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      <![CDATA[I support JP Tyler Denton's proposed Amendment.  It's bi-partisan.  It brings all stakeholders to the table and diversity always makes anything stronger and better.  It places a moratorium on large scale development for a time, which is great as well.  We live in the Little Rock Heights and LOVE THIS AMENDMENT!!!!  There are bound to be mistakes when one looks at something too long like the Watershed Ordinance currently on the table that has been gone over by the same people from the county.  Let's have some fresh eyes on it.  JP Tyler's Amendment is stellar.
        
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      <![CDATA[((@Who ate my damn cookies?!!)) I will say three things here in response to your post: (1)This was not the only article that I am talking about; other articles assert a supposed alliance between Deltic/Kochs and the landowners (as well as well-meaning JP's) I believe that JP Denton deserves respect, not scorn. (2) There is no "alliance" between Deltic/Kochs and the landowners or the landowners and anyone else. That some of us find ourselves on the same side has very little to do with alliances. (3) You say, "it would be nice to get all of the interested parties in a room without any politicians, lawyers, or lobbyists. Perhaps some real common ground could be found..." Maybe this amendment gives us a real chance to do this. This is the real spirit of JP Denton's amendment. If you really read it, it is stricter than anything else previously proposed. It gives us all a real shot at consensus-building. The landowners want to protect the watershed. We have protected the watershed for years.
        
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      <![CDATA[@Joseph Dorer:  <br>
There is just one person that the blog says is paid to speak at the meetings, and his name is clearly listed above:  Brent Stevenson.  Can you understand why folks would be suspicious of a lobbyist for the company that has been pushing for development out there for over a decade?  <br>
There are many ears that would be much more receptive of the stories of you and the other landowners were you not allied with a very charming, smooth-talking lobbyist.  He is undoubtedly extremely good at what he does, and he is using his talent to advance his employer's agenda--which is at odds with that of those who want to protect their drinking water for future generations.  Can you understand why his involvement is a rallying cry for them?<br>
It would be nice to get all of the interested parties in a room without any politicians, lawyers, or lobbyists.  Perhaps some real common ground could be found...
        
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      <![CDATA[The questions of small interest against large interests is a small window into the politics of raw power; not the same base of knowedge for a watershed behavior.  Growing up on Oak Street, after the air force plane blew up over Little Rock, there were many small pieces of aluminum that fell to the earth along with larger pieces.  And the idea during the Winter of making snow ice cream became less appealing with air pollution.  The interests you mention (the Koch Brothers) made their money as drillers, some of their staff disappeared in Russia, courtesy of government.  From another perspective, when you read or listen to Warren Stephens talk about Fracking with Forbes in an interview about fianance, and the seeming disregard for the ecologies that are intricately tied to the designs of life in nature, then problems begin to emerge in policy that govern and shape the long term interests of the citizenry.  Great dreams are tied to architects, planners and engineers if not attorneys and real estate interest.  But if you would think about water and the spirit, ponder a little about the idea of water coming out the mountains and realize the better interests for an area, then the requisite value for long term development, operations management, and much stronger actions become the imperative.  Leadership, if that is even expressed, is more in fear of monies walking across the highway or outside of the state, nor matter how natural one wishes to market the pleasures of golf.  There were days when there was no wind in the sails at the Maumelle Sailing Club, and unfortunately our entry into the water was one of "man overboard."  Perhaps, soemm folks need to walk the plank or walk on water?  As you probably discovered, trying to find the appropriate words for charged public meetings does not exactly equate to being heard or understood.
        
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      <![CDATA[Every time I read one of these AR Times Blog articles or even think about what I've read, I am filled with anger. Deltic Timber??? The Koch brothers??? These are supposedly the people paying everybody to speak or vote a certain way at PCQC meetings??? Where were Deltic or the Kochs when my PE teaching father did everything he could buy the land and house that he was renting in order to keep it from being sold out from under his family? Where were they when the stress of denied loan after denied loan almost ended this dream? Where were they when this dream was finally realized? Where were they when my brothers and I as children were picking-up aluminum cans alongside AR Highway 300 hundred to help make this dream possible? Where were they as we kept Lake Maumelle in pristine condition all of these years? Where were these people when the sudden horror of this land-usage and zoning plan finally hit-home within our hearts--that what our family has fought for was being threatened by outside interests. Who are these people that you keep talking about in your articles??? They certainly are not there when I finally muster-up enough courage to inadequately express my views in PC Planning Board and Quorum Court meetings. They certainly aren't there as my mind races at night trying to figure a way to help others within the county understand the small landowner's point of view. And this is just the story of me and my family, and how Deltic Timber and the Koch brothers play no role in our lives. Within the Lake Maumelle Watershed, there are many,many stories more compelling than this. This is our homeland that you are talking about; these are our lives that you are talking about; outside interests have nothing to do with this.
        
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      <![CDATA[Kate Altoff is an uninformed reactionist who only considers the "green" side as the truth.  She owns no property in the watershed and should try to understand the concerns of landowners. The proposed ordinance would steal our land while still requiring us to pay taxes on the stolen land while warning of hidden pollutions occurring now. The pristine water of Lake Maumelle is NO danger of pollution in the immediate or distant future.   CAW's own research has proved that to be true.  The main danger for any distant future pollution lies in the boats spewing oil and gas into the water and the runoff from dirt  roads.  Those are problems that can be easily solved without stealing our land without just compensation. <br>
Justice Denton is a concerned citizen who, unlike many others, is willing to look at both sides before making an important decision. He is man enough to stand up to the tyranny of Buddy Villines who is not used to new Justices using their own brains instead of cowtowing to his demands.  Thank you again, Mr. Denton.  <br>
I have spoken to the vast majority of  LANDOWNERS in the watershed and have yet to find ONE LANDOWNER in favor of the ordinance. So, yes Ms. Altof, I have already joined the other community LANDOWNERS in our struggle to protect our property and constitutional rights.   The landowners in and around the watershed are and will continue to be good stewards of the land.
        
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      <![CDATA[JP Denton is someone who is willing to stand-up to pressure and ensure that small property owners in the watershed are not crushed by larger interests, while at the same time protecting the watershed. It took a tremendous amount of courage and understanding of a very complex issue for him to do what he did.
        
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      <![CDATA[I just want to bring up another fact that is being over looked by zoning supporters. Once you pass the zoning ordinance and it is in place. All a large developer or business has to do to change guide lines in his favor, is get a variance. Which Judge Vallines has stated over and over would be simple to do. Judge Vallines has already given 2 Variances 1) to allow for the sod farm to keep operating along the maumelle river and 2) the alotian golf course across from Jolly Rogers Marina. Both are constantly spraying Herbicides and Pesticides into your drinking water as we speak.<br>
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Wake up people!! Zoning only PROMOTES development and industry.<br>
Conservation is our only hope to save the water shed.<br>
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Lets use the time we have to work together. Bring environmentalists, large land owners, Government officials and CAW together for a real piece of legislation that focuses on Conservation not Zoned development.<br>
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Large land owners can see the value of conservation that will raise the value of surrounding properties both existing and future developments. Should offer lowest dollar for leases and purchases to CAW. This should be a cost that the rate payers can handle and in the long run 50 60 years from now an extremely profitable investment. The citizens of pulaski county will be able to enjoy the best drinking water in the nation at a very low cost. Promoting itself as a great place to live. That will bring more tax revenues and jobs. That will allow deltic to create more communities surrounding the water shed, not in it, with much higher profits than would be gained by developing inside the water shed.<br>
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WE CAN DO THIS.
        
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    <author><![CDATA[Mean Gene]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[I don't care who is growing the grass.  It needs to stop.
        
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      <![CDATA[Viewing the likes/dislikes- maybe people just are too busy in their city (Little Rock) lives to care. Everyone wants clean drinking water DUH!!!. <br>
Max Brantley and Buddy Villins can tell you slanted facts if they want to. They have other interests. <br>
The area up there is PRISTINE land. BIG Money to be made folks. People in the city know nothing about the landowner's record who have worked all their lives to buy into this area and continue to be good environmental stewards. See any Arkansas Times scientific backed press releases about how landowners are causing pollution ??? It is easy emotional argument for them to say "we must protect the lake from pollution" and no data to back it up. Advantage for Villins People: in Little Rock folks think there is a big threat all of a sudden since Villins says it and the Arkansas leaning press just slants further. Why are these leaders pushing this land development scheme do you think?? Answer: It is competition before your eyes. Connections...<br>
Hey my speculation is 10x BETTER than Brantley/Villins. <br>
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No speculation before your eyes: <br>
1.Justice Denton is the hero of the little people.<br>
2.The little people will be hurt in the outcome if Justice Denton is not supported..
        
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      <![CDATA[Mean Gene<br>
The Zoysia farm that is on the Big Maumelle is owned by none other than CENTRAL ARKANSAS WATER and is still currently being fertilized, grown and harvested.  It is only leased by the company selling the grass and CENTRAL ARKANSAS WATER receives a portion of the money made from the sale of the grass as well as the money from the lease of the property.<br>
Maybe you need to do a FOIA for the imformation yourself. Ask for the Canterbury/DeHaven/Winrock Grass Farm deal documents and you will see for yourself.
        
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      <![CDATA[The amendment was introduced less than 24 hours ago.  It is not simply a moratorium on all development.  The amendment clearly has some rough edges that need to be work through.  The impact on water quality is not clearly known at this moment.  I can assure you that I along with other very trusted citizens are staying abreast of the situation.  We are advocating and analyzing.  As soon as I have a definitive position on the amendment, I will let you know
        
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      <![CDATA[Amen on #6 WyeMtn.  <br>
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Deltic's abuse of the land (nevermind the Zoysia farm practically at the mouth of the Big Maumelle) will do far more than the few land owners in the area.  They just don't need to be addressed at all.  The area has expensive homes and mini-farms that do nothing compared to acres of poisoned land.
        
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      <![CDATA[The Penny family of the Lake Maumelle Watershed is very wealthy people.  I am not referring to financial wealth.  I have no knowledge of their financial wealth.  I do know decades ago they recognized the beauty of the land.  They worked to buy the land.  It is my understanding they now have 3 generations living on the land.  The Penny family has the American Dream and it is truly a Blessing.  Clearly they have done there share to make it happen. Unfortunately, there are numerous clear and undisputable indications that the area in which they live is going to change.  Given enough time, the transformation will be dramatic. This cannot be an easy reality for folks like the Penny’s to accept.   We do have an opportunity now, before the change, to plan and direct that transformation.  It is for this reason I support zoning regulations.  It is my hope the Penny family will join the rest of the community in their support of the zoning regulations.  Decades ago the Penny family had the wisdom to recognize the possibilities.  I am hopeful they will once again.  <br>
One indication of the coming growth to area is the Wal-Mart super center built only 3 miles from the east end of the lake.  I am sure some of the readers remember when the Wal-Mart located on Bowmen seemed to be on the edge of the woods. <br>
Another indication of the coming development to the area is included in this press release from Deltic Timber.  <a href="http://www.deltic.com/ir/relandsale122801.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.deltic.com/ir/relandsale122801.&hellip;</a>
        
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      <![CDATA[Ok everybody lets quit with the conspiracy theories and do a Quick Break Down.<br>
1) Small Property owners that LIVE in the watershed are not trying to pollute the lake. They will not receive any money if it is developed.<br>
2) CAW has always had control over how many homes were built, by simply not providing water supplies to the land they don't want developed. Hard to get a mortgage on a home that does't have water<br>
3) But now CAW has (as quickly as possible) expanded and run large supply lines into the water shed to promote development of the area which will bring in more revenues. More Homes more meters. <br>
4) More homes also bring more taxes for Judge Vallines and the County to use for their pet projects.<br>
5)Large property owners that don't live in the water shed should remember that most of their property was taken from individuals that had to move when the lake was made and given to them intended for forestry not development.<br>
6)The continuous practice of clear cutting instead of select cutting has caused the most damage to the lake and silted it in.<br>
7)The environmental studies that were done by Tetra Tech and USGS both state guide lines that allow for much more development than what the zoning allows. Without the science to back up the Ordinance leaves the County and CAW exposed for multiple law suits at the taxpayers and rate payers expense. <br>
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If CAW really wanted to protect the water shed they would stop zoning and start land accusation through leases and purchases with strict guide lines on forestry management.
        
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      <![CDATA[I wish I was surprised that Denton sold out. I have always been underwhelmed by Tyler, I hope the JP district will find a strong candidate to run against him in 2014. Of course he will have Koch money to back him up, but he can and ought to be defeated. What a sad situation for our county.
        
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      <![CDATA[Denton is my JP. I'm not a landowner in the watershed, I do drink the water. Unlike several of the commenters, I actually read the amendment. Perhaps there is some confusion over what the word "moratorium" means, but the amendment appears to put the brakes on any significant development, while creating a process to come up with a permanent plan with input from everyone affected instead of a select few. That sounds pretty reasonable to me. Villines' promises to not participate in the process sound like a spoiled child.<br>
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My knee-jerk reaction is to be on the side of water quality protection, ostensibly CAW's goal. However, I lost any faith in the purity of that organization's motives when I read that they were going to pay $500,000 to the Chair of the Pulaski County Planning Commission for an easement on his land, located in the watershed. This "easement" apparently exempted him from the proposed ordinance, while imposing fewer restrictions on his land than the ordinance would impose on every other landowner. He was the only person offered this sweetheart deal.  I think taking a step back and examining this deal more closely makes a lot of sense. Something smells, and it's not just the manure Mr. Vogelpohl is spreading in the watershed.
        
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      <![CDATA[Thank you Mr. Denton.  I am a landowner who has lived on the North Shore of Lake Maumelle for 20 years.  I have NEVER been contacted by anyone in the County about this draconian ordinance which was going to TAKE my land away with NO compensation - and I would be required to continue paying taxes on the land I couldn't use. The new amendment by Mr. Denton will allow the landowners to have input into measures effecting their lives and the lives of their children and grandchildren.   People like Kate Altoff who want to tell others how to live their lives have NOTHING to lose because they have no property being effected. The water in Lake Maumelle is pristine. CAW's OWN study reported the quality of the water would not be effected even if thousands of houses are built.   The quality of the water will not change in 4 years and will give the landowners a chance to have input into ordinances that will effect the rest of their lives. Thank you Mr. Denton for standing up for the property owners and giving us a chance to have input into this ordinance.
        
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      <![CDATA[What tastes like mud to some tastes like money to others. All I am going to be able to taste is the silt.  We have excellent drinking water with minimal treatment costs. Those days will soon be behind us.
        
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      <![CDATA[The amendment tightens up the only items in the land use ordinance related to water... additional prohibited uses and expanded steam set backs (over two hundred percent larger). So what's to hate.  No development for four years; again why do the county, CAW and the planning commission have a problem with that if they want to restrict development and protect our water.  The rest of the ordinance are aesthetics for the exclusive development that the county, CAW and the Planning commission want to control for the benefit of their preferred interests.  Sounds like the county doesn'thave a problem with development; only who does it.  Letting the people affected by the ordinance have a say is democratic, why has that been a problem.
        
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      <![CDATA[All I know is you people kill me.  Read the amendment.....Deltic can build 5 houses over the next 4 years.  Sounds pretty good to me.  If the county and CAW don't like what landowners are doing, go buy their land.  It isn't ours to take without compensating them.
        
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      <![CDATA[PC<br>
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Private Property rights extend to CAW the same as other private property.  <br>
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CAW does not have to wait until harm is done to protect CAW's interests.  <br>
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The only reason the Court felt "blindsided" was because the fix was in and the court thought they could get away with it.  Thus, they were blindsided.<br>
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400,000 people get their drinking water from the lake.  Those 400,000 are reaping the EARLIER INVESTMENT the community made in high quality affordable water service.<br>
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No one is being told to un-develope their land.  Science and studies have determined the outcomes of various amounts and types of developement.<br>
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It is not a guess, actual history of outcomes in other areas have shown what will happen to the lake, its water quality and its costs to purify with various regulations.<br>
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All agree the right to swing one's fist stops where the neighbor's nose begins.  The honest and logical agree the right to alter your own private property stops where  neighbor's property begins.
        
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