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The Brummett article must have landed square on the nose. Usually the little Asa gnomes flood this place in response to criticism. I suppose it's only a matter of time before they get their talking points...let me save you the trouble:

- "but, but, Beebe's worse!"
- "Brummett's a hack."
- "Asa is a good man with values."

Brummet is so irrelevant that this Asa supporter doesn't even feel the need to respond. W

Warwick's column is shocking. I cannot believe that a politician would be so stupid to one day tell gay's that he with them, announce his support to the state the day after the SC decisoin and then meet with his pollsters and the rest of the ticket to switch his position. He has pissed off everyone. The rednecks won't trust him and the liberals and gay won't either.

He just lost the election. I love it. I love it - He has no core and that is why he was so succesful at the capitol and why lobbyist and business interests love hm, but the average person regardless of their personal beliefs want somebody who believes something and will fight for it not lie to everybody just to get elected.

brummett can be excused for
not knowing the full range and
scope of rudy giuliani's infidelities.
not only was he cheating on wife
no. 2 [donna hanover], he was
ferrying around his doxy [now wifey
no. 3] in city limos etc, with city
police protection etc.

of course we need not get into
how he was banging his
assistant, christine lategano
because that would be piling on.

for the real giuliani-give wayne
barrett of village voice a call

O'Byrne and Moore did exactly what they should have done -- treat the victim and her family with compassion and respect and provide assistance to others in getting moved out of the motel where the attack occurred.

How depressing...lame race, lame candidates...

Disappointed about Beebe's slight to the Stonewalls...

And nevermind about the kiddos looking for a home, even if it is temporary...

Not much to choose from in this race, I am afraid...

Lancaster's column is right on the money, too.

Y'all defend these city hacks just like you do George.

Certainly some measure of that was appropriate but, keeping it all quiet and paying for plane flights was completely misguided and inappropriate.

I'm not particularly thrilled with any of the candidates in any of the races. I would like for someone to give me a reason to rally behind any these people. The one candidate I really feel was in this for the right reason didn't make it out of the primary.

Good Morning to Me:

And you can honestly say A$a is a better candidate? Give me a break!

It's not much or an Era for politics. Even on the national scene none of the candidates has the intelligence or conviction to inspire support. But in there defense, it's not an era of great issues either. We're fat and happy. Don't rock the boat.

If the Stonewall Democratic Club and their members still support Mr. Beebe after this one-two slap in their faces, then how are they any different than the masochistic Log Cabin Republicans?

Clay,

I agree with you. I don't know about Halter, but Beebe and Dustin McDaniel have both been pandering to the gay community. Neither of them will do a damn thing to help gays. Hell Dustin has already let the gay community know that they aren't fit to be parents!

Huzzah for three good reporters and columnists! While the national media wobbles from bravery to complicity (unfortunately tipping towards complicity too often), our Arkansas press is ferretting out objective and important facts that allow the readers to make our own decisions. Good job, Brummett, Warwick, Max!

Huzzah for three good reporters and columnists! While the national media wobbles from bravery to complicity (unfortunately tipping towards complicity too often), our Arkansas press is ferretting out objective and important facts that allow the readers to make our own decisions. Good job, Brummett, Warwick, Max!

Jim Lendall or Rod Bryan should hold a press conference TODAY letting the gays and lesbians and liberal in general that they welcome them and won't use them only to throw them under the bus when a pollster tells them to.

Mike Beebe is deserving of running as a democrat.

Heaven forbid that 2 pepole in a party could disagree, eh, Max?

Oh wait - i forgot you all are dems - where INTOLERANCE is the rule and lock-step like AGREEMENT MUST OCCURR!!

(think i'm kidding? Ask Joe Leiberman, or Hillary Clinton, or the infamous Zell Miller, or those unethical loonies at DailyKos how they feel about "party unity")

A democrat chastising a republican about not being "united". Laughable!

(anyways, i thought the criticism was that gop is too "similar"... so now they are different, max, but you attack 'em anyway... for shame! either they are too homogenous, or diverse but "hyprocrites"!! YOU CAN'T have it both ways~

Mike Beebe is beloved by the lobbyist and business community for this very reason. He has no soul, and therefore they know that if the price is right, they can get whatever they want from him.

That has made him a very good legislator and prolific fundraiser, but it means that people who are interested in politics or democracy because they believe in something greater than themselves will get SCREWED everytime.

The people of Arkansas are beginning to see what the capitol insiders have known for ever. Beebe will say anything to your face - but his word is as firm as jello.

This may explain why it is that I have met 7 people who think that if Mike Beebe is elected, they will be the next highway commissioner.

The question is which ones is he lying to?

I"m gonna look at the Rudy trip a little differently than Brumment.
It's about the money. Truth is Asa can't raise it, the phones and direct mail are not garnering the results needed. (Ask Hathorn and Wooldridge what money means in a statewide race.)
The boys over at the Asa camp are no dummies, they had to know that Rudy would bring a comment or two on the hypocracy of having Rudy the liberal come trolling for dollars for Asa the staunch Bob Jones conservative. But, considering that Beebe has been looking in the rearview mirror at Asa since day one - they figured the gamble would be worth it.
The National Repulican Party can't be happy with Asa's fundrasing efforts, so they send in the usual suspects early - but history says - if Asa doesn't get the dollars and traction he needs soon - they'll have no problem shitting on one of their own (despite what he did for their party - they've proved that) and investing in races they can win. Personally I think these days are interesting and dangerous for Asa - Maybe Armani Ronnie can raise Reagan for an hour or two and bring him into AR to help raise a little cash.

don't like the reagan comment, but nwa observer is onto something

and really, other than the 15 seconds of announcment/discussion on the tv when the race is called, what kind of national implications does the AR gov race have nationally???

doesn't tip the balance in house or senate, and the gop will still have the gov. advantage..... and asa isnt a barak obama "up and comer"

if i were the nat'repubs, i would send the big guys who are happy to go (ie those campaigning like mccain), but be careful with the $

The 14 year old out of town rape victim:

Women have been getting raped in Little Rock downtown hotel elevator shafts for years. Now, it's epidemic crime is so bad there.

How devastating for this girl. Parents have got to a) stop sending their kids on out of town trips in today's culture and b) never send a child to a city with a crime rate as high as Little Rock's. This is not the 1970's anymore, no one is safe out there anywhere, especially if they are a child or a woman.

A lot of effort put in on the cover up - it makes no difference, 33 murders since January can't be covered up.

Asa has raised more money than Mike Huckabee had at this point and he was the incumbent. Asa is doing fine raising money, but Beebe is phenomonal at it.

The problem is that the reason he is so good at raising money is the same reason the voters don't or won't trust him.

What should Asa do - turn away these guys who want to come in and campaign for him.

I have a differrent take on the John "Beebe Press Secretary" Brummett column. Beebe is scared, Brummett is scared, Asa is winning. Why else would Brummett unleash such a blatantly one-sided column. The Beebe camp has finally woken up and they are in full panic mode. Bye Bye Beebe

Asa and Giuliani agree on some issues, and the disagree on others. If Brummett is going to call Asa a hypocrite b/c Giuliani is helping his campaign, then I guess the Republican attacks that tie Mike Beebe and Jason Willett to Howard Dean stick too?

Can't have it both ways.

"a brazen hypocrite, a devotee of expediency over principle"

Today's typical politician. We want them to tell us what we want to hear just like CNN and Fox. We have the government we deserve.

Enjoy!

I nominate this for quote of the day from Brummett -

"He holds the requisite Arkansas positions that gays shouldn't be allowed to marry but should be allowed to carry whatever firearm or explosive device they darned well please."

Brummett really is stretching here. The difference between Beebe and Asa is so obvious that only the most partisan will fail to see the distinction - but for Brummett and those on this blog, let me spell it out:

Mike Beebe contradicts HIMSELF depending on who he is talking to. (See Warwick's article)

Asa Hutchinson contradicts those who are supporting him because they agree on the other 90% of the issues.

Brummett - you need to call your doctor - your hard on for Asa has lasted MUCH longer than 4 hours.

A distinction without a difference. I hope it makes you feel better

Rave on, It sounds like you took a little exctasy at your rave. Again, if you don't see the distinction you are either a hard core partisan or a mental incompetent.

I choose to think the best of you.

You will always disagree with other people - even your spouse, but when you start disagreeing with yourself - you are either a schyzophrinic or MIke Beebe running for Governor.

I don't remember Rudi waving his finger at me and the nation saying "I didn't have sex..." . Asa prosecuted Clinton for lying under oath not having sex.

Asa and Giuliani agree on some issues

And what hot button issues do they agree on?

abortion
gay marriage
immigrants and amnesty
gun control?

The mantra of the Republican Party - Guns, God and Gays - you want to distant Asa from Rudy's "liberal" stance on social issues - the life blood of your party - and embrace his (haven't heard yet) other policies? Now that's trying to have it both ways isn't it?

"And what hot button issues do they agree on?"

They agree on:

A proactive policy against terrorism
National security
Tax relief

They agree on tax policy on fiscal policy, they agree on a smaller government, they agree on the War Against Terrorism. They agree on States Rights, on a restrained judiciary, they agree on property rights, they agree on wire taps, the agree on the Patriot Act.

I could give you more examples if you would like, but I think I have made my point.

The bigger question is what does Mike Beebe (A) and Mike Beebe (B) agree on - the only thing I can find is that they like free dinners and golf games from lobbyist and they like power.

Jim, Rod can we hear from you today or are your pollsters telling you to stay quiet.

A$A , and Mike Beebe ,
here is some facts your staff might want to CHEW ON while you discount our Numbers & Gay Taxpaying Households . IN Arkansas.

Gay and lesbian couples live in 99.3 percent of all counties across America, according to the Human Rights Campaign's analysis of the 2000 Census statistics.
Here are the numbers for Arkansas.
Increase in households of same-sex partners in Arkansas Households of same-sex partners in Arkansas, urban vs. rural: Year Urban Total Rural Total Percent Urban Percent Rural 1990, Women 262, Male244, 52% 48% .........2000 females 2,304, males 2,119 52% 48%......
Please note that HRC estimates that the Census 2000 figures could undercount gay and lesbian families by as much as 62 percent.
For more information, see Census 2000.

Kidding,

Relax babe, you're going to blow up.

Politicians taking different positions on different days. Yep, that must be integrity on the part of the Repub and a mental disorder for the Dem.

Certainly not politics as usual.

"Why else would Brummett unleash such a blatantly one-sided column."

Why else would people talk so bad about Hitler? Brummett wrote what he did because Asa deserves to be called out on it. Rove's Travel Monkey went on to have a little visit later in the day on behalf of Rick "Man on Dog" Santorum.

Olbermann had a piece last night showing Rudy pretending to know Asa in public and then pretending to know Bow Wow Santorum. I'm surprised Rudy wasn't handing out little chunks of the World Trade Center to the adoring Republican audiences. The fluff so fluffy it made my Cool-Whip seem heavy last night during dessert.

I keep smacking myself upside the head trying to make sense of it all. Here in 2006, we're living in the most dangerous times in the last 60 years and yet from top to bottom our leaders are just a dollop of Cool-Whip. There is no substance to any of them. We are adrift with a fool driving the ship. God how I wish something mattered again.

I can pull a few facts together. Beebe will win, he is not behind, he is not scared, Cheney, Rove, McCain, Rudy and Zell cannot put the wind back in Asa's limp sails. If there is an Allah, Republicans nation wide will only get about 599 votes this November. No political party in my lifetime deserves less votes and more spankings than the current crop of Republicans. Failures, crooks, the rest just more fluff.

After the elections our next job is to take our victorious Democrats to the wood shed and beat a clear message into their brains. We will not put up with any more shenanigans. Beebe must be the people's Governor, not the Governor of lobbyists and big business. Halter said he'd do more than smile as Lt. Governor, let's hold him to that. Lincoln and Pryor need a crash course in Democrat 1.1. They clearly never knew or have forgotten what it means to be a Democrat, even a conservative Democrat. Their actions have weakened their own party. Walk a straighter line or walk the plank.

As Bush takes us into WWIII, Arkansas must be strong enough to weather the coming war years. We can't do it with fluff, or crooks, or repeating failures of the past. To survive we'll need the support of the Log Cabin Republicans and the Stonewall Democrats. We'll need Izzard County to do their part. We'll need money in the mail from Steve Clark. We'll need Zell to take his meds. Paula Jones will have to get off her back and patrol the trailer park. Justice Jim and the widow of Frank White can wrap bandages.

If it gets as bad as I think, we'll need Asa's penny stocks and Beebe's checks from AP&L to stuff the cracks in the winter. We'll need Quimby's white robes to keep in body heat at night. Huck will have to burn all his free furniture in the fireplace to heat the mansion. And let's start now collecting feathers at Tyson. Unless we get a grip now, Santorum's dogs will be Sunday dinner in the future.

Especially in Arkansas, this happened once about 145 years ago. I can happen again.

May I ask what
National Security and a policy on terrorism has to do with the Governship of Arkansas? Asa needs to be considering a national race.

As far as tax relief - Asa needs to spend some face time with the Huckster - he needs a lesson on screaming tax relief for Arkansas as a campaign issue - Huckster screamed it and when he took office, well he got a lesson in Arkansas economics - hence no tax relief. Despite what you think of the Arkansas voter - you probably can't fool him twice on this.

Warwick's column has unveiled the biggest mistake, maybe only mistake, of this campaign season thus far.

Mike Beebe has better be conducting damage control, because he just handed Asa and maybe more importantly Jim Lendall and Rod Bryant a gift.

People expect that candidates know where they stand on moral issues. You do NOT poll questions of morality - maybe you do on which taxes are least liked, but not on questions of morality.

You certainly don't lie to one group and then turn around and lie to the entire state after your pollsters told you to. It is becoming apparent that Beebe has no soul and even more apparent that he has never run a race before.

I tend to be more moderate than most Times readers and would vote a Republican for governor in the right situation. I like Win Rockefeller, he was a social moderate who would aggressively work to bring in new jobs and better the Arkansas economy. The Hutchinsons are just so ridiculously conservative they alienate all of the swing voters. It's going to be a a lot easier for Beebe to look like a moderate than for Asa.

George Wallace, 1968: "There's not a dime's worth of difference between Richard Nixon and Hubert Humphrey."

2006: There's not a dime's worth of difference between Asa Hutchinson and Mike Beebe. Maybe a nickel--Asa has less hair and Beebe has more money.

Would you care to cite issues that you differ with Asa on?

I suspect that you won't.

DBI,

It would be nice dude. That is not the world we live in. The votes are running the other way. Votes, man, its all about votes. Democrats don't get out like the right.

God, Guns, and Gays. That's the national agenda. It's been poll tested and it turns out votes.

One day in the not too distant future a real set of issues will arise and people of integrity will be needed to address them. For now its just graft and greed.

God, Guns, and Gays. Keep the faith, keep on bloggin'.

People expect that candidates know where they stand on moral issues. You do NOT poll questions of morality - maybe you do on which taxes are least liked, but not on questions of morality

So your point is that "on moral issues" that Asa and Rudy are one in the same?

You do NOT poll questions of morality

Get a life man. They poll test anything that moves, morality first last and often.

Asa and Rudy agree on nothing when it comes to social issues - so what. I disagree with Asa on some social issues but I am still supporting - should he denounce me or I him. I fail to get y'all's point.

Anyhow, they may poll issues of morality but they don't change their position if it disagrees with their fundamental belief - Only Beebe does that. I know Tim Wooldridge and Paul Suskie wouldn't have - can we have a re-vote.

One day in the not too distant future a real set of issues will arise and people of integrity will be needed to address them..

Gas prices and a war that should of never happened - and that my friend WILL be the issue come Nov., and it'll drag every single R down on any ticket. With Israel and the mess we are about to see in the upcoming days - as we took our eye off the real problems of th Middle East to have our resident cowboy strap on his gun - to kill the weakest link (how courageous) Iraq - oil is now - at 8 a.m. this morning $76.00 dollars a barrel and rising - translates to $3.50 to $4.00 bucks a gallon. And every single AMERICAN standing at a pump this summer is going to question the wisdom of letting the "war" party govern.

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Any gay or lesbian Arkansan who votes for Mike Beebe and expects him to do anything but stab them in the back if he's elected is naive beyond measure. Anyone who is gay or lesbian and gave Mike Beebe money should ask for their money back.

I say this as a progressive heterosexual Democrat who cannot abide Asa Hutchinson but also is disgusted with Beebe.

Beebe's top priority if he's elected in '06 will be to get re-elected in 2010. He is so naturally a political weathervane that he won't do anything to get labeled friendly to gays and lesbians. He will do and say anything to get elected because he has no core beliefs to betray.

Bill Halter, you should have stayed in the governor's race. Even if you couldn't win, you could have forced Beebe to behave more like a real Democrat instead of a gutless lobbyist rimming whore.

Governor Beebe, House Speaker Petrus and Senate President Pro Tem Critcher will do the bidding of Entergy, Deltic Timber, Tyson, Wal-Mart and all the other corporate behemoths. The people who work for a living and those trapped in poverty will continue to get the shaft.

At least there's Rod Bryan and (hopefully) Jim Lendall as another choice on the ballot in November. If the only choices were Mike Beebe and Asa Hutchinson, it would be a choice between the evil of two lessers.

If the Dems win in November it will be by a slim margin and because they choose their words pretty carefully. The electorate has been confused enough on Irag and oil that they won't switch when given the red meat by the Repubs.

Haven't you been reading these guys posts. They made up their mind years ago. A little war in the sand against a bunch of 12th century goat herders is not going to make a dent here.

Amazing...we have trained victim advocates to work with rape victims and a crime victims reparations fund to pay for out of pocket expenses related to crime. Why did Graves and O'Byrne think they are qualified for this job? They suddenly decide they're eequipped to go rushing in where training, sensitivity and other skills are MUCH better suited. TYPICAL! Often rape victims are re-victimized when inexperienced people seek to address issues related to their victimization. Maybe the rape crisis folks need to forward their hotline to Barbara Graves if she's so ready to provide direct services!

I don't remember Rudi waving his finger at me and the nation saying "I didn't have sex..." . Asa prosecuted Clinton for lying under oath not having sex.

Oh please...Asa (the Repubs) went after Clinton 'cause he stood for everything they're against: He was an outsider (no Bush-like silver spoon in his mouth); he was competent; and he actually had a vision for America that included more than the Grand Old Patricians crowd. Equal rights and opportunities for gays/women and minorities actually meant something to him.

Clinton shot himself in the foot by lying (though I've yet to figure out how ya can have an affair without lying). But every time a Republican spouts sanctimonious crap about the Clinton witch-hunt being about perjury, I want to puke...on them.

A$a a shallow, self-serving hypocrite...why I'm shocked.

The only way A$a wins is if he comes up with pictures of Beebe at a gay orgy while actually inhaling.

I'm still digesting the fact that LR motels aren't safe for our young people...

"...a gutless lobbyist rimming whore."
Posted by: beebe is gutless | July 13, 2006 11:11 AM

Good thing the FCC's new gadzillion-dollar potty-mouth fine doesn't reach to the ARK Blog! Well, I say that, then remembered that 'ass' is okay, while 'tit' isn't, so maybe "gutless lobbyist rimming whore," slips through a similar crack. Oh, did I say that? :-)

P.S. Oh, I hate Beebe, too. There's your redeeming social value content to this posting--not totally gratuitous.

Zelda, You seem to know a lot about gay orgies. I know..I know..it's a liberal thing !

Jim, Rod - are you out there????

I want to hear from you - the press won't ever ask your opinions so come on here and tell us.

Zelda, You seem to know a lot about gay orgies. I know..I know..it's a liberal thing !

I know a lot about loser Republicans and what kind of dirty tricks it takes for them to win an election...especially what it'll take for A$a to win.

anon # 14...I loved the way you pounded Ugly Zelda on that one. Ain't it fun gettin' thr best of these libs on their own turf? love it ..ya'll keep it up and so will I......Brad

It's easier to make fun of Dems. All the bad things you can say about Repubs they are proud of.

Max, the Hotel Rape at Holiday Inn Airport

I find it odd this happen during the COC biggest covention of the Year the TAA, might be why normal Arkansan/ Little Rock citizens are not helped with crimes . i think she was helped to keep the Convention here next year.any VICTIM of a crime in LittleRock or a Citizen can't expect the same services from our VICE MAYOR or Little Rock board I'm sure ......I'm offended my Local Tax Dollars were spent on out of state vistors, No offence to the rape victim but a Normal Arkansan would have to go throught 6 months of paper work after a conviction of the crime to gain any Help at ALL.. and the Arkansas state victims crime board should of help them then just my opinion BTW i know 4 hate crimes victims in Arkansas who have been denided any help what so ever for crimes against them ....... If i read your edtorial right the facts are still fuzzy in this report. I'd like answers too . have a great Vacation Max......

"anon # 14...I loved the way you pounded Ugly Zelda on that one. Ain't it fun gettin' thr best of these libs on their own turf? love it ..ya'll keep it up and so will I......Brad"

Posted by: Anonymous | July 13, 2006 12:15 PM

If anyone would know about pounding and self gratification it would be Anonymouses like Bradess...Getess...Nonyess...Masturbatoress.

I invite the Stonewall and Log Cabin members of their respective parties to join the Green Party instead ... as members, as voters, as candidates, and as friends. The Green Party plank against discrimination is not just symbolic. We do not pander to bigots.

I understand if some folks cannot join with us for other social, political, or economic concerns, but if you can agree with the principles of the Green Party ....

Please join our family, you are welcome here.

Jim Lendall
Green Party Candidate for Governor
www.jimlendall2006.com
www.arkgreens.org

anon # 14...I loved the way you pounded Ugly Zelda on that one. Ain't it fun gettin' thr best of these libs on their own turf? love it ..ya'll keep it up and so will I......Brad

Oh sir...thy wit has laid me bare.

Jim Lendall: The Arkansas Ralph Nader of 2006, just like the Ralph Nader of 2000.
A vote for Jim is a vote for A$A!

Who cares if a vote for Jim is a vote for Asa. Asa is frankly more moderate on business issues than Beebe and apparently they are identical on social issues. I am beginning to think I would prefer Asa and I know that I want to vote for somebody who is not a panderer. So I will vote for Jim and hope that he gets 3 percent, which will change politics forever in AR.

The real difference here is a vote for competence versus cronieism.

Great job Brownie!

Government is just a cash cow to these guys, at every level.

Re: rape of the soccer player. It seems that the whole point of the taxpayers' assistance to the victim's family was to get them the hell out of town and back home to North Carolina before any of the local media got wind of the story and had an opportunity to interview the parents. What we have here is world class after the fact damage control. Here it is eleven days later and still nothing in the local media that I've seen. Let's hold out hope that the AT will do some digging and print a story in next week's issue.

cronieism - are you freaking kidding me. You obviously do not know Mike Beebe. He is the KING of cronieism.
Every former Senator or lobbyist will have a high ranking job in his administration. It will look like the "old rest home" has been resurrected.

Mike Beebe will bring the good ole boy system back to it's rightful prominence.

The media knows good and damn well Rod and Jim exist, yet for some reason they do not feel compelled to ask for their opinion. Rod rode his bike across the state and struggled everyday to get close to 1 2 , 0 0 0 people to sign a petition. He spends every waking moment worrying about what will happen to me, you, his family, your family and this state.

As a life-long democrat, where was my voice when the DPA announced Mike was the man for the dems last year?

I feel a deep sadness when someday I will be forced to explain to my now 4 year old why our leaders today spend all their time drawing blood over? flag-burning? and did not focus on the fact we need better education. I hate to tell you folks, but Mike and Asa will NOT being pulling their heads out of their a$$e$ anytime soon.

Look at Rod Bryans platform and ideas and tell me he is not the man to take us into the next 20 years. Call a friend of the opposite party and agree to both vote for Rod instead of canceling each others vote out. And make a real change for our state.

Great idea - I will call one of my Republican friends who were for Rockefeller and tell her to take that Asa sticker off and let;s vote for an independent.

We can change this state if we care enough.

Ha ha,

Everybody does it?

I know that is your justification for everything. It doesn't justify it.

Thank God, we are going to find out who is right.

To "Can't afford to chance it:" the Nader canard gets a little old after a while.

You use it to excuse voting for Democrat candidates who, if they had any principles to begin with, have sold them and turned their backs on the people who actually believe in Arkansas.

We cannot afford to dismiss this opportunity to establish a party that gives voters a choice - rather than the two wings of the Republican Party.

I may not win, but I hope that we will achieve the 3% we need to establish a home for the voters who have been abandoned by the yellow dog and blue dog of politics.

Jim Lendall
Green Party Candidate for Governor
jimlendall2006.com

Bush does it and Beebe does it. Asa has never been an "insider" hence his fundraising defecit

Jim,
There are probably a couple of hundred of people who read this blog. You need to issue a press release and let people know that you offer a choice. Let people know that You won't let pollsters tell you that gay people are bad.

There are alot of people who would vote for you if they knew that you offered something different. Expand yourself beyond this blog - please.

Asa, not an insider?

Right, good argument.

...Asa has never been an "insider"...

HA HA HA HA HA

Who says Republicans don't have a sense of humor.

Enough Already | July 13, 2006 02:05 PM: Getting news coverage for third party candidates is a bit difficult.

However, when the Green Party has its Nominating Convention this Saturday at University Mall (noon to 6pm), we will have several statements regarding this and other issues.

Jim Lendall

Keep on 'em, Jim...

"Jim Lendall: The Arkansas Ralph Nader of 2006, just like the Ralph Nader of 2000.
A vote for Jim is a vote for A$A!"

A crap analogy. There was a legitimate argument for Nader voters to vote for Gore in 2000, because Gore was strikingly different than Bush on a range of issues--from affirmative action to global warming to tax cuts to civil liberties.

Try to make the same argument when comparing Beebe to Hutchinson. They are two peas in the same pod. Beebe's "me too" whenever Hutchinson announces a right-wing position on one issue after another is enough to induce vomiting.

Seems regrettable now that there are two alternatives to Beebe and Hutchinson rather than one. This will make the Green Party's 3% threshold (necessary for future ballot rights) more difficult to obtain. Mr. Lendall has come out clearly in opposition to the campaign of demagogic homophobia. What say you, Mr. Bryan? Yes, there are plenty of other issues, but Beebe and Hutchinson seem to want to outdo one another in their rush to embrace the haters. Plus, this issue serves as an excellent indicator of overall character.

"Oh please...Asa (the Repubs) went after Clinton 'cause he stood for everything they're against: He was an outsider (no Bush-like silver spoon in his mouth);"

Clinton's step father owned two car dealership in Hot Springs and his mother was a well educated nurse. My Aunt grew up in Hot Springs and she said Clinton always had a nice convertible to drive around town in. Not big oil money but better than what I had and much better than he likes to let on.

One of the things that the democrats do better than the Republicans is compromise on hot button issues. What in the world do Bill Halter and Bobby Glover have in common? Not much but they get along much better than Jim Holt and Mike Huckabee. Most democrats put away difference and work together for the good of the party. If Brummet definition of hypocrisy is accurate then were does that leave Mike Beebe and his association with John Kerry, Howard Dean, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Barbara Streisand, or Barrack Obama. All of these democrats have very different views on social issues than Beebe says he does. If Beebe stands on the same stage with other members of his party, takes money from them, or attend fundraises with them does that make him a hypocrite? I think not. Brummett is a amazing to me. Not so long ago he was lambasting Mike Beebe for his relationship with Nick Wilson now he beats the drum for him. Do a little research and I think you all will be surprised with some of the awful things he has said about Mike Beebe. When you have done your reading tell me; Who is the hypocrite now?

"In 2004 Forbes magazine did a study which indicated that the legalization of gay marriage would pump $16.2 billion into the economy through the wedding industry. About Economics suggested in 2004 that gay marriage would increase tax revenue up to $1.3 billion. The Christian Science Monitor suggests that the economic impact on corporations woulld be minimal (1-2% with 96% of companies not impacted). The congressional Budget Office indicated that it would "improve the [federal] budget's bottom line by $1 billion per year in the 10 years". The CBO calculates that same-sex couples would boost Social Security spending, because the partner of a deceased worker would receive 100 percent of the worker's benefit. But the federal government would save money on Supplemental Security Income, Medicaid, and Medicare. The balance, CBO calculates, could be $50 million a year positive or negative on spending through 2009, and reduce spending by $100 million to $200 million annually from 2010 through 2014. And on the state level, That's primarily because the changed law would reduce the number of people utilizing means-tested programs, such as Medicaid and food stamps, says R. Bradley Sears, executive director of the Williams Project on Sexual Orientation Law at the University of California in Los Angeles. The incomes of domestic partners would be merged for means-testing, and some partners would look after each other without state help. In California, for instance, same-sex marriage would save the state budget from $22.3 million to $25.2 million, according to a study by Mr. Sears and M.V. Lee Badgett, an economist at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst. Similar results have come from studies for Vermont, New Jersey, Ohio, and Oregon, Sears notes. So to issue a blanket statement that gay marriage would be very costly is not quite HONEST "

hey moron,

legalizing ANYTHING immoral, illicit, or harmful makes money
DUH!!

~legalize pedolphila, charge a $1000 yearly 'permit'?

~legalize slavery, have the feds take 50% of the initial sale

~legalize POLYGAMY, so there are "MORE WEDDINGS ALL AROUND"

~legalize crack cocaine and tax the drug dealers

DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH

YOU ARE A FOOL

KEEP POSTING MORE DRIVEL YOU TOOL

*p.s. = gay marraige will NEVER be legal int his county. I know all you libs think that the "younger generation" is a bunch of wussy tree huggers, but the stark reality is that there is also a HUGE amount of HARDCORE right wing repub youth, and a majority of youth that are "volunteers", "moderates", "protestant Christian or at least not 'offended' by Christianity", "tolerant" "non-racist-sexist-etc".... THIS is the america of tomorrow. The children of the soccer moms.

THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY WILL BE MORE LIKE TE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN LAKEWOOD OR PLEASANT VALLEY, WITH BITS OF PINE BLUFF (black) AND SPRINGDALE (hispanic) AND BRYANT (white) ON THE FRINGE.

LAKEWOOD, NOT HILLCREST.

Think I'm kidding? Read the polls. Investigate. Moveon youth are a tiny tiny fraction.

"gay facts not fiction" is in a dream world... keep on whining because gay marraige ain't gonna happen

Funny thing is, you will call me a HOMOPHOBE because i am against gay marriage.

So is 80% of the country a homophobe?

Funny thing is, you will call me a HOMOPHOBE because i am against gay marriage.

So is 80% of the country a homophobe?

Posted by: GayFactsIsAnIdiot
you can be what ever you want to be man this is America.I'm just not one .

Oh contraire. Black folks wanted to vote long before the Voting Rights Act was passed, it took years for their dream to come true. Before that it took women a long time to get the vote. The year I was born black and whites couldn't legally marry in most states, none in the South. No one thought abortion would be legalized in 1955 either.

The facts show that more Americans are becoming comfortable with the gay lifestyle. The shock of gayness is wearing off, just like heads don't jerk as often when people see a mixed race couple pushing a cart together in Wal-Mart. Gay marriage may be 5 years off, it may be 10, but you can bet the farm that in the future gay couples will enjoy the exact same rights as hetero couples. And it won't cause a bit of harm.

The world will not blow up if different people get the same treatment in the eyes of the law. That's a good thing.

So, DBI, when do the pedophiles get their turn?

And the polygamists?

And the incestuous couples?

And the bestiality practitioners?

When is their turn? Beacuse if you legally can't stop gays, you legally can't stop any of the others groups. (18 is just an age for pedophila- cmon, you can drive at 16 or 14, work at 15, pay TAXES at 15, see rated 'r' movies at 17, can't drink until 21, vote at 18, run for state leg at 21, be tried as an adult at 16.... why the arbitrary 18 for sex??? if your gay push goes through legally, then the courts CANNOT prevent any of the others)

*watch him say: "oh, don't go slippery slope with me" -- you've been watching one too many jon stewart shows*

If the gay movement wins, then so will incest, polygamy, bestiality, and pedophila -- there would be no legal reason to prevent them.

And if you think people are becoming "warmer" to gay LIFESTYLE (not as a person but as a "-ality"), i suggest you go to any of the churches where 100 Million americans have their butts in pews every sunday, the tens of milions of YOUTH who are opposed to gay marriage, the vast majority of the non-college educated americans, an OVERWHELMING majority of blacks and a large majority of hispanics -- you really think america is changing? Turn off air america and go to a nascar race. Visit wal-mart instead of Beans n' grains n' things -- and i think you will see that your demographic projection for this country is WAY OFF.

(and i didnt even MENTION the 4+million muslims who are coming here by larger numnbers, or the 4+million indians, both groups which are "no gays at all".... you are a living a dream if you think berkely and hillcrest will ever beat out the church. if they will, then why no casino gambling?... did you just forget to show up? or is it really that your 8% (known as "The Fifth Column" in the blogosphere) of haters CANNOT CHANGE A THING in this country.

Night.

Here's a Twist: Anti-Gay Kansas Church Billed For Not Protesting

July 13, 2006, 05:05 PM

MUNDY TOWNSHIP, MICHIGAN (AP) -- An anti-gay Kansas church has been slapped with a $5,000 bill for not showing up for a military funeral in Genesee County. Mundy Township police say the group asked in advance for special police protection, but never arrived for a July 1st memorial service for Marine Lance Corporal Brandon Webb.

Members of Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka have held a number of controversial demonstrations at military funerals. They say the deaths are God's punishment for the nation's tolerance of homosexuality.

A church member says the bill is a joke and will be ignored. She says the Holy Ghost told them at the last minute to stay home.

Federal and state laws restrict funeral demonstrations.

Posted by RLR Gay AMERICAN

Did Bush do another signing statement while I was sleeping? When did homosexuality become a crime. Is homosexuality illegal? Boinking kids has been illegal for a long time. Having 2 wives at the same time only works on HBO. And there are indeed laws against loving your dog too much. Personally, I'm against kid boinking, always have been, but if a guy can survive 2 wives, get after it and if you think you're pooch looks sexy in a dress.......you're only helping Rick Santorum get reelected.

Gay is 100% legal. 2 guys kissing may upset you but there are no laws against it. Wasn't too long ago 2 guys playing hide the weenie was illegal, though very few states enforced the laws on the books. Now as far as I know all those old laws are gone and Bruce and Trey can boogie down all night and not break any laws.

There is illegal and there is what you don't like, learn the difference. My wife won't let me be gay dadgum it so I'll never know the joys of hot man luv. But I don't mind if others try their hand or hands. No skin off my nose, doesn't change a thing at my house, wifey pretends to be asleep every night and I don't figure that would change even if gay had never been invented.

I recommend therapy for your anger and your obsession. You're way too bent out of shape over something that will never impact on your life. If you're against gay marriage, don't marry another man. It's just that simple.

And if you need something to worry about late at night, worry about how Cheney's bad heart is going to react to finally testifying under oath. He's a goner for sure.

death by arrogant ignorance = GetReal

Of course, DBI is correct.

So is beebe a hypocrite if he has pro-life people campaign for him?

it is not a requirement that to campaign for someone you must be identical.

As I pointed out in another thread, this guy is showing his ass to anyone who can google and read a bit of English, and more laughably, he's claiming to represent his party. If they don't kick him out or at least repudiate his drivel, they lose.

The repubs are manifestly wrong on so many levels, even God must be rolling his eyes.

Yo, Deathbyignoramussasshole, or whatever...

"-ality."

Like...bigotry-"ality"?

Or...stupidity-"ality"?

No...I think I get it now...homophobe-"ality"?

Sorry, wrong...how about "5th Column-nus ality?"

Dammit...never was "ality-mus-ass-a-mous-able"...

Support for gay marriage is and has been on the increase for some time. Though not a majority opinion, it is slowly approaching it. But here is the kicker...this years graduating seniors nationwide approved of gay marriage nearly 2 to 1. The tide is running out on the homophobes.

Hotline Magazine is making Warwick famous:

ARKANSAS: Did Beebe Really Think This Wouldn't Leak?
Arkansas Times's Sabin reports that AG Mike Beebe (D) held an "off-the-record meeting with the Stonewall Democrats" 6/20 "to explain why his campaign refused their financial contribution." Beebe "admitted that he returned the" gay Dem group's check "because he did not want to be publicly associated with it." He did, though, "care enough to try to soothe the hurt feelings of the membership," of which "quite a few are capable of making substantial campaign donations."
Per "sources who attended the meeting," Beebe was asked how his admin would be better for gays. Specifically, he was asked what he would do with a bill like the one in the last session prohibiting gays or unmarried couples from being foster parents. "There are differing accounts of what Beebe said exactly," but "all agree he committed to trying to prevent such a measure from becoming law." Then, on 6/29, the AR Supreme Court struck down the existing ban on gay foster parents and Beebe issued a "cautious and moderate" statement. But the next day he "changed his tone and his tune," saying he didn't think "given today's society and the controversy, it would be in the best interest of the child to be" placed in a gay home. "Coincidentally, Beebe hosted a meeting earlier that day with" his ticketmates and pollster.
Beebe said "gay people can be extraordinarily loving and wonderful parents," but that they'd have a stigma similar to the one he had as the son of a single mother in the 50's. Beebe: "Like it or not, there is still a strong sentiment out there that could, in my judgement, affect those kids if they're in a gay foster home. ... I'm not defending the stigma. I'm just recognizing the reality" (7/13).

Beebe is a douchebag.

No surprise there...his campaign manager's name is Massengill.