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you reap what you sow!!!

Don't feel special. Quite a few weeklies aren't on the list.

If you really care do things the American way. Go file daily FOI requests on that crap and annoy them into submission.

Your colleagues in other media outlets will soil their pants at the very suggestion that they stand with you against Alice Stewart, the most arrogant idiot ever to occupy the position of gubernatorial press secretary.

Besides reading the ADG and watching the news I read the AT Blog. I can't believe they aren't going to submit information to y'all. That's crap! Real technical term there, but totally describes how I feel.

Hey Guv,

You aren't paying for those press releases with your money. They are being paid for by me and others who don't always agree with you but realize that the public has the right to know how the government is working, even actions that we disagree with.

We published a monthly newletter in our town for six years which listed town business and everyone, even those who didn't like the fact that they might have their minutes of their meetings published, sometimes to the amazement of those who voted for them, agreed that a written request to be notified of meeting, provided with the planned agenda, and the availability of memos ,etc is the law in this state.

Hey Gov, you aren't KG I and this will be spread around the country by the blogs faster than you can say "Wayne Dumond".

Go after them, Max.

Seems like this kind of petty thing wouldn't be practiced by a man hoping to run for national office.

But petty is a Huckabee standard. I recall that the Times has routinely been excluded from other things, including some nice meals.

Good luck in your pursuit of legal remedies. I hope you embarrass them no end. Like so many cases of this kind of action, they will end up realizing they should have left well enough alone.

If the ArkFam blog is on their list and if so, how they reconcile that.

All of the press releases are on their website. Why don't you just look there?

My uncle got a call from Sara Agee in the governor's office last week. She was trying to raise money for Chris Morris. Isn't that illegal? No wonder they are hiding from the media.

I don't know that you'd win on a First Amendment claim (re the freeze out of reporters in Maryland), but the discovery process would be worth the price of admission. You could sell tickets and broadcast rights to Huckabee sweating under the glare of inquiry under oath. And you could have a contest for who gets to deliver the subpoena for the distribution list and notes of internal discussions, emails, the smoking gun memo, etc.

Huckabee, like his presidential counterpart, has shown nothing but disdain for the press (and the accompanying 'rights') since he was elected governor. I guess self-professed men of God don't answer to trivial concepts like the press as a watchdog rather than an enabler.

Even if you hate the Times (or the media in general), a governor's office that self-determines what media are worthy of their acknowledgement should concern you.

Freedom of information act.

Enough said.

RE: We don't consider the Arkansas Times a news organization.

Such a putdown to a 'journal' that gives Huckleberry fairly good coverage. Had enough abuse or will you go back for more?

The school yard bullies are merely kicking sand in your face again. AT, have you had enough Republican trash yet?

File a lawsuit and fight for freedom of the press. You don't need the big bad Dog to hold your hand. Do the right thing and do it yourself.

I liked him better when he was fat!

Why should the guv trifle with a news shopper weekly like the Arkansas Times? Its influence in the grand scheme of things is rather limited.

Fight back! Start bombarding that capitol and lawbreaker Huckabee with FOI Requests. Or not...it's your fight.

Here's the url and some excerpts.

Who can file? You can. Who can sue? You can. That applies to everyone that is an Arkansas citizen. Understood? Now, go fight for your First Amendment Rights and see what that wolf is hiding.

AR FOI Request:

http://www.rcfp.org/cgi-local/tapping/index.cgi?key=AR

More on AR FOI:

I. STATUTE - BASIC APPLICATION.
A. Who can request records?
1. Status of requestor.

"[A]ny citizen of the State of Arkansas" may make a request. Ark. Code Ann. § 25-19-105(a)(1). The term "citizen" includes a corporation doing business in the state. Arkansas Hwy. & Transp. Dep't v. Hope Brick Works, Inc., 294 Ark. 490, 744 S.W.2d 711 (1988). This approach would also include partnerships and other unincorporated associations doing business in the state. Indeed, the Supreme Court has said that "anyone who requests information is entitled to it." Bryant v. Weiss, 335 Ark. 534, 983 S.W.2d 902 (1998

***

I. STATUTE - BASIC APPLICATION.
C. What records are and are not subject to the act?
1. What kind of records are covered

All records "required by law to be kept or otherwise kept, and which constitute a record of the performance or lack of performance of official functions" are public records. Ark. Code Ann. § 25-19-103(5)(A). Records "maintained in public offices or by public employees within the scope of their employment" are presumed to be public records. Id. In Orsini v. Beck, No. 98-1011, 2000 WL 426568 (Ark. 2000), the Supreme Court held that law library logs kept by a Department of Correction facility, which were "maintained by the prison to monitor the use of the library," were presumed to be public records under Section 25-19-103(5)(A). See also Depoyster v. Cole, 298 Ark. 203, 766 S.W.2d 606 (1989) (ballots recording individual votes of members of governing body "obviously constitute a record of the performance or lack of performance of official functions"); Ark. Att'y Gen. Op. Nos. 97-244 (customer-specific records of municipal water system are public records), 97-406 (recordings of inmate telephone calls, which are routinely taped by prison officials, are public records within the meaning of the FOIA), 93-002 (document "proposing a course of action" by the action is within statutory definition).

****

WHO MAY SUE

V. PROCEDURE FOR OBTAINING RECORDS.
D. Court action.
1. Who may sue?

"Any citizen denied the rights granted him by [the FOIA] may appeal immediately from the denial . . . ." Ark. Code Ann. § 25-19-107(a). The Attorney General, acting in his official capacity, is a "citizen" for purposes of this provision. Bryant v. Weiss, 335 Ark. 534, 983 S.W.2d 902 (1998). Consequently, the Attorney General can request the same records that have been sought unsuccessfully by someone else and, upon denial of that request, bring an action under the FOIA to force disclosure.

Sorry, Max, but I don't consider you a news source, either. You slant the "news" you are "reporting" to the side you want, not a fair and balanced viewpoint. You include your viewpoints along with the "news" and quite frankly, if one relied on the Times only, one would be missing a lot.

Alice Stewart the stutterer denying free speech, freedom of the press and full disclosure.

Alice, honey, they have sold you down the river to hell. Get out while you can, confess repent and atone!

That is really cute, what they said and all.

I've never considered him a real governor, he's just some blow hard liar that may or may not have graduated high school then went into preachin'. He was a nobody when th big money boys tapped him to run because he would do exactly what they told him. Just like Bush his co hort.

Inside -

If one relied on any single news source only, then they would be missing a lot. It's irresponsible only getting your news from one side of the issue, which is why information should be open and distributed through as many media and by as many viewpoints as possible.

"Sorry, Max, but I don't consider you a news source, either. You slant the "news" you are "reporting" to the side you want, not a fair and balanced viewpoint. You include your viewpoints along with the "news" and quite frankly, if one relied on the Times only, one would be missing a lot."

Funny, the same can be said for the D-G and they get the news releases.

I get all giddy imagining Alice Stewart, who was only hired because she could spend her days training Huck to run a marathon, cowering in the corner while Bro Guv hollers at her over the latest revelation by Max and The Times.

"My uncle got a call from Sara Agee in the governor's office last week. She was trying to raise money for Chris Morris. Isn't that illegal?"

Agee was probably on one of her smoke breaks outside the capitol and using her personal cell phone.

" The governor has decided to punish us for our opinions .."

Shades of Tricky Dick. Is it genetic? Tricky Dick a Repub and The Huckster a Repub. Nah, must be a philosophical gene inherrent within the party.

Leave it to Huck and Stewart to imagine that if they don't tell you what they're up to over there at Capitol and Oaklane that you won't be able to find out what they're doing.

"Sorry, Max, but I don't consider you a news source, either. You slant the "news" you are "reporting" to the side you want, not a fair and balanced viewpoint. You include your viewpoints along with the "news" and quite frankly, if one relied on the Times only, one would be missing a lot."

Funny, the exact same thing can be said about the Democrat Gazette. Are they still getting news releases?

The AT should take some action here simply out of principle. On the other hand, it won't be long before Huck is a paid lobbyist or back in preaching. My bet is if he actually does make a run for president, it will be so embarrassing that he won't be able to run for public office again. Digging his political grave with a backhoe, never mind the flatware.

This confirms what I've said all along about the Gov (and I've been reluctantly voting for him too). He's a political lightweight. He can't handle a little ole weekly liberal leaning rag who gets under his increasingly thin skin. No way this guy could run for or hold a national office. He'd have a meltdown within a week. Too bad.

Some of you are saying freedom of the press, well that is ridiculous. the Gov. is not telling the press what they can write so it is not freedom of the press or free speech or any of the first amendments. That is a losing battle in this case. The other claim is FOI,FOI, FOI. It is starting to sound like "Citizens Arrest" around here. That would be a charge with no teeth as well, since the Gov.'s office is sending the thing to NEWS organizations. Not to mention the his press releases are made public through his website.
Let's look at what you could really say. HMMM. I guess you could charge that he hurt your feelings and isn't nice to you. Yeah, that is a good stance go with that.

As to the folks who say the Gov. denies access to the media, c'mon. One day you claim he is always calling a press conference, or doing a talk show (where the people not the press ask questions), or getting on the radio or something, and the next you are saying he is dodging the press, because he told the Times they aren't going to send them a press release. Get Real.
Maybe the Gov.'s office figured since you will work so hard to write a story that doesn't exist, you would have no problem writing one that does. So no need to bother sending you one.

ARK. BLOG 1) a public player cannot punish someone (by withholding public services) on account of unpopular opinion. That's a first amendment issue. 2) ANYBODY who requests public information is entitled to it. The FOI is the public's law, not a press law.

Not a news organization? Hell, it's the only credible one in the state.

I tried to send a critical email to the Gov's office and it was rejected due to some server error. Guess if ti is not complimentary the server sends it back. This is just another example of his pettiness. What will he do with the New York Times when he hits the big time trail?

The Governor's office must be using a liberal playbook.

When the Governor tries to block the press you should hold on, the SS Huckabee is about to go down!

All of the press releases are on their website. Why don't you just look there?
Because that would make them real journalists who report truth,
instead of propaganda artists.

ARK. BLOG: They are not always timely posted, particularly notices of news conferences. Regardless, it's about equal treatment of all members of the public requesting taxpayer-financed services.

...This is just another example of his pettiness. What will he do with the New York Times when he hits the big time trail?

Find another Judith Miller.

Some of the posts on this thread demonstrate that the governor's not the only one who skipped class when the role of the media in free societies was discussed...or the one about out-of-control government...or the one about ignorance not being blissful.

Yes, thank God for the Arkansas Times. Without it I wouldn't know where to go for the best 'cue, as they call it, although I never heard barbecue shortened to that precious syllable in all my Southern days before their usage.

And without the Times, I wouldn't spend so much time pondering the crotch of that lingerie model.

Is there a parallel about open government there?

This is a very intentional black balling of the AT. I do not agress with their choice to do this.

AT - any similar weeklies in New Hampshire or Iowa? Have you put the word out to your colleages up there and elsewhere about this kind of bias? I hope you pursue this.

Also, I feel for Alice Stewart. She's a nice person who had no idea what she was stepping into - not an easy job in any administration. I'll bet she thinks this sucks too.

Don't let Huck rest.

Another classic move by the High Holy One. Can never understand how a preacher forgets turning the other cheek. Such a petty vindictive move. I can herdly wait to watch him flounder in the nationlal spotlight

Totally agree with you Max. Good luck on gaining access but take this slap as a badge of honor. We all know that the Huckster gets his feelings hurt when the truth is reported.

The national media is on the case.
The link has been posted to the influential Romenesko website run by Poynter.
That is some serious inside baseball, but Poynter is the group that owns the St. Pete Times and is a key player in journalism with its foundation.
Romenesko is a media maven and has a daily website with links to stories about the media.
Most newspaper types got there daily.
http://www.poynter.org/column.asp?id=45

You know except for when Huckabee is being a gift whore, or when he flip flops when one of his owners jerks his chain, there really is no need to waste newsprint or pixels even mentioning the fool.

He accomplishes so little for the state of Arkansas, we could go years without hearing or reading his name. If it wasn't for his outsized ego, he'd still be in South Arkansas passing out snakes to his little congregation every Sunday. He belongs in Washington like I belong in the centerfold of Playgirl, (do they even publish that thing any more?).

Watching Rome on HBO 6 months ago was every bit like watching modern politicians. They really do set up little kingdoms of their own right in front of our eyes. Huck has built himself a new mansion to live in, got free clothes from Jennings, got new furniture from another guy, got a free airplane to fly around in, got some 3650.00 cowboy boots to walk in, 500 buck belt, free cars, trips all over the country for his personal benefit...He's a little King George Bush, party of 1, the Hope Sun God......and we pay for it one way or another.

And now as Huckabee heads down the homestretch to unemployment, he's getting grumpy. He has removed his pail and shovel from the sand box and he doesn't want to play with the Arkansas Times any more. Think of it more like losing a scab, Max and Warwick. It's actually an honor to be cast out of Huckster's fan club. It's like not being invited to Paula Jones next birthday. I don't get into politics because I'm too much of a snob, I would rather take an acid bath than even be in the same building with most of our politicians. I value my friendship with street people more than wasting what little time I have left pretending to find conversation interesting with people so dull they weren't allowed to hang out with the AV guys in high school.

So sue them. FOI them. Put a private eye behind them every time they leave the mansion. They have declared war on the Arkansas Times, take the battle to them. It's already ugly, and it's going to get oh so much more ugly from now until November and then on to the 08 elections. We are all enduring a trial by fire and there will be casualties on either side of the road. So be it. Gird you loins! (whatever that means)

Since the AT is part of the Stephens family, aren't your other "partners" getting these releases? This isn't any abrdigement of the rights of a free press or a violation of FOI, it's a pissing contest between the Guv & AT. Sorry, but the Guv will win this one because while it may not be convenient for AT, it's not in the same ballpark (or even the same sport) as being illegal. It's probably debateable if this is even a bad PR move for the Huck. He's probably scoring as many points on his side for this as he's losing with AT readers.
Hmmm, sounds like good old fashioned politics.

ARKBLOG: The Arkansas Times is an independent newspaper and the Stephens family has nothing to do with it.

ALRoC, you're a moron. The AT is owned by Alan Leveritt, and is not part of the Stephens family. The AT is also news "partners" with KUAR and Fox 16, does it make them part of the "Stephens family," too?

Dumbass.

This week's Arkansas Times, "Where Hearts Are Young, Old and Gay," is either one hot issue at the Capitol, where the rack has been all day ... or the governor has sent down its goon squad to pull a frat prank to abscond with every copy of the paper.

This week's Arkansas Times, "Where Hearts Are Young, Old and Gay," is either one hot issue at the Capitol, where the rack has been empty all day ... or the governor has sent down his goon squad to pull a frat prank to abscond with every copy of the paper.

If the Times wants access to the news releases, it should have it. It's not like it's costing the state anything to add Max to the e-mail list. It's merely an attempt to discredit the Times. Huck has every right (and it's called freedom of speech) to criticize the Times if he wants. But he shouldn't turn it into a state action by excluding them from press releases that other media (many competitors to the Times) are receiving just because he doesn't like them. That's petty and violates the spirit, and most likely the text, of the First Amendment.

as a fellow journo, i, too, hope you flood the guv's office with foia requests. do keep us posted.

At least he didn't try to sic the State Police on one of your reporters again, Max.

There's a term for behavior like that of Huckabee and his ilk:

chicken shit

Ark Times Blog, he is not witholding the information from you, his office is just not hand delivering it to you. I think you know very well that you don't have a case against him on this one, considering that the press releases are on the website and the information is being distributed. If you want it you are going to have to look it up online or get it from one of your friends. He is not telling you that you can't print stuff about him and therefore not a violation of free speech and you know this too. You use the phrases because they are bad and get folks in the spirit of anger. However, if you thought you really had him, this would have already been filed in court or with the ethics folks. But smart enough you are, to know that by just putting it out there it accomplishes your goal of smearing the Gov. and you don't really have to do anything that might prove you are wrong. Very sly.

ARKBLOG: If it is so easy to access his press releases, why doesn't he ask every news organization to just look them up on the website? And why would he go to the trouble of removing us from the email list if it didn't have a real effect on our ability to get the news?

The fact is that the press releases are not posted on the website in a timely fashion. Those who receive the emails get the news first.

Huckabee is a public official using public resources. He can't discriminate and give favorable treatment to some organizations and not others.

Sorry if the Stephens Media website for Arkansas News lied to me, but calm down folks.
http://arkansasnews.com/partners.html
"Arkansas News Bureau
a Stephens Media Group Company
Content Partners
The Morning News
Southwest Times-Record
Pine Bluff Commercial
Arkansas Times
The Benton Courier
The Jonesboro Sun
Log Cabin Democrat
The Leader"
P.S. to an observer: Don't let facts get in the way of your emotions. By all means, rant & rave.

James Boulder,

If this just happened today, then it would take more than a few minutes to file a lawsuit or submit an ethics complaint. But smart enough you are, [sic] to know that by just putting out there it accomplishes your goal of clouding the issue and you don't really have to do anything that might prove you wrong. Not very sly.

Max 's Rag is not a newspaper. He has to give it away free to get anyone to even look at it.. The Demozette has the second biggest commie in town, Gene Lyons, writing a column for them. To be a real newspaper you should have a conservative writer to offset all your Commies. Whatever you pay old Ernie Dumas is way too much. The Governor should sue you for all the stupid things you say about him....but it helped him get elected three times...so keep it up Lazy Boy...

...However, if you thought you really had him, this would have already been filed in court or with the ethics folks. But smart enough you are, to know that by just putting it out there it accomplishes your goal of smearing the Gov...

My gosh, we know that the Times is quick but your time expectation is just silly, and definitely inconclusive in determining the right or wrong of this issue.

The Governor is smearing himself. Itâ?Ts Huckabee who made the decision to be a small, petty and un-statesmanlike governor. The Times is is doing its job correctly; and more than likely thatâ?Ts the impetus of Huckâ?Ts actions.

This really is a no-brainer.

I had my facts straight. Obviously you're not letting the facts get in the way of your dumbassery if you don't know how to differentiate between what's "a Stephens Media Group Company" and a content partner, which the list you quoted clearly shows.

Again I say: Dumbass.

This really is a no-brainer.

A necessary requirement for you, swoozie.

Congratulations, Times, you're slowly picking up national exposure.

It's only a matter of time now.

Amongst the people who care about these things, is the Arkansas Times (and the online content it provides) anything less than the preeminent source of political news in Arkansas?

Are Max Brantley, Ernie Dumas, and Dean John Brummett anything less than the essential reporters on what goes on at the State Capitol?

Is Governor Huckabee anything less than a petty Spielverderber?

Hmmm. Sounds like something Clay Henry would do if he were governor.

this is not a surprise. people in the advertising business will tell you that Mike Huckabee
has pressured agencies who have state business to not advertise in the Arkansas Times. It is no different than what happened to Daisy Bates and her newspaper in the 1950's. the good news is that Huckabee will soon be gone and Alice Stewart (the worst press secretary in modern history) will be on the streets running...or hanging out at Ouachita sucking up to Rex Horne.

this is not a surprise. people in the advertising business will tell you that Mike Huckabee
has pressured agencies who have state business to not advertise in the Arkansas Times. It is no different than what happened to Daisy Bates and her newspaper in the 1950's. the good news is that Huckabee will soon be gone and Alice Stewart (the worst press secretary in modern history) will be on the streets running...or hanging out at Ouachita sucking up to Rex Horne.

So, the AT is a partner of the Stephens Group? Blog, is that accurate?

ARK. BLOG: We've explained this several times before. We are an independent newspaper. Stephens Media has no ownership interest. We pay them to run John Brummett's column. We have agreements as "content partners," which means mainly that we are allowed to post headlines from their Capitol bureau on our website and they provide a link to our website on their website.

The word "arrogant" comes to mind, as it has many times regarding our chief executive at the national level... I can't understand how these people get into office....

Just in case anyone's still confused, here's a list of the Arkansas newspapers that Stephens Media owns (http://www.stephensmedia.com/newspapers/)

Arkansas

? Booneville Democrat - Booneville, AR
? Charleston Express - Charleston, AR
? Fayetteville Free Weekly - Fayetteville, AR
? Greenwood Democrat - Greenwood, AR
? Morning News of Northwest Arkansas - Springdale, AR
? Paris Express - Paris, AR
? Pine Bluff Commercial - Pine Bluff, AR
- The Market Place
- The White Hall Progress
? The Maumelle Monitor - AR
? Press Argus Courier - Van Buren, AR
- Alma Journal
? The Times - North Little Rock, AR
? Southwest Times Record - Fort Smith, AR
? Van Buren County Democrat - Clinton AR
? Washington County Newspapers:
- The Farmington Post
- The Lincoln Leader
- The Prairie Grove Enterprise

This is what happens when the goverment hires a evident rabid BIASED christain to run the press office .alice stewart is a JOKE .miss if it bleeds it leads is a travesty to real press reporting..

You are not a reliable news source publishing opinions and rumors , gossip, ect. Not long ago the Editor called a legislator to find out if a rumor being spread around the Capitol was true so he could do a huge spread on the story. He threatened to call the Capitol Police to see if he could get a "police report" allegedly documenting the rumor. There was no police report and the rumor was not true- how pitiful is that!......Grow some balls and report on policies and laws being passed and hire some damn good journalists with intelligence enough to stay away from the petty stuff.

ARK. BLOG: We check all kinds of rumors Mr. Legislator. In that case, as you well know, we didn't publish anything because it didn't check out. We doubt we were the only medium to inquire.

Welcome to our "new" nation - which is being run by a fascist cult. If you don't believe it, just watch how they rationalize treason in the WH or anything that shows the cult in a bad light.

No opposing opinions allowed. Get used to it. We are just getting started down this road, it will get much worse.

Anyone stand with you?

I think it goes like this...

First They Came for the Jews
First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

hire jeff gannon...

...

It isn't so hard to get the briefing. Just do it back channel through a group of concerned citizens who sign up and mail it to you, and get more than one e-mail sender to send it to you, thus avoiding any claim of "making things up."

We have heard that Huck wants to be the next "Dubya." America cannot afford any more "Dubya" lunacy.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 27, 2006 03:26 PM

Blah blah blah communist blah bluh blub commies yadda yadda pinkoes.

Get some new material, jizzbucket.

This is also being linked by 'Crooks and Liars'...a national progressive blog/website. You go, Arkansas Times! The arrogance of the current corrupt cabal of corporate criminals who are running this nation (and whose lapdog, HuckBuck would move heaven and earth to emulate)...is astounding. I am continually amazed at the absolute blind ignorance of the poor idiots who buy into their bullshit... Like the fool that said that the Arkansas Times is 'left leaning'...Hello? Have you read the DemZette lately?? Dear God! Your stupidity is surpassed only by your willingness to spout the party line.

FOI! ...Remember....'FREEDOM'?? OF 'INFORMATION'???

Why would ANY branch on ANY level of our government attempt to TAKE AWAY that 'Freedom of Information'?

One of my current favorite quotes is from Adolf Hitler:

'...How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.'

Posted by: Anonymous | April 27, 2006 03:26 PM

Blah blah blah communist blah bluh blub commies yadda yadda pinkoes.

Get some new material, jizzbucket.
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You got that right. How do you address people who operate like a trained cultees, barking the spin.

You know, Rush trains his cult 3 hours a day, five days a week. Koresh didn't talk to his cult that much.

"commie commie commie" Geez. Liberals today have the same agenda Barry Godlwater had 25 years ago. The country goes deeper and deeper into the death spiral and the these trained dogs just yap as they are told. Sickest thing about is that are trained to think they patriotic.
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http://www.azcentral.com/specials/special25/articles/0531goldwater2.html

Conservative pioneer became an outcast

Michael Murphy
The Arizona Republic
May. 31, 1998 12:00 PM

In 1996, Barry Goldwater sat in his Paradise Valley home with Bob Dole and joked about his strange new standing as a GOP outsider. ..
He confounded them on many issues:

* In 1981, Goldwater assailed the founder of the Moral Majority, the Rev. Jerry Falwell. Responding to Falwell's statement that all good Christians should be concerned about the Supreme Court nomination of Arizonan Sandra Day O'Connor, he said, ''I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass.'' ..

In 1989, Goldwater said the Republican Party had been taken over by a ''bunch of kooks,'' a reference to forces supporting TV evangelist Pat Robertson and Mecham. ...

Goldwater may have put it best in 1992, when he revealed his contempt for a new conservative movement focused on fellow Republican Jesse Helms of North Carolina.

''I don't like being called the New Right; I'm an old, old son-of-a-bitch. I'm a conservative,'' he said

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE must prevail again in Americ

The question to be posed is this: When he was trying to hawk his "book" full o'falsehoods about losing weight, did he call on the Ark Times to publish an article?

If he did...then enough said.

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