http://www.arktimes.com/arkansas/houses-of-worship-in-arkansas-deal-with-lifted-gun-ban/Content?oid=2713284 Comments On: Houses of worship in Arkansas deal with lifted gun ban by David Koon en-us Copyright 2013 Arkansas Times. All rights reserved. This RSS file is offered to individuals, Arkansas Times readers, and non-commercial organizations only. Any commercial websites wishing to use this RSS file, please contact Arkansas Times. robert@arktimes.com (Arkansas Times Webmaster) Sun, 19 May 2013 00:00:01 -0500 Sun, 19 May 2013 02:15:00 -0500 Foundation http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Posted by Andrew Fong]]> Thu, 07 Mar 2013 01:51:21 -0600 Arkansas Times
I contend it matters much whether someone is using an ax or a gun. You can run from an ax. You can't run from a bullet.

Prove to me that it's "far less likely that mass murders will occur" in spaces where concealed carry is allowed. Where's your evidence? I would contend that since the vast majority of mass shootings are carried out by mentally deranged persons, it makes no difference whether the shooter is in a "gun free" zone or not.

But the fact remains, there has never been a mass shooting in a church in Arkansas. Your odds of being in one, even considering national occurrences, are infinitesimal. And opening up churches to concealed carry only increases the risk of accidental shootings and, should an incident occur, innocents being killed by cross fire or accidental mis-identification of the shooter, or simple confusion in the heat of the moment.
Posted by Perplexed]]> Tue, 05 Mar 2013 23:49:36 -0600 Arkansas Times
There was an armed robbery at at least one Little Rock church last year - might have been two of them. Needless to say, it happens. Most of these incidents occur during after-hours, when only a preacher or secretary is present. What's so radical about a bill that says, "we're getting government out of church business"?
Posted by ProCarry]]> Tue, 05 Mar 2013 13:42:37 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by Perplexed]]> Mon, 04 Mar 2013 15:07:24 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by GrizLee Blackbear]]> Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:51:50 -0600 Arkansas Times
It seems to me that the odds of this happening are so minuscule that it really isn't worth all this energy. It may be that the odds of it happening in Arkansas are, at least historically, zero.
Posted by Perplexed]]> Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:17:22 -0600 Arkansas Times http://www.kait8.com/story/13208579/church…
Posted by ProCarry]]> Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:36:30 -0600 Arkansas Times http://www.king5.com/news/local/Car-of-Ark…
Posted by ProCarry]]> Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:35:56 -0600 Arkansas Times
Can you verify this? Not wanting an argument. Just wanting to verify.
Posted by Perplexed]]> Sun, 03 Mar 2013 20:58:48 -0600 Arkansas Times
Do you have evidence for this? Not wanting an argument. Wanting to verify.
Posted by Perplexed]]> Sun, 03 Mar 2013 20:31:32 -0600 Arkansas Times
It's already obvious which churches in the state have members which support conceal/carry. Probably a substantial number can be found in Baptist churches, Pentecostal, Methodist (to a lesser extent, surely), Church of Christ, etc.

It will be interesting to see how these churches deal with the issue. For instance, which Baptist churches will become pro carry? In conversation will they be referred to as a "gun church?" For example: "Oh that Baptist church on 3rd street? Yeah, they're a 'gun church.'"

I forsee a point where there may be denominational and church splits taking place in right wing congregations over the issue. "Gun Churches" will be labeled as more conservative and "Anti Gun Churches" labeled as more liberal. This issue may actually go a long way toward breaking up some right wing religion strongholds in the state.

How many pro conceal/carry members will a denomination or church lose if it refuses to become a "gun church?" Will the pro conceal/carry then start their own church/denomination or simply move to a "gun church?" How many churches are willing to be known as a "gun church?"

This is going to be interesting.
Posted by spunkrat]]> Sun, 03 Mar 2013 11:38:57 -0600 Arkansas Times
And yes, it makes a very strong statement about the churches that do feel the need to bring guns into their sanctuaries. So much for "turn the other cheek," and "he who lives by the sword..." Christ's original message has been so perverted by the institutionalization of Christianity that anyone practicing its original admonishments today would be arrested as cultists.

Trust me, Jesus would have had a lot to say today about the Gospel of Wealth, guns in churches, Christians getting involved in government, anti-gay-for-pay Christian activists, etc. And none of it would have been good.
Posted by Brad Bailey]]> Sun, 03 Mar 2013 07:34:39 -0600 Arkansas Times
Says it all.
Posted by rablib]]> Sat, 02 Mar 2013 17:09:00 -0600 Arkansas Times So, we've gone from the state telling you where you can and can't carry a gun to a church telling you that you can or can't carry a gun.

I thought it was my second ammendment right to carry a gun wherever I wanted?
Posted by Ron Rizzardi]]> Sat, 02 Mar 2013 16:24:04 -0600 Arkansas Times
Well, why not hire a security guard in a uniform for 20 bucks? Problem solved.

Instead, juvenile gun nutz have shoved religion INTO the state.

And the rest of the country laughs. How does this new law bring new and better paying jobs to the state, exactly?
Posted by spunkrat]]> Fri, 01 Mar 2013 16:42:30 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by Table Waiter]]> Thu, 28 Feb 2013 12:09:08 -0600 Arkansas Times Posted by Table Waiter]]> Thu, 28 Feb 2013 12:07:52 -0600 Arkansas Times