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Another day, more erosions of liberty. Like government use of data brokers to get telephone records without warrants. Like warrantless snooping through international financial transactions. But, hey, it's war. And you know you can trust the Bush administration not to abuse sensitive information.

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And when has Bush abused information?

And when has Bush abused information?
Posted by: Anonymous

How about when in August 2001 when he went off and hid when he knew an attack was coming and then projecting his demoralization on Iraq.

So, you don't have anything to say about Acxiom doing this for a living, which is legal, but you do have a problem with the government doing it, which is also legal? Why should it be legal for a private company to data mine private databases for a profit and yet illegal for the government to do it for national security reasons? I suspect you don't like private business doing it either, but you should seek to make it illegal for everyone then, and see what the American people think about your attempts. So far, your party has had no real plan to defend America, just attempts to hinder real protection of America.

The 12:17 comment makes a great point: When has Bush abused any information? Out the millions and millions of records they are mining, do you really think they have time to pick out your phone records and ruin your life? It hasn't happened and it won't. Besides, if I wanted to, I could pay Acxiom, or some similar company, for the same privilege and do it, myself.

You were quiet as church mice about this, when Bill Clinton inaugurated Echelon. Now that it's George Bush and he's actually doing something to defend our national security, you're crying like banshees. Again, I thank you for showing the American people who you are, so they can keep voting for the party they can trust with national security.

Thanks, "Phaedrus", just as unoriginal as the original. Sometimes I can't believe our good fortune to have adversaries like you. Your kookiness makes it so easy to win elections. Seriously, though, you should keep it up. You're much more entertaining this way.

How about when in August 2001 when he went off and hid when he knew an attack was coming and then projecting his demoralization on Iraq.


And your proof? You might be referring to 'Able Danger' that disclosed that Bill Clinton's administration knew about this but created a wall between the intelligence community and the FBI that could have prevented it.

hmm.

"secretly" going through our bank data while brother Marvin has software in the banking industry (USA Patriot Act)...right.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/23/washington/23intel.html?_r=1&th=&oref=slogin&emc=th&pagewanted=print
June 23, 2006

Bank Data Is Sifted by U.S. in Secret to Block Terror

oh you crazy liberalz and your "bill of rights"

y do u hate amerika

oh you crazy liberalz and your "bill of rights"

That isn't quite true. They don't like the 2nd Amendment.

I am awaiting notice to show up for my permanent anal probe, you know it's coming. Osama really did win. One bearded, cave dwelling, goofball changed America forever.

Like switching Auntie's pills, America has turned into a paranoid, vindictive, vicious, pit-bull dog country. Half the population support probing, the other half horrified and wanting to flee. 9-11 is now an excuse to rape your own sister, steal from your workplace, turn in your neighbor, build a fence around our country, according to Asa, build a fence around Arkansas.

Now the government thinks it has the right to dig in all aspects of your private life. Privacy like that other P word, Pterodactyl is extinct, as are budgets, laws, honor, compassion and tradition. Government has now replaced God, rock stars and movie stars as an object of worship. Talent-less little people more suited to selling steel siding are suddenly our suns that life revolves around.

How sad the country responsible for the Peace Corp, the Red Cross, and Radio Free Europe is now known for it's cutting edge torture techniques, black site prisons, and pre-emptive wars, as we make the latest attempt at world domination.

America, that let's black people drown in New Orleans, that currently plans a new Disney version of that city, minus the blacks and the poor. America, leading the way in Haditha type ethnic cleansing, a country of stolen elections, puppet governments in Iraq, no bid contracts, tax cuts for the oil industry reaping and raping up the biggest profits in the history of mankind.

How sad Osama has ripped off the last layer of civilization exposing humans for what they really are. Racists, bigots, haters, killers, sheep willing to follow a cartoon character into hell. It's easy to understand why Halliburton loves Bush-Cheney, but so hard to understand why an average working person licks the hand that keeps them down.

Osama brought around the realization that America is out of ideas. Homeland Security just another scam to feed the product of the fascist marriage of government and business. The fattest of the fatted cows. Over 750 signing laws proving Bush is king. Securing our borders, a handy tool of those who hate all non-whites.

It makes me sick to say, but indeed Osama won. On one day he exposed the cancer that's eating it's way thru our nation, that will end the grand experiment in the not too distant future. For 230 years we've prided ourselves in being the very best. Now we're seeing the sad truth that America is hardly better than any Soviet block country from the 60s.

Our future will feature long parades of military vehicles and goose-stepping troops marching past the reviewing stand decorated with giant portraits of Comrade Bush and Cheney. Long speeches commemorating the Revolution of November, 2000. But I don't have to worry, my type will either be dead or wasting away in a gulag. I never liked parades anyway.....

Our future will feature long parades of military vehicles and goose-stepping troops

Funny, when I was in the service during Vietnam they didn't teach us anything about goose-stepping.

DBI, here's you anal probe:

June 23, 2006

White House Demands Dismissal of Spy Suit
By DAVID KRAVETS
ASSOCIATED PRESS

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A lawsuit challenging the Bush administration's domestic spying program must be dismissed because it threatens to reveal state secrets and jeopardize the war on terror, the government says.

The case was set to go before a federal judge in San Francisco on Friday.

The Bush administration argues that the courts cannot decide the constitutionality of the president's asserted wartime powers to eavesdrop on Americans without warrants.

The government is invoking the so-called "state secrets privilege" in a federal lawsuit filed by a privacy group against communications giant AT&T Inc. about the telecom's alleged involvement in Bush's surveillance program adopted after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

"Resolution of those legal issues depends entirely on facts that, in light of their highly classified nature, cannot be made the subject of litigation," the Justice Department wrote in a brief to U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker.

Thanks "Seneca" for the complement. It is just 101, "Anon".

W was the black sheep of the Bush family and could never fit in which can be defined as he was uniformly emotionally deprived.

W is in a bubble can be defined as a further reduction in the always tenuous communication with significant others in his immediate surroundings.

But what is really tragic since Cheney can not stand weakness is how he loathes the guy and will do anything to prove it.

Is that better?

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT PROBE FOILED
Thursday, May 25, 2006 - FreeMarketNews.com

An internal Justice Department inquiry into whether department officials - including Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and then-Attorney General John Ashcroft - acted properly in approving and overseeing the Bush administration's domestic eavesdropping program was stymied because investigators were denied security clearances to do their work. The investigators, however, were only seeking information and documents relating to the National Security Agency's surveillance program that were already in the Justice Department's possession, two senior government officials said in interviews. -National Journal

Roto, we've seen this movie before. We'll never learn another thing and will just have to take their word for it until kingdom come. Probe yourself now and avoid the rush.

Let's see-the Supreme Court feels that it can't hold the Executive to any limits on its activities and the Congress is a rubber stamp for anything that the Executive wants to do without doing any of the oversight that it is charged with by that troublesome document, I think it was called the U S Constitution which used to have a Bill of Rights but we got rid of all of them, except, of course, number 2.

So I guess we really are stuck with King George and I thought that this was what July 4, 1776 was all about.

bin Laden wins. We gave up our own freedoms and as soon as the Republican Party registers as an official religion, I guess we can all go and be baptized in that firetruck in NWA.

The kool-aid is ready. Don't forget to take yours.

You kind of expect presidents to grab all the power they can...some may even believe they're actually doing it for the good of the country. What's astounding about the Kool-Aid crowd, however, is how quickly and completely they've rolled over for the screw.

I honestly wonder if they realize that all these un-checked powers they've endowed Bush with in the name of this un-ending war on terror will carry over to the next Bill Clinton or Kerry or Hillary or...

To all of you, DBI, Fed Up, Rota, Zelda, thank you, my sentiments exactly.
I try not to be crude or rude, but don't you just hate Bushco's "Fuck you and Hurray for ME!" policy-making?

In a thirst for security Americans are drinking from a poisoned well.

there's a bright side. all you smart
young Arkansans who want to
go to law school will no longer
have to study Constitutional Law.

After these birds get done, there will
be nothing left to the Bill of Rights.

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