probably what the framers had in mind since they struggled to converse with their government in far flung London despite the fact they had hired the able Benjamin Franklin to lobby for them there.
        
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      <![CDATA[Lobbyists keep us free. Without NRA lobbyists, we'd be living in a socialist dictatorship hell like France or Canada.  <br>
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The free market is the best determinant of societal goodness, and a free market in legislators is no exception. How will our legislators know how to vote if they can't simply add up the contributions they've been given to see which side wins?
        
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      <![CDATA[vitriolic- poppycock!  PAID lobbyists is the issue here.  And the revolving door between elected officials trying to cash in on their so-called 'public service' and those PAID lobbyists.<br>
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When people sell their bodies, they are called whores.  When people sell their votes they are called what?  Whores!<br>
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We need to outlaw PAID lobbyists.  Feel strongly about some public issue?  Go lobby as an unpaid citizen interested in public policy.<br>
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I've done it.  You can too.  It's free and it's called participatory democracy.
        
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      <![CDATA[Ethics? Arkansas Legislators don't need no stinkin' ethics!
        
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      <![CDATA[I am more concerned about the dinner on Edge Hill where the discusion is about how if the legislator gets some nifty laws passed there will be a lobbyist job offer after term limits kick in.
        
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      <![CDATA[Only in Arkansas is an $130,000 salary considered a "fat lobbying job."  Lobbying is a necessary evil in our republic.  The public is uninformed (maybe the media is too focussed on keeping their advertisers?) and the issues are complex.  Institutions have the constitutional right to make their arguments to their government.  Lobbyists are fairly similar to lawyers before a court.  There is always someone making the counterargument - yes even the big corporate lobbyists have counterweights.  It would also be shocking to some (unless they have seen the new Lincoln movie) that lobbyists are also often employed to do things the public would find positive.  As for lobbyist gifts, If a politician is going to be bought for a steak dinner I would rather have that dinner on the record with a lobbyist rather than quietly served at a house on Edgehill.
        
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