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      <![CDATA[Actually, Joe, the Kochs in question are very small, if wealthy.
        
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      <![CDATA[The most disturbing thing about this story is, if you look at "Congressman Porky's" rise to power (he's sitting in Wilbur Mills' chair after just one year in office) it's clear that all of our public institutions, including the Justice Department and the US Attorney's office, are, like Griffin himself, on their knees, servicing big Kochs.
        
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      <![CDATA[Even the pro-pipeline are starting to admit that "some" of the oil will be exported because it is going to a refinery in a "foreign trade zone" so it can move overseas without any American taxes paid ir need for government approval. It is probably going to China.  Note that the Canadian provincial governments wouldn't allow the pipeline to be built across THEIR provinces in what would have been Trans-Canada cheapest route because of the threat of a spill and the environmental impact.  Obviously, American whores, er, Republicans Representatives can be bought cheap. What it cost the Kochs for Little Timmy is about what they earn in 15 seconds.<br>
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Some of us predict that "some" of teh oil will be translated into honest talk as "100%".  The refinery can only handle certain types of crude and right now, most of the refined product stays in the US.  If it stays on line and no more refineries are built (not a government thing-this is the capitalistic oil companies conspiring to keep the price up by limiting the number of refineries), the net impact will be LESS oil products availabel in the US.<br>
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And, of course, we can expect to see a picture of Timmy and Hugo Chavis, dictator of Venezeula, on the editortial page of teh Arkansas Democrat repeatedly!  Hah!
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Skee Hee]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[And don't forget that the oil from Keystone will not effect the price of gas at the pump.<br>
Pump price is set by the world wide market and North America does not have enough oil to make a difference in that market.<br>
Oh, if 500 miles of pipe has already been made, not much more would be needed from Wellspun, so short on jobs too.
        
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      <![CDATA[Well, we know that Tiny Timmy is a whore, but Gly, why are you supporting a couple of millionaires who think nothing of dispoiling the country (water, air, land, Congress, AR legislature) to make money? Of course, they make sure that the area being screwed isn't exactly where they would ever live.
        
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      <![CDATA["I doubt it. They only spent $2.5 million to start it up, and they probably rent their data from the same sources everyone else uses."<br>
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Stop interrupting the narrative. It makes the Kochtopus look bad, therefore it is true.
        
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      <![CDATA[The Koch brothers remind me of Scrooge McDuck- without the humor.
        
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      <![CDATA[.<br>
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"Billionaires Secretly Funded Vast Climate Denial Network ($120 mil)<br>
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Conservative billionaires used a secretive funding route to channel nearly $120 million to more than 100 groups casting doubt about the science behind climate change, the Guardian has learned.<br>
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The funds, doled out between 2002 and 2010, helped build a vast network of think tanks and activist groups working to a single purpose: to redefine climate change from neutral scientific fact to a highly polarizing "wedge issue" for hardcore conservatives.<br>
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The millions were routed through two trusts, Donors Trust and the Donors Capital Fund, operating out of a generic town house in the northern Virginia suburbs of Washington, DC. Donors Capital caters to those making donations of $1 million or more.<br>
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<a href="http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/donors-trust-climate-denial" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/0&hellip;</a><br>
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but for Kochs 120 mil is still chump change.
        
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      <![CDATA[rad cen, I submit the answer to your question is the Mormon Church.
        
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      <![CDATA[I don't care if Themis tracks my porn habits, but I don't want to be outed as a lib. Pass the blindfold.
        
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      <![CDATA[If Themis is not "the nation's most sophisticated, detailed database on every American living, surpassing the most demonic dreams of the FBI" - which one is?<br>
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The answer is obvious.  Facebook.
        
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      <![CDATA["Themis, created by the Kochs, is the nation's most sophisticated, detailed database on every American living, surpassing the most demonic dreams of the FBI."<br>
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I doubt it.  They only spent $2.5 million to start it up, and they probably rent their data from the same sources everyone else uses.
        
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      <![CDATA[>>At the state level, the Regnat Populus ballot question would perpetuate this system with it's PAC money-laundering scheme.<<br>
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Keep up your silly blame game but until you find a work-around to Bush's Court the Citizen United decision remains the law of the land. <br>
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A group of concerned environmentalists in Fayetteville are busy folding 5,000 fliers today for handout in Washington, D.C. about the threat of the XL pipeline. Several have mobilized to protest in Okla.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[RYD]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[Tim Griffin (R-Koch Brothers/Rove) never has been, nor will he ever be for doing what is best for the citizens of Arkansas, because he is simply lower than Pond Scum!<br>
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Any way you want to slice it, Tim Griffin is signed, sealed and delivered to the Koch Brothers, and he'll do whatever they tell him to do, whenever they tell him to do it. <br>
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Tim Griffin should be doing (or have done) some hard time in a Federal Correctional Facility for engaging in illegal criminal voter caging in Florida during the 2004 Presidential Election.<br>
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Instead, he got rewarded for those felonious activities by being elected US Congressman from the Second District in Arkansas with the help of the Koch Brothers. <br>
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We now know part of the reason why the Koch Brothers invested so much of their "political money' into state Legislative races here in Arkansas. They already knew they were going to own the controlling interest in that proposed steel mill in Osceola and it was going to take A LOT OF STATE TAX DOLLARS to get that proposal off the ground.<br>
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Just say NO to Koch!
        
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      <![CDATA[and don't forget the Koch own 40% of the steel mill that Beebe has proposed for Oseola. Soon the Koch brothers will own more in Arkansas than the Waltons.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[HolyGuano]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[A pox on Tim Griffin!<br>
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He's my congressman but he hardly represents me. Can you divorce your congressman?
        
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      <![CDATA[Our campaign finance laws allow contributions from out-of-district persons and non-voters (corporations, unions, etc.), so Griffin is happy to represent any out-of-state special interest in return for money.  Hollywood lawyers, pipeline moguls, etc.<br>
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At the state level, the Regnat Populus ballot question would perpetuate this system with it's PAC money-laundering scheme.
        
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