http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/02/22/morning-legislative-notes-ambivalence-about-guns-on-campus-no-word-on-beebe-vetoes-until-next-week Comments On: Morning legislative notes: ambivalence about guns on campus, no word on Beebe vetoes until next week by Lindsey Millar en-us Copyright 2013 Arkansas Times. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, Arkansas Times readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact Arkansas Times. robert@arktimes.com (Arkansas Times Webmaster) Sat, 25 May 2013 00:00:01 -0500 Sat, 25 May 2013 20:00:00 -0500 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss
I am quite serious when I say ALL homes in this country should be the norm. ALL. How is that for a number?
Posted by Steven E]]> Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:41:24 -0600 Arkansas Times
It can happen, if practical reality is accepted. But too much fear and emotion from the 'keep 'em defenseless' crowd."

Steven E, how many more guns are we lookin' at here. Let's just pick a number, say for a drop of 50% in the homicide rate. How many more guns, do you reckon, it would take to achieve that goal?

BTY, this is not a trick question. I don't doubt your sincerity when you say that you want the homicide rate and rape rate to drop. I want that to happen also.
Posted by Olphart]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 22:27:42 -0600 Arkansas Times
Here is your myopia in action. How would that murder count be if those murderers had not had access to firearms? Sure, the percentage of firearms death would be down, but the killings themselves would NOT.

Realistic is my view on arming everyone. You forget, I grew up in a state and a clown town where CCW was a dream, unless your Rosie O'Dunghole, hypocrite at large. Yes, L.A. does have a high homicide rate, a lot with guns. I know, also, that the gangs don't care if the cops ban legal carry by the citizens. Like you, they cheer about the unarmed citizen. In two of the cases where I used a gun for self defense, I was very worried about police interaction, as I knew, by saving my life in one case, and saved the lives of a gay couple in the other, that I had committed crime. I knew that I could be put behind bars for a longer term than the gang bangers that nearly beat the couple to death. Ironic, having a loaded double barrel shotgun in your car is more illegal than assault and battery and maiming. But in the time before cell phones, the idea of running to beg a phone from somebody meant that by the time the cops got there it would be too late. Dad brought me up to take care of numero uno, and to not get involved. Mom taught me to defend other when I can. I am grateful to my mom for giving me solid guidelines of right and wrong.

Here is the big thing. You can scream and plead with the wind to make guns gone, but it won't happen. As it stands, the reality is that in many areas where those homicides happen, the people are not encouraged, nor allowed to defend themselves. Bans ONLY hurt the citizen who wishes to keep themselves and their family alive. I want those people armed and ready to resist becoming one of your statistics. I would love to see the inverse number showing justifiable homicides of criminals by armed citizens, and the homicide and rape rate drop.

It can happen, if practical reality is accepted. But too much fear and emotion from the 'keep 'em defenseless' crowd.
Posted by Steven E]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 21:57:52 -0600 Arkansas Times
Arkansas: Land of Bitter White People Clinging to Their Firearms, Feti, and Fundamentalist Religion!
Posted by GrizLee Blackbear]]> Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:58:46 -0600 Arkansas Times
Latest figures:
All homicides (Source: CDC): 16,259
Firearm homicides (Source: CDC): 11,078

% of all homicides due to firearms (my calculation): 68.1%

So, Steven, what if anything are you willing to do to save those ~11,078 Americans who will be firearm homicides in 2013? Nothing, that's what. Just collateral damage to you gun fetishists.
Posted by Sound Policy]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:20:23 -0600 Arkansas Times
I do my part to keep myself protected from murder, and I have already done my part in keeping others from being murdered. In those times, I used my own guns, and in all those instances, I didn't have to fire my weapon.

The fallacy ni your argument isn't stopping murder by gun, but stopping murder, PERIOD. Thats is the hard thing to de in many neighborhoods where the murder rates are undeniably high, and they are mostly from gang on gang violence. What I call a zero-sum-loss. Criminal killing criminal doesn't bother me in the least.

Fact of the matter is, if I wanted to reduce homicide by the criminal element upon the lawful citizen, I would arm every household with at LEAST one handgun, one shotgun and one semi-auto rifle. After the first spike of criminals running afoul of lawful citizens protecting themselves, you will find a lowering of the crime rate.

But that would be too much like sense. The sheep rely on being helpless and trust idiot studies like Kellerman to tell them they are better off being victims.
Posted by Steven E]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:02:14 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by Sound Policy]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:38:59 -0600 Arkansas Times
You have your liars, partisan hacks, journalistic hacks and zealots who try and make their war against the NRA and the Second Amendment seem like some noble crusade. Problem is, this zeal against the scary black guns and those hi-cap mags leads to a certain overexhuberance on the part of legislators.

Already, Antonin Scalia has made his desire clear to settle, once and for all, the Second Amendment debate. I think he is getting pretty tired of how people like Barky the Boy Blunder, and others here, have intentionally misinterpreted the 'reasonable regulation' he wrote in his opinion. Recent legislation by other states have been anaked challenge to the Second. Now, in Colorado, there is a challenge to the Fourth, as well as the Second. This article best summarizes the issue.

"Posted By Clayton E. Cramer On February 21, 2013 @ 9:30 am
In Legal, US News

Imagine if Republicans in Utah or Alabama, responding to a horrifying sex crime, introduced a bill allowing warrantless searches of homosexuals’ homes to make sure they weren’t holding little boys as sex slaves.

The national media would be discussing this gross violation of the Fourth Amendment incessantly, using it as an example of how fundamentally fascist the Republican Party is — everywhere.

Cut to Washington State: in this case, liberal Democrats in the legislature have introduced an assault weapon ban that includes annual inspections of the homes of people that already own assault weapons to make sure that they are being safely stored.

There is no need for a warrant; there is no probable cause requirement; and the Seattle Times columnist writing about this clearly unconstitutional law observes that the sponsors include “Sen. Adam Kline, D-Seattle, a lawyer who typically is hyper-attuned to civil-liberties issues.”

After a stream of criticism, the author withdrew the warrantless search section of the bill, calling it a “mistake.” Yet, as Bryan Preston points out, the warrantless search section – word for word — was included in bills by Kline in 2009 and 2005.

Mistake? I think he was just finally caught and called out this time.

What makes this especially outrageous: not only are they ignoring the Fourth Amendment’s guarantee regarding warrantless searches and the Second Amendment’s guarantee of the right to bear arms, but also the Washington State Constitution’s guarantee of the right to bear arms.

Before liberals attempt to defend not only warrantless searches but also to claim that “assault weapons” are not protected: the Supreme Court of the State of Washington has recognized by name the AR-15 as a constitutionally protected arm.

The case was an ugly one: State v. Rupe (Washington, 1984). The defendant was convicted of murdering the two women who worked at a branch office of Tumwater State Bank. Rupe had left his bloodstained checkbook on the counter in the midst of the robbery, and was convicted on a combination of evidence including testimony of conspirators. No, Rupe did not use an AR-15; he used a revolver. So how did an AR-15 end up in this case?

Rupe was convicted of murder and sentenced to death. Yet during the penalty phase of his trial, the prosecutor told the jury that Rupe owned a CAR-15 (the collapsible stock version of the AR-15) even though it had not been used in the crime. The reason: the prosecutor believed this constituted evidence that Rupe was a very bad man, because he owned guns “good for only one purpose — killing others in combat.” (Rupe testified that he used the CAR-15 for varmint hunting, which is not an uncommon use of that rifle.)

Because this was a capital case, Rupe’s attorney filed a long list of exceptions hoping that the Washington State Supreme Court would overturn his conviction or at least the death penalty. The Washington State Supreme Court generally went along with the lower court on everything except one item: the attempt to sway the jury by the introduction of Rupe’s ownership of an assault weapon. The Washington State Supreme Court ruled that allowing Rupe’s ownership of such weapons into evidence during the death penalty phase of the trial would have a chilling effect on a constitutionally protected right: “The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself.” After all, if the exercise of a constitutional right can be turned against you under those conditions, it discourages people from exercising that right for fear of what might happen in the future.

I’m sure that some (gun-control advocates) would rationalize why the Washington State Supreme Court was wrong: after all, anyone that would own a gun like that is obviously a mass murderer in the making.

If that is your argument, return to the scenario at the start of this article: how different is your argument from an assumption that John Wayne Gacy is a typical homosexual?

One of the great dangers of democracy, and one of the reasons the Bill of Rights puts so many impediments into majority rule, is because in times of passion, voters ask for or tolerate the passage of laws that a bit more time for reflection would show to be irrational.

This particular bill demonstrates that liberal Democrats are every bit as capable of ignoring the Constitution as anything that is alleged to be in the Patriot Act. "
Posted by Steven E]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:25:18 -0600 Arkansas Times http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/22/in… (I particularly like the probe w/ the elephant).
Posted by Jennifer Coates Johnson]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:05:27 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by GrizLee Blackbear]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:05:26 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by I_AM_THE_NRA]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:51:35 -0600 Arkansas Times
Nothing shows the power of Fox News or Arkansan's dislike for black skin and women like our new legislature. Same can be said for people who think arming college kids is a great idea. Clearly those people have never been to college and encountered young boys having their first taste of freedom from back home.

I made a bunch of mistakes when I was at the U of A in the early 70s. Drinking, drugging, spending a night in jail, being rescued from the J Board by none other than Tommy Robinson. I remember the guy totally juiced on pure grain alcohol we pulled off the roof of Pomfret one night....he was preparing to fly. I remember helping to pull drunken John K. off the fire escape where he was hanging upside down on the 8th floor of the pre-refurbished Adolphus Hotel in Dallas.

I remember a couple of people who jumped off the top of Yocum Hall for reasons no one ever figured out. A few who died of alcohol poison, many who died in car wrecks. A number of Fort Baptist kids arrested for running down the streets naked. I was so drunk one night I almost raped a little girl who was even drunker...only at the last moment did my better angel overcome my primitive drunken desire to get laid. I'm still ashamed of myself. Bless her heart, she was killed in a car wreck the next year.

I also remember the day a large mob of us pulled President Bishop out of his office and made him promise that he wouldn't let the dimwitted Public Safety officers get guns the next semester. He lied of course and Pubic Safety got their guns. I haven't kept track, I don't know if any of them have killed students in the intervening years.

Now that I'm old and made it thru safely, those are great rest home memories. But if I look back and imagine most flannel shirted, long haired classmates of mine back then, armed to the teeth.....it just takes my breath away. Goddamn...what a horrible idea! Does the majority of "never been to college" Arkansas voters really want to see The Shootout At OK Corral reenacted at every Arkansas college?

Could it be that people whose kids will never go off to college thinks it's funny if our kids get shot on Party Night at their 2 or 4 year schools? Could Arkansans be that mean? Could Arkansans be that stupid? I have to worry about this stuff since I have 2 unarmed daughters at the U of A in Fayetteville.

mag and I worry enough about them driving back and forth on weekends....now we have to worry that their messed up neighbor might shoot them accidentally or on purpose? I never imagined such 1870 thinking would still be around in 2013.

Towelheads don't scare me....but bitter people clinging to guns and religion DO!
Posted by DeathbyInches]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:28:24 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by TuckerMax]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:21:09 -0600 Arkansas Times
http://ap.thecabin.net/pstories/state/ar/2…
Posted by GrizLee Blackbear]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:25:07 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by GrizLee Blackbear]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:24:53 -0600 Arkansas Times
What percentage attended a campus?
Posted by Citizen1]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:20:27 -0600 Arkansas Times
Don't know if this link will get past the pay-wall.

http://harrisondaily.com/news/student-s-co…
Posted by Silverback66]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:15:54 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by WPSforLife]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:45:08 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by mrprincipal07]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:56:31 -0600 Arkansas Times
The long history of cross-burnings, lynching and poll taxes are symbolically tied to King's bill, and should never be forgotten -- especially with our state's racist political lineage being kept alive with the likes of King, Bell, Irvin, Rapert, Sanders, et. al
Posted by Bull Connor]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:44:38 -0600 Arkansas Times
Thanks -- just checking for some pregnant friends who are applying for concealed carry permits next week.
Posted by sylviat]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:17:40 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by GrizLee Blackbear]]> Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:05:13 -0600 Arkansas Times