Searching congressional offices
Even Republicans in Congress think the Bush administration has gone too far on executive powers now. Rooting around in Capitol offices?

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The legislature and the courts need to understand that we are ruled by the executive branch. Our forefathers clearly intended the President to be King. God save President Bush, and let us be thankful for his wisdom, his ability to heal people and bring them together, and his attention to the poor and marginalized.
Posted by: Roland | May 24, 2006 06:08 AM
Even Newt thought it was too much! Add veiled intimidation of Congress to the intimidation of the press.
Takes a lot of damn gall for the A.G. to go after lawbreakers when he is part and parcel of a criminal enterprise.
Posted by: Gaylord | May 24, 2006 06:11 AM
Is congress bitching about being treated the same as their constituents are?
Are they entitled to more dignity then the obviously lower classes?
Hey, if they can't watch the film and take a joke.....
Posted by: pj | May 24, 2006 06:43 AM
While the nation's indignation is on the rise, our loyal opposition runs for cover armed with bullshit.
JELLOCRATS will save the day NOT.
Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2006 06:55 AM
There is this quaint and outdated concept called separation of powers. Bust the crook if the goods are there. But this was much more than that, it was utter contempt of Congress, a show of force designed to intimidate. Par for the course with Duh Furher.
Posted by: Gaylord | May 24, 2006 06:59 AM
Gaylord, spread your negativism if you must, but please never compare greed, secrecy or contempt with genocide.
Posted by: moose | May 24, 2006 08:08 AM
You seem to be the one who reached a presumptuous assumption. Comparisons to Nazi genocide should never be off the table, whether made in a serious vein or not. And there happens to be hundreds of millions world wide who think our military actions are just that - genocide.
Posted by: Gaylord | May 24, 2006 08:16 AM
When did Congress become a group of untouchables.. Lock em up and throw away the keys. I don't think being a member of Congress entitles one to be out of the reach of the law.
Posted by: saywhat | May 24, 2006 08:39 AM
Members of Congress are not above the law, as DeLay will testify.
This is akin to the Capitol Police storming into the White House with the chairman of the Senate Judiciary serving a warrant on Rove. That is not done in a form of government where strict rules of separation of powers were established from the very beginning.
Posted by: Gaylord | May 24, 2006 08:50 AM
"FBI agents storming into Congressional offices for the first time in American history, Attorney General "Speedy" Gonzales threatening U.S. journalists with prison, political manipulation of a Special Counsel investigating a damaging CIA leak, and the list goes on and on. Had enough yet?"
---WMReport
Posted by: Cato | May 24, 2006 08:51 AM
Yes, I think that members of Congress should be immune to search and seizures in their Congressional offices. They need to know that they can do anything that pleases their little old hearts. Of course, they would never take advantage of this. I mean, they aren't above the law so they would never do anything improper relative to that priviledge. Right?l
Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2006 08:57 AM
If you idiots realized it, we're a Republic, not a Democracy. We elect the President to run our country, and then we leave him alone to do it. If you weren't comfortable with making Congress and the Supreme Court subordinate to the Executive branch, then you shouldn't have voted for Bush.
Posted by: Classic Conservative | May 24, 2006 08:58 AM
I think it would be a very good thing to have the police search ALL the offices of Democrats to look for treasonable documents. The Executive Branch needs to start proactively supporting the law.
I say bring every Democrat (ie. known terrorist supporter) in for questioning -- if they've done nothing wrong, then they have nothing to worry about.
Let's see how long they stick up for their party after disappearing to spend a few days in Gitmo. Holing up in their offices ain't going to work any longer.
Posted by: Classic Conservative II | May 24, 2006 09:02 AM
If you idiots realized it, we're a Republic, not a Democracy. We elect the President to run our country, and then we leave him alone to do it.
Well this idiot thought the president was still accountable to a higher entities: the Law/Constitution. And, the law says we're not suppose to leave law-breakers alone to continue breaking the law...no matter how important their job happens to be.
If you weren't comfortable with making Congress and the Supreme Court subordinate to the Executive branch, then you shouldn't have voted for Bush.
The majority of us didn't vote for Bush in 2000; but even if he'd won by a landslide that didn't give him the right to toss aside all those legal niceties every time he sees fit. And, the last time I checked the Court and Congress were not subordinate to any president. They're supposed to serve as check/balance entities to King George. Don't mistake the actions of this Republican Senate/House as affirmation of those institution's designated Constitutional roles. Given the will, both Congress and the Court are capable of trumping any president's actions.
Posted by: zelda | May 24, 2006 09:35 AM
Great logic, Zelda. Any time the executive branch feels it has probable cause, it certainly should be able to search congressional offices. Or arrest them on the floor, if appropriate.
Posted by: . | May 24, 2006 09:44 AM
And, the law says we're not suppose to leave law-breakers alone to continue breaking the law
Gee, does that apply to people who enter this country illegally?
Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2006 09:54 AM
Great logic, Zelda. Any time the executive branch feels it has probable cause, it certainly should be able to search congressional offices. Or arrest them on the floor, if appropriate.
If you surmised 'that' from my comments, you're either making a funny or being deliberately obtuse.
My comments were specifically directed toward the president NOT being able to do whatever the hell he wants. The FBI was wrong for searching the Congressman's office; the Bush administration was wrong for allowing the trespass.
Both Bush and Jefferson can be held accountable for their law-breaking without more laws being tossed aside.
Posted by: zelda | May 24, 2006 10:01 AM
And, the law says we're not suppose to leave law-breakers alone to continue breaking the law
Gee, does that apply to people who enter this country illegally?
Yes.
But how about enforcing the law from the top down rather than from the bottom up...for a change.
Posted by: zelda | May 24, 2006 10:04 AM
Hey, how about let's just enforce the law period?
Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2006 10:09 AM
This is a sticky wicket for sure! First of all, if Mr. Jefferson is proved to be guilty of taking bribes and payoffs, I hope they throw him under the jail.
Secondly, isn't it funny that 2 elections have been stolen, we've been lied into a war for oil in Iraq, 2457 of our kids have died in this war, Katrina victims float in the nasty water for 2 and 1/2 days unnoticed, the White House outs a CIA agent, gas goes to 3 bucks a gallon while we're under the rule of 2 old oil men, and it appears plans to bomb Iran are going ahead at full speed and Congress seems to pay very little attention.
Yet, let the FBI show up at a Congressman's office on a sunny day to look into the files and suddenly Congress is wide awake and fighting mad. Ladies and gentlemen, where have you been for the last 5 years?
How many other "1st time in American history" tricks has Bush-Cheney pulled while Congress slept? What about those 750 signing laws? What about secret meetings between big oil and Cheney, mapping out our country's energy policies, that are obviously not working for you and me? What about America adopting a 1st strike mentality? What about NSA wire tapping? What about kidnapping and torture? What about secret black site prisons in Eastern Europe?
Yesterday the Supreme Court said if a cop looks in your window and sees you doing something wrong, they don't need no stinkin search warrant. While we worried about Halter and Holt, we just lost one of the big reasons America isn't Iran.
Dudes, they can march into your bedroom now by saying they saw you raise your fist to your wife. So what if the cop needs glasses, a big chunk of our freedom just walked out the door. The dictatorship is almost accomplished.
What outrage will Bush think of next? They already listen to our phone calls, read our email, probably our snail mail too. Now they can walk in our houses and Congressional offices without a paper in their hands. They've spent all the money the next 3 generations will ever make. They've attacked an innocent country, killed many thousands of their women and children. They've turned the White House into one big Exxon station. They're going to kill our kids on the soil of Iraq as long as they want........
How could Bush-Cheney have a single supporter today? How could any of you be deranged enough to go to the polls and cast a vote for any Republicans? Are you so stupid that you'd take cakes to the Mafia? Knit a new head scarf for Osama? Let Abramoff hold your wallet?
We have to stop Bush now! Then we have to bring Congress back to earth by getting rid of all the fringe benefits they've created for themselves. The "I Can You Can't" crap has to stop. We need to clear out every crooked politician in America, Democrat or Republican. We have to totally revamp our election system and our system of government because our friends in Congress and the White House have screwed every pooch there is and we're seriously close to a melt down.
Wake up! Be Smarter! Think Harder! Our country is going away while we sit on our hands. Our own Senators are silent sell outs, so we have to depend on ourselves or die. It's almost too late.
Posted by: Deathbyinches | May 24, 2006 10:18 AM
State secrets privilege slams door on civil suits
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0605240153may24,1,6508713.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
A suit filed this week in Chicago by author Studs Terkel and others accusing AT&T of invading its customers' privacy by sharing phone records with the National Security Agency could provide the next test of whether the Bush administration employs a once-rare tactic that essentially gives the government a blank check to kill civil suits. Earlier this month, Justice Department lawyers intervened in an invasion-of-privacy suit in San Francisco against AT&T and asserted what is known as the state secrets privilege by asking a judge to dismiss the case because they said allowing it to go forward would compromise national security. The government has repeatedly invoked the state secrets privilege to head off challenges to two of the most sensitive aspects of the administration's war on terror--domestic electronic surveillance and so-called extraordinary renditions.
RELATED: NSA secrecy makes investigation impossible, FCC says
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-23-fcc-nsa_x.htm
Posted by: RLR | May 24, 2006 10:26 AM
Most days I am beyond giving a damn. I feel like weeping today.
They voted to confirm the fucking NSA spying criminal Hayden today.
Does the loyal opposition have a plan that I don't know about?
No, they don't. It's a bit insane. Quite a bit, really. As this confirmation shows, Congress can't think in terms of right and wrong anymore, or it would have been impossible. Political positioning has trumped honesty, which is a polite way of saying fantasy has trumped reality. Like the loyal majority, the loyal opposition has a delusion instead of a plan. Expecting crazy people to make rational decisions will make you crazy too. Calling it evil leaves you trying to get mental cases to understand right and wrong.
I fear for us all.
RLR
Posted by: RLR | May 24, 2006 11:05 AM
Don't like guys in uniform?
Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2006 11:16 AM
I love it! It would seem that the old "...he's only a democrat..." line doesn't have the assurance for the CCRRR senators and representatives it once did.
Posted by: docholliday | May 24, 2006 12:49 PM
Haster is complaining. I would tell him as a conservative Republican---no one is above the law. The constitution does not shield you from criminal activity. Worry about doing your job and let the law deal with law breakers.
Posted by: Dr. Strangelove | May 24, 2006 01:37 PM
Hey, do you think the Republicans don't like it because of all the dirty dealings THEY have done and are doing that could be found by them being snooped on? Could the realization that things are out of hand be dawning on them? Could they be realizing that the defense of "I'm not doing anything wrong" is not going to cut it?
Suddenly, they are finding out what it is like to be crapped on by the folks that are going drunk with power. Suddenly, they are possibly (I hope) beginning to realize just how out there the white house is.
Posted by: rablib | May 24, 2006 02:20 PM
...How many other "1st time in American history" tricks has Bush-Cheney pulled while Congress slept?...
I've lost track...and have to fight the incapacitating numbness every day. It's like David has to engage Goliath all day every day.
With the placement of Hayden, Cheney/Rummy have pretty much wrapped up their grab for power over those few rogue intelligence guys/gals who dared go against their pre-war WMD assertions.
Any government employee who's stood against their crap, regardless of the truth, has either been run out of government or been politically neutered in one way or another...General Shinseki is but one example.
Posted by: zelda | May 24, 2006 02:31 PM
Sorry, Zelda! I misread part of your post.
Posted by: . | May 24, 2006 02:45 PM
"Suddenly, they are finding out what it is like to be crapped on by the folks that are going drunk with power. Suddenly, they are possibly (I hope) beginning to realize just how out there the white house is."
Hey, genius, being drunk with power is a human condition. It is not confined to a political party or a political philosophy. I have lived long enough to see it happen to both parties so please don't lecture us on the nobility of Democrats. Power corrupts absolutely.
Posted by: Anonymous | May 24, 2006 03:23 PM
Sorry, Zelda! I misread part of your post.
Well, my post could've been clearer. Sometimes it's hard to translate what I'm thinking into understandable words...especially when in a hurry.
Posted by: zelda | May 24, 2006 04:03 PM
"We elect the President ..."
Who is this "we," Classic Conservative? You certainly are not suggesting the people elect the president, are you? If so, Al Gore was the pick of the people but the so called "conservatives" SELECTED the president. I think you know better.
Posted by: Cato | May 24, 2006 08:32 PM
Who is this "we," Classic Conservative? You certainly are not suggesting the people elect the president, are you? If so, Al Gore was the pick of the people but the so called "conservatives" SELECTED the president. I think you know better.
You hear this nonsense repeated ad nauseum. SEVERAL independent recounts were done by every kind of political persuasion that exists and NOT ONE found that the vote results were incorrect. NOT ONE. Bush won the Electoral vote and was certified President in accordance with the Constitution of the United States not in accordance with Moveon.org.
Posted by: Dr. Strangelove | May 25, 2006 07:50 AM
ringtones free
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