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      <![CDATA[Nothing wrong with nostalgia, NRA, except to cynical old farts like you.  Neither Sky nor I said we want to go back,or that those times were better, and neither of us mentioned race. I don't for a minute believe you shot 50 birds at one time.
        
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      <![CDATA[The moral of the story is that it makes me laugh to see the rose-colored glasses on this blog.
        
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      <![CDATA[I remember those old times fondly, too. When blacks knew their place, when gays knew to stay in the closet, when you could beat your children as often as you felt they needed it, when the birth control pill was illegal and our women knew their job was to be barefoot and pregnant. <br>
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Those were the days when we had a MORAL SOCIETY. <br>
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I can remember elementary school back in rural Arkansas. If we had to divide something up or choose someone, we'd use that old tune "Eenie meenie miney mo / catch a nigger by the toe / if  he hollers / make him pay / fifty dollars every day."<br>
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I can remember one snowy day when school was out and my parents had to work. I was about 12. My little brother and I put some bird food out in the yard, got our guns (I owned 2 or 3 by that time), and we must have shot at least 50 songbirds.  White snow covered with red, blue, yellow, etc. feathers. Man, what fun!!! <br>
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I am pleased beyond measure to see the Arkansas legislature working hard to take us back to those halcyon days when our leaders were white, male and unafraid to take part in a little lynching if it was needed to teach a lesson.
        
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      <![CDATA[Plainjim:  You're right about different time, culture, morality:  That's what makes it so sad.  That really was a more innocent time.  And I realize that I grew up in the country and went to a rural school.  I'm sure our relationship with guns was different from the town kids.<br>
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And I'm certainly not advocating a "guns on campus" policy now.  I'm just mourning the loss of innocence and the need for all the restrictions that are being debated now.<br>
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I wouldn't want to return to ALL of the conditions of my childhood and youth, but some features would be really nice.<br>
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      <![CDATA[Personally, I think pregnant women may take offense to being compared to a castle.  They may want to re-phrase that one. If I were pregnant, again, my hormones would have gone mama grizzly on those legislators already.
        
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      <![CDATA[2 gun bills?  Guns in church/guns on campus/make gun records secret/castle doctrine defense for pregnant women/cut concealed permit fee. And that is just so far
        
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      <![CDATA[I know what Sky is talking about when he talks about kids using guns back in the olden days, because I was there, too.  When I was 10 years old, we lived out in the country, and my mother let me go squirrel hunting alone, and I never shot myself.  Of course, I didn't have a rapid-fire assault weapon to hunt squirrels with; I had a single shot  .22 cal. rifle.  If you missed the first time, which I often did because I was never a very good marksman (as my military instructors could attest to in later life),  you usually didn't get another chance, and had to go look for another target.  I did kill a few squirrels, though, which I was able to skin, even at age 10, and back in those days we actually ate them, usually with dumplings.<br>
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That was a different time, a different culture, and a different morality, Sky. I never took my gun to school, but a lot of teen-age boys did, leaving them in the gun rack in the back window of their pickup trucks. I never had a pickup truck until middle age, so I missed that particular coming of age ritual, but it was all very innocent.  How nice if we could return to that agrarian time, but as a famous American author said, "You can't go home again."
        
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      <![CDATA[Mean Gene(Emily Latella?), the talipublicants are trying to keep music out of vaginas so there's more room for them to be in there.
        
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      <![CDATA[>>You had kids that would handle a firearm responcibly. That was back in the day when you could get an Mi Carbine through the CMP for $25, and you could buy a surplus 9mm pistol through the mail.<br>
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And the high school kids could spell "responsibly," Ronald Reagan was advertising Chesterfields as good for life and 4 out of 5 doctors agreed that Kent cigarettes were better and "safer." Coca Cola bottles (returnable & refundable) were 8 ounces, cost a nickel and contained small quantities of 'the real thing.' <br>
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During WWII my uncle donated a Colt .45 pistol to the U.S. Army. In 1947 a wooden box arrived filled with wood shavings and his well greased .45 pistol along with a letter from the Sec of Defense thanking him for his loan.
        
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      <![CDATA[Some good comments above, but we attract some crazies too.  Like the legislators, our crazies repeat the tired worn excuses over and over.  It would be sad if it wasn't so scary.  I have a couple grandchildren at UA this year and one graduate who made his home there.  What happens the next time a referee makes a bad call?
        
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      <![CDATA[This is only the second pro-gun bill to pass the legislature as far as I can tell.  Why the "guns and fetuses" talk?
        
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      <![CDATA[You know, whe the gun control folks talk about 'reasonable' gun control, I read the comments here, and wonder, what is considered 'reasonable, when I see so many unreasonable remarks on this thread?  <br>
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As Sky noted, kids, those same young kids CBB claims cannot handle the responcibility of a firearm, were doing just that.  You had kids that would handle a firearm responcibly.  That was back in the day when you could get an Mi Carbine through the CMP for $25, and you could buy a surplus 9mm pistol through the mail.   <br>
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The constant is guns, the change is people.  It isn't the guns you have to control as much as why are kids killing with so little provocation.  Nobody wants to answer that question.   There are people who will exploit these tragedies to push their own ideals.  If you resist them, with facts, with arguments, with reason, you get responces like;<br>
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" Sick. Disgusting. Foolish. Insulting. Mean."<br>
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"Let us, after every senseless gun death at one of our institutions of higher learning hold up a large banner at the funeral saying: Republican Rep. Charlie Collins YOU BUILT THIS!"<br>
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"you must have a Talibaptist definition of "productive".<br>
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As if there was no merit whatsoever in letting people be prepared for a possible confrontation.  There is more emotion than reason flying around.  Perhaps the kids in our schools can be trusted with defending themselves.  If I had a daughter in college, I would feel better if she were armed.  <br>
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All this speak, of calling people with differeing views 'Talibaptist' only reveals a dark hypocrisy.  Maybe the person you disagree with is not a hate filled religious zealot who believes women are best bare-foot and pregnent.  But, not all that disagree with you feel that extreme.  <br>
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In the zeal to show how hateful the opposition is, people often reveal their own hate.  <br>
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Discussing real issues of self-defense should not devolve into a hatefest by either side.
        
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      <![CDATA[I should point out that Meeks gets a few bonus points for responding. Most politicians only respond, if at all, when one agrees with them. Disagree and they just block you. I'd never vote for him, but there ya go.
        
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      <![CDATA[David Meeks just let me know on Twitter that it's all about the 2nd Amendment ya'll.<br>
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      <![CDATA[I am just as disgusted with Beebe as with the State legislature!  No disagreement, fight, or even the threat of veto on most legislation moving down the pipe. <br>
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Understanding Beebe is in a "no win" situation, at least he could take a symbolic stand against these bills.  <br>
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Can anyone explain to me why Beebe, in his last term, has taken no firm stand or voiced any opposition to these bills?  Is the guy looking at running for Federal office or something?<br>
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While the legislature is up for the "dismantling of freedom and common sense award"  Beebe is in the running for the Arkansas "Pussy of the Year Award" in my opinion.
        
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      <![CDATA[Talibaptist means we read part of your 7 foot long single spaced Unibomberesque racist screed the last time you skipped your meds.
        
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      <![CDATA[>>"God, Guns and Fetuses." Drugs, you forgot drugs.<br>
Rep Josh Miller (R natch) just filed HB1384 to test Medicaid providers for illegal drug use.<<<br>
OK! <br>
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"GOD, GUNS, FETUSES AND PISS CUPS"
        
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      <![CDATA[eLwood, when that somnolent old fool Scalia legalizes personal drones I'm using one to take out my goddamned neighbor who's blasting his stereo in my windows at 3 AM.  Sumbitch'll listen to my complaints then.
        
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      <![CDATA[PV left one out.  Bitter.
        
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      <![CDATA["God, Guns and Fetuses."  Drugs, you forgot drugs.<br>
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Rep Josh Miller (R natch) just filed HB1384 to test Medicaid providers for illegal drug use.  Funny thing, he's only testing the low level schmucks, the physicians and their offices aren't mentioned.<br>
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Why are the Republicans so hell bent on punishing the people doing the scut work of society?  What makes Miller and his ilk think that you must be doing drugs because you can't get a job as a "property manager".<br>
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PVNasby hit the nail on the head: Sick. Disgusting. Foolish. Insulting. Mean.
        
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      <![CDATA[Sick. Disgusting. Foolish. Insulting. Mean.<br>
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Arkansas legislators, go home!
        
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