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Why do they feel the need to comment at all?

And what Scripture passage supports Land's position?

WWJD?

It never occurs to these dumb crackers that they could be the next victims of religious persecution, star chambers and dungeons without keys.

It does occur to the terrorists that if they can make us abandon our Constitution and our moral values then they have won a major battle and a significant step in the war against America.

Don't forget it was an unholy alliance of the most powerful nation on earth and fundamentalist religion that crucified Jesus.

What the heck does this have to do with Christianity??? I think it's about time we start passing laws banning these nuts. Since they want to ban everything they disagree with, let's ban them from having children, forbid them from using the title Christian, allow discrimination against them, ban them from adopting, and on and on......

I can't wait to see these so-called Christians on judgement day. I hope God judges them just as they have judged others.

I thought prisoners of war could be detained as long as the war continued.

Are we technically even in war though?

Did the President and Congress actually declare war?

"Make no mistake about it. We are at war with an enemy that loathes....everything that we stand for as a nation."

And as long as our nation still stands for freedom, still rejects torture, still believes in the right to a fair trial, that enemy is none other than the bunch of thugs occupying the White House and the Congress who lets Bushco break every law in the land.

I am a lot more afraid of this bunch of crooks and what their actions have done to us as a nation than I am about anybody detained at Gitmo.

P.S.
And what's next? Is the Church gonna uphold the latest incident in which two soldiers are accused of stalking, raping, and then murdering her and her family, including a child?
The troops look toward their leader for guidance, and they see that the thugs admit that they break laws in the name of fighting terrorism.
The fish rots from the head down.

I'm telling you, these are signs of deep, bottom-scraping desperation. Bush is on the run and grasping at straws, such as this proclamation from "the base." So much time left in office, so much chance that Democrats will take back the Congress and so much to be convicted for. There is evidence in abundance to call for investigations of war profiteering, Constitutional violations-a-palooza, garden variety corruption, power-grabbing, lying, cheating, stealing (trying to keep this short...) Get out the vote for the mid-terms! This is the time for action to shut this corrupt administration down and become as responsible to our troops as they have been to us. Respect our troops! Bring them home from this megalomaniac's war!

Sanctimonious nuts with misguided fervor who believe God's on their side will never back down. They honestly expect the entire world to join them in a new Crusade to defeat Islam.

Their hatred fuels a new generation of strident Christians and Muslims out to kill each other in the Name of God.

God help us. The hatred generated by moron Crusaders a millennium ago has lasted a thousand years.

--Ignorantia Furor et Lacrimae.

"The majority mistakenly locked into a pre-9/11 mind-set, which sees the Al Qaeda threat as a criminal problem to be dealt with by police and the criminal justice system, rather than as the significant military threat that it is."

Significant military threat? Well, now that he mentions it...I'm thinking just the opposite (of course). The terrorists really are more of a criminal/police matter than a military matter.

The army is trained and equipped to defeat an army on a battlefield. They aren't trained or set up to search out a handful of terrorists plotting to set off a car bomb somewhere. That's police work.

A lot of Baptist-types have convinced themselves that we are in a conventional war and that the army must be sent it. But the army has no opposing force to fight. It must be very frustrating for them to have to set aside 90% of their basic training for military operations, and instead become a police force pressed into trying to keep order in a hopeless situation.

Fighting the "war" on terror is a job for good policemen, the FBI and the CIA. The US Army has no business in this. It's not their purpose. It's not their kind of fight. Bring them home.

"The majority mistakenly locked into a pre-9/11 mind-set, which sees the Al Qaeda threat as a criminal problem to be dealt with by police and the criminal justice system, rather than as the significant military threat that it is. Make no mistake; we are at war with an enemy that loathes, with every fiber of its being, everything that we stand for as a nation."
This is the significant spin that the present administration(read Karl Rove) orchestrated to perpetuate a wartime atmosphere for their fascist denial of human rights and reality. On 9-11 a small clandestine group ran planes into the World Trade Center. By 9-13 this adminsitration had implemented one of the most catastrophically stupid and self fulfilling foreign policies in history that redefined war as not a conflict between nations but a conflict defined as anything the Bush administration deemed a threat or opportunity.. Hence, the invasion of a sovereign Iraq. Hence, the assault on the right to privacy, the first and fourth amendments, and any criticism of red herrings issues like queers, flags, and guns that are so popular with the christian right.
Make no mistake; we are at war with those that would drag everything we stand for as a nation into the dirt and have us all pay the price in international respect and an irrevocable deficit of ethics and capital.

Excellent post, P. /bow.

Hmm, not good. Hit the URL for a link to this AP story:

June 30,2006 | SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico -- Defense lawyers said Friday that authorities at the Guantanamo Bay prison confiscated letters to detainees and other legal papers as part of an investigation into three apparent suicides three weeks ago at the facility.

U.S. military officials declined to discuss whether papers were seized or the reasons for doing so.

Excellent posts on this thread. Wow, unspoiled after some six hours.

Our crafty leadership has us straddling a fence of rhetoric. They need to stick with "it's a war" or "it's not a war", because if it is one, these are POWs. If it's not a war, then we'd better not be detaining people with no charges or trials in sight. What is left of our national reputation is on the line.

Not to be ignored is the fact that this arrangement will make life (and death, for that matter) very difficult for any of our good soldiers unfortunate enough to be captured. The way bushco has handled Gitmo, the way the American press paraded the corpse of al-Zarqawi will make for certain torture and exploitation of our soldiers.

How can so many people in this country not be outraged?

"We should torture those infidels! Allah Achbar"
-The Southern Baptist Convention

I'm hate religion more and more the more I read and get informed. And I used to be very religious. SIgh.

Lets see, if you are a Christian in general and a Baptist specifically, then that means you have no right as an American to express an opinion over an issue with which you disagree? It is disturbing to me to see the hatred so openly incurred by those of you on the "liberal" side who seem intent on seeing anyone and anything that is "Christian" move silently into the night. We have a voice. We are not afraid to use it. I have no problem with all the a-religionists using their voices and expressing their opinions, so why are you guys so threatened by our voices and our opinions?

That said, I believe we have an obligation as a nation to take the "high road" in this and all matters relating to this terrible war. We cannot and must not present ourselves as the defenders of civilization and then turn and behave in an uncivilized manner. I don't always agree with the rulings of the Supreme Court. I certainly do not agree with everything the Southern Baptist Convention does. But I respect the right of the Supreme Court to uphold the law, and the right of the SBC to issue a statement saying they disagree.

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I don't understand tax law or the structure of the Baptists well enough to know this - is this group tax-exempt? And would this be politcal enough to get their exemption revoked?

Let's see. A church that developed at the time of the Civil war to convince the rest of the people that there was a biblical basis for continued slavery. I guess with that track record, this type of letter is to be expected.

They stilll need to read the New Testament.

Thanks for the article, as the comments provide a wonderful assortment of logical fallacies that I can use to illustrate the so-called intellectual superiority of the left-wing elite.