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This should be good for, what, a dozen or so posts from the pathological Dr. Strangelove?

We have to be understanding with Dr. Strangelove. He finally got to calm down during the Cold War years, when he realized he could learn to stop worrying and love the bomb. Mutually Assured Destruction meant he really didn't have to worry about the Russians...as much.

But what's he to do about the Mexicans. Nuclear annihilation can't stop them from coming any more that it can get rid of la cucaracha.

He can't bomb an American city just to get rid of Hillary.

Now his own party hands our ports over to the Arabs, opens up the borders, forgives law-breaking illegal immigrants, runs up the highest debt in history, and they have years left to screw up even more.

What's a guy to do?

You can imagine his frustration.

The horror.

On the other hand, he may be feeling really special right now--his name in lights, as it were, on the despicable AT blog. Hell, that almost qualifies him as a martyr. Bet he can't wait to tell his coffeeshop buddies.

But about Hillary. An effusively supportive NYT piece can't be hurting her chances at either her NY senator race or the other one we dare not mention--yet. Wait and see.

Bet he can't wait to tell his coffeeshop buddies. Posted by: widj

Huh. I never thought of Strangelove having buddies. He doesn't seem the type. I picture him as a lonely, very unhappy person, sour on life since the rest of us can't see the wisdom of his logic.

You can imagine his frustration.

The horror.

It's kind of unprecedented for you guys to slam a poster. I mean, is that really called for? Regardless of whether you agree with his politics, he frequents the board, which runs your numbers up, which allows you to sell ads to lingerie companies and women who advertise real estate on their cleavage.

Is it possible for a left-leaner to oppose Hillary? Her rightwing critics tend to galvanize her liberal support. But surely her various positions on pro-insurance health care, pro-Iraq war, anti-flag burning leave some room for reasonable liberals to oppose this icon.

I'm telling you, George "Haditha" Bush has screwed up so badly that we could win the White House in 2008 by running Barney Frank.

Quite simply, Hillary will win by a landslide. So Dr. better stock up on vodka and Percodan. If he's unhappy now, he'll be the next Ted Bundy after November, 2008. I wish I could work up some sympathy for his type........no I don't.

It's kind of unprecedented for you guys to slam a poster. I mean, is that really called for? Posted by: Prouster

Come on, let's slam Proudster next. Where's Zelda?

It's kind of unprecedented for you guys to slam a poster.

Posted by: Prouster | May 31, 2006 10:30 PM

Yeah guys, that's proudster's job. He's the resident a-hole slammer on here.

BottomLine says "reasonable liberals" have room to oppose "this liberal icon." Reasonable liberals, if the term is to be something other than oxymoronic, had best be reasoned in their attitude toward HRC. She ought not be considered "a liberal icon" to begin with, but instead a slightly left of center centrist. She will slaughter her competition in New York but her numbers may in fact be down from '00, if only because some unreasonable libeals will sit on their hands and "punish" her for failing the liberal litmus test. This is the insanity of liberalism today, almost as blindly ideological as today's "conservatism" and rather more self-destructive.

Clinton is at best a moderate; as such she will fail any liberalism test. Now that we've labeled everything, will it help?

"The history of our race, and each individual's experience, are sown thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal." Mark Twain

Hillary Clinton would be a good President. She is smart, she admits her mistakes, she has a sense of humor, and she has been through hell, so she is tough.
However, If I were in her shoes, I would not consider a run for President, because whoever wins is going to have to clean up the biggest pile of crap ever. The Democrat who will win the election will face a multitude of problems to overcome, thanks to THE. WORST. PRESIDENT. EVER.

I think *unprecendented* is too much. And slamming the good Dr. is not uncalled for.

As for running the numbers up, and all that jazz...I think this blog has a higher purpose than selling ads. True, The Times has bills to pay and selling ads is one way they do that. I don't know what their policies are, but if The Arkansas Times refused to run an ad for a lingerie company that story would end up in the Times.

Finally, what is with the gross exaggerations of the "I found my dream house" torso ad? The model's top measurement was described by one poster as "double D", and now this person says "cleavage." To my eyes, the model is modestly endowed up top and there is not even a tease of cleavage in the photo.

Leave the poor woman to make her living!

Heh heh. I saw the picture in the next thread only after I posted to this one. Imagine my surprise.

Well, were do I begin. There is so much and so little time.

I am somewhat shocked (due to my incredible loneliness) that none of you are pushing Gore. Isn't he a card carrying liberal? Frankly, conservatives fear him more than we do Hillary.

I recently asked a question that none of you guys answered. WHY do you never bring up Hillary's legislative record when you are touting her credentials for President?

Clinton is at best a moderate; as such she will fail any liberalism test. Now that we've labeled everything, will it help?

How do you explain her very high ADA rating? She at least has accomplished her goal with one person---appearing to be a moderate. Just a problem of losing her base in the process but none of you appear to have departed the fold.

I'm telling you, George "Haditha" Bush has screwed up so badly that we could win the White House in 2008 by running Barney Frank.

I love Barney Frank's politics/personality...He's got my vote.

RE: Doc strange.

I'm sure the good doc fully expects to get blasted for his special love for Hillary. But then I can't believe any one chats on a public blog and doesn't expect to get kicked in the verbal ass.

After all the crap that's gone down the last 5 years, ALL right wingers should expect to be held accountable for what their politics and idiot prez have done to our country. And I'm tired of being nice about it...

Please explain to me what is right wing about Bush? Immigration, Big Government, spending, etc.---these are NOT conservative positions. He is taking big time hits from conservatives right now for pursuing policies that are usually reserved for liberals.

The things that you cite are usually the issues that conservatives take issue with him on. Do you really think that if a liberal democrat gets elected government will shrink or that runaway immigration will diminish or that gasoline prices at the pump will significantly go down?

"However, If I were in her shoes, I would not consider a run for President, because whoever wins is going to have to clean up the biggest pile of crap ever."

Actually, this is the PERFECT time to run for president. I'm thinking of it myself. I mean, where can our country go but up? How can anyone do worse? It'll be easy to do a better job than what's being done now. Whoever wins in 2008 will probably become the "savior" of this early part of the century bringing our country back from the brink of demise.

Hillary, Obama, Gore, Clark, or a well-trained monkey could do better, and we'll be better off because of it. Seriously, if I just had some money I might make a run for it...

I don't know where you got your bogus German monicker, DrSL. The word is spelled "merkwürdig, and it merely means "noteworthy", which is a few cuts short of "strange". The word for you is "seltsam" (with an -e on the end to agree with the feminine grammatical gender of "Liebe").

Tsk. That should be a "u" topped be an umlaut (usually ALT+129, which doesn't seem to work on this blog).

Yes, it probably would be a good time for someone from the democratic party to run. Reminds me of when Jimmy C. ran. There was a lot of disenchantment with Republicans. We all know how Jimmy C turned out.

I don't know where you got your bogus German monicker, DrSL. The word is spelled "merkwürdig, and it merely means "noteworthy", which is a few cuts short of "strange". The word for you is "seltsam" (with an -e on the end to agree with the feminine grammatical gender of "Liebe").

You need to go back to German finishing school. Right on the umlaut, wrong on the translation of 'noteworthy'.

Let's hear more about Bill and that Canadian chick...that's could become a good story...

We all know how Jimmy C. turned out?
OK, correct me if I'm wrong in terms of Jimmy Carter. (I do good to remember yesterday.)
Post Nixon era, he rocked along until Iran seized our embassy. Then came a failed rescue attempt -- all of this leading up to an election in which Ronald Reagan was the Republican nominee. My recollection of the time was that the Iranian powers that were (and now apparently are) made a "deal" with the American people: Elect Reagan and we will release the captives.
And we did. And they did. And the Republican agenda got a lovely boost, including no more 5% interest on savings accounts, no more overtime over eight hours and other such niceties.
What followed? Well, I remember the savings and loan crisis well. And now we have nurses, among many other working stiffs putting 12 hour (or more) days.
Progress?

Obviously there is a severe case of amnesia relative to Mr. Carter.

Double digit inflation, double digit mortgage rates and gas rationing are three that I remember right off the bat.

How about the taking of an American embassy and holding those folks until the day that Reagan took office.

Democrats and Republicans were anxious to get that clown out of office. I won't even mention other embarassments like having his wife attend cabinet meetings. I wouldn't try to defend that mess if I were you.

DrSL--

You bring up a very good point. I think many of our friends on here are so blinded by the Iraq War and what has ensued, that is all they associate with Pres. Bush, and thus, the right-wing label.

They fail to take into account such things as you mention. And these are the reasons that Pres. Bush's ratings have gone lower and lower. It isn't because more and more people are leaving to become Democrats (liberals decided a long time ago they did not like Pres. Bush), it's because his base of fiscal conservatives and libertarians are leaving in droves. His numbers among self-identified "conservatives" are at an all-time low and sinking.

And yes, some of that is very definitely related to the immigration debate. It is certainly true the xenophobes are also retreating from the President, but when you dig into the numbers you find his erosion with the traditional small-gov't Repubs is astounding.

Hog Snout---Bingo!

The divide that exists today is not between Republicans and Democrats, liberals and conservatives. The greatest divide that exists today is between the ruling elites in Washington and the people. I think that immigration may have been the catalyst but more is involved.

For those of you who think that conservatives are so doctrinaire about the Republican Party that they would support them in an election regardless digest this.

The only hope for the Republican Party is to lose big in November. I hope that happens. Only by a sound defeat will they reassess their direction and leadership.

The party leadership is assuming that the base will vote for a republican just to keep the dems out. I hope they are wrong. If Repubs hold on to their position of power in Congress they will continue on their current road.

I am not wild about Pelosi and Reid but we may have to endure that in order to save the party in the long run.

...The things that you cite are usually the issues that conservatives take issue with him on.

Well, pardon the skepticism but it'll take me awhile to give credence to anything 'political' from any Republican and/or Bush supporter. It's not that 'you'll' can't overcome your sinful ways, it's that it will take lots of time/hard work to overcome enabling monkeyboy.

Do you really think that if a liberal democrat gets elected government will shrink or that runaway immigration will diminish or that gasoline prices at the pump will significantly go down?

At the very least, a liberal Democrat will slow down the havoc wreaked from monkeyboy's evil ways. At the very least, another few years of this kind of Republican rule will...I can't even fathom.

"Senator Hillary Clinton is using a new campaign video to boast that she's delivered on her promise to bring economic development to upstate New York - even though the region has actually lost tens of thousands of jobs since she was elected."

Something else for you Hillary fans to crunch on. She promised 200,000 jobs and NY state actually lost 40,000 jobs since she was elected.

"Well, pardon the skepticism but it'll take me awhile to give credence to anything 'political' from any Republican and/or Bush supporter. It's not that 'you'll' can't overcome your sinful ways, it's that it will take lots of time/hard work to overcome enabling monkeyboy. "

I understand your skepticism. I find myself still remembering the words "I never had sex with that woman" and "the vast right wing conspiracy" echoing in my brain even after all of these years.

However, I don't plan on losing a nanosecond of sleep waiting for anyone to acknowledge that.

Before George "Haditha" Bush came along I was transitioning from a Republican to not-a-Republican, not necessarily turning into a Democrat. Actually I looked at both parties as a choice between heart disease or cancer.

And if things ever return to normal I will get back to looking at all politicians like I would a scorpion under my bed. NONE of them are our friends. But since we don't have a viable 3rd party, if you are not voting Republican, you're going to vote Democrat or stay home. Half of America has been choosing to stay home and that helped get us Bush-Cheney.

I will be trotting out and voting for every Democrat I can find in the next election. But if the Republican Party ever wants me back, they should start now distancing themselves from Bush, Cheney, Frist, Santorum, Dr. Dobson, Coulter, O'Reilly and Fox News. Those people aren't conservatives, they're freakin nut cases.

I think what Dr. Strange is saying is that George "Haditha" Bush is no more a Republican than Joe Biden. I've been saying for a while that Bush is a Party of One. No Republican I ever knew acted like Bush. As evil as the Nixon and Reagan administration seem to me now, they had little to do with the Bush-Cheney brand of Republicanism.

If I was a big Republican I'd start screaming "Bush ain't no Republican" at the top of my lungs now and hope on down the road 8 or 10 years it might help bring back the Republican Party. There must be at least 2 strong political parties in America. With only one strong one, there is no one powerful enough to keep them from robbing and raping like Bush-Cheney has done for over 5 years now.

The Republican Party was OK when it was populated by people who leaned left, middle and right. The all rightwing, all the time, stuff coupled with the insanely criminal acts of Bush-Cheney, which heretofore were only associated with the likes of the Nazi Party has ruined the Republican Party and damn near ruined the world.

DBI---you were once a republican? I think it would be easier for Bush to try and sell himself as a card carrying 'Friends of Bill' than for you to convince me of that. The SDS would be more akin to your way of thinking.

Even the Rockefellow wing of the RINO would not be able to absorb you. Try something else.

Both parties get their money and their volunteers from the fringe and win elections by appealing to the center. They have to run a nut to get the fringe support and then hide from the electorate with a negative campaign. The fringe issues take all of the oxygen out to the room so that good government issues can be ignored and sold off to the monied interests.

So keep up the win at all cost propaganda, no compromise please. It is just a sign that we really have no problems that need solving.

I am somewhat shocked (due to my incredible loneliness) that none of you are pushing Gore. Posted by: Dr. Strange-Merk

I don't know anybody who has ever been high on Gore. He's just not inspiring and he never will be. I think Max has said much the same a while back regarding Gen. Clark.

Actually, Gore would probably make a competent, even good President. Certainly head and shoulders above what we have now. And he pert-near won the office once. But it wasn't due to any special popularity among his party. He didn't inspire a lot of people to head to the polls on election day. Neither did Kerry.

I'd support Hillary strongly, but I'd really like to see Joe Biden run.

I'd support Hillary strongly, but I'd really like to see Joe Biden run.

You really think that Biden is an original thinker? If Liberman ran he would make a better candidate in terms of attracting disenchanted Republicans. Biden makes me gag. He would simply plagarize himself into the Presidency.

Gore would make the best President, no doubt about it. But he had his chance and blew it by not asking Clinton to help and by not sticking to his guns in Florida.

Joe Biden is the John McCain of the Democratic Party. Joe loves to hear himself speak, but often after he has pulled his male peacock routine, he'll go vote with the Republicans. He is dead to me.

Lieberman is the Joe Biden and the John McCain of both the Democratic and Republican Parties. If I ever met him, I'd give him such a smack!

Though I'd rather have Gore or Feingold over Hillary, I'll take Hillary and be happy for 8 years. Now that Bush has jimmied every law in the White House's favor, Hillary can really make hay when she returns to her old digs. With Bill's help and 2 terms, she might be able to undo half the damage of Bush-Cheney by the time she leaves office. Maybe by then Congress will change the laws and Bill can make another run in 2016

By the time he dies in office we might be back to where we were prior to January, 2001. I had hoped to see more progress before I died, but you don't always get what you want. At least my kids will benefit from back to back 16 years of Clintons in the White House. And that's a good thing.

You are assuming that this country will exist. You really shouldn't do that. Babylon, Persia, Rome, Greece, Britain---all of these empires finally came to an end. The rot within eventually destroys.

I'm not talking about the 'rot' as being a political figure or a political party. That would be your limited view. The rot is in us. No culture ever recognizes it even when it is too late.

You really think that Biden is an original thinker? Posted by: Dr. Strangelove

Where did I say that? I don't care where he gets his thoughts as long as the advice he gets is good. And I like what he gets. If he never had a single thought of his own, he'd be a lot better than the thoughts GW gets from Cheney.

If Lieberman ran he would make a better candidate in terms of attracting disenchanted Republicans.

Glad you're looking for a Democrat to vote for, but I wouldn't want Lieberman. Too conservative. I didn't realize that when he ran for VP, but I've wised up to him now. You can have him.

Biden makes me gag.

I thought that might be the case, which was at least 50% of the reason I mentioned him!

He would simply plagarize himself into the Presidency.

People have attained the Presidency through even worse sins. But you mentioning Biden's plagiarizing, repeatedly, is so typical of those on here who throw out Monica again every time Clinton is mentioned, or throw out national health insurance every time Hillary is mentioned, or throw out Wayne Dumond every time Huckabee is mentioned. I thought you were the one advocating original thought at the top of this post.

Liberal and Proud: Make no mistake about it, I will vote for Hillary if she runs. I was just making the point that whoever wins (and that "whoever" is going to be Democrat) is going to have a tough go of it. I do think Hillary is up to the task.

Original thought does not mean I should become stupid and forget lessons learned. History has taught some of us that.

If someone demostrates a pattern of poor behavior it would be imprudent to ignore it. The Libermans are becoming 'persona non grata' in the democratic party just as I believe Hubert Humphrey would be today if he were around.

It is the reason why the demos have not been able to capitalize on a situation that has been handed to them on a silver platter. You should be pulverizing repubs but you can't. The public is as turned off by demos as they are repubs.

Keep embracing Hillary. I don't have a problem with that.

...I understand your skepticism. I find myself still remembering the words "I never had sex with that woman" and "the vast right wing conspiracy" echoing in my brain even after all of these years.

But you're talking about politician's words and I'm talking about the veracity of so-called 'real' conservatives professing to not 'really' like Bush's brand of Republicanism. To have had a so-called change of heart regarding the Bush presidency. It's like the specifics of the Bush et al crime/crap/lie/blah blah don't matter as long as ya toss in an equal part Democratic sin. Well, I think it all stinks; and I think your Bush mea culpa isn't real.

I'm not going to defend Clinton's words. I didn't say them nor defend them. The word gymnastics that were used to splain 'is' we're absurd, insulting and certainly didn't help him.

The one really bad choice Bill Clinton make was picking Al Gore for VP. But I realize it was a purely political choice to getting elected. This jerk paid him back by not using his talents and then went and picked a Jew for a running mate. Not that I am against Jews but the mess in the middle east has to be solved before Joe can think straight.

Bidden would be my choice until I saw Sabin's piece about the worst generation. To face reality we have to realize the propaganda forced on the baby boomers by that new fangled thing called the TV-industrial complex. Every day we get closer to the richest one-hundred of one percent controlling the entire wealth of the USA.

I believe that baby boomer Hillary is not so rich and is the only one running so far that has understood this and can win the votes of the worst.

"I believe that baby boomer Hillary is not so rich and is the only one running so far that has understood this and can win the votes of the worst."

What is your definition of 'rich'? She is worth millions.

"... I think your Bush mea culpa isn't real."

Oh, dear. I won't get any sleep tonight!

"The one really bad choice Bill Clinton make was picking Al Gore for VP. "

What was Monica---a good choice?

"DBI---you were once a republican?"

Yes he was. He refers to that quite often on this here ol' blog. Those of us who've been reading it for over a year could tell you all sorts of stories he's posted. ;) That's one of the things I like most about him - he's seen the error of his ways and tried to make amends.

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"Make no mistake about it, I will vote for Hillary if she runs. I was just making the point that whoever wins (and that "whoever" is going to be Democrat) is going to have a tough go of it. I do think Hillary is up to the task."

I agree with you, Paula. It will be a tough go of it. Most of the world hates us, we're paying $2.50+ a gallon, we're building a FENCE on our border, troops die every day for the phantom WMDs, and now Iran...

But, we can't do any worse, right? Picking up the pieces will be a heavy weight on someone's shoulders, but think of how good he/she will look and how much better off we'll be.

Even Strangelove is getting bored with Billary

How I love you brain drained TV industrial complex dummies.

"What is your definition of 'rich'? She is worth millions."
Posted by: Dr. Strangelove | June 1, 2006 01:39 PM

You will never understand the difference of deserving earning money and being a dumb ass inheirident.

What was Monica---a good choice?
Posted by: Anonymous | June 1, 2006 02:08 PM

You'll never know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~!.

Oh, dear. I won't get any sleep tonight! Posted by: Dr. Strangelove

OK, now I won't be able to sleep either, worrying about Strangelove at 2 AM here posting till his heart's content with nobody online to refute it. We may need to start appointing a night watch. Preferably someone Hispanic.