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Could it happen in Arkansas?

LA Times:

SACRAMENTO — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's office in charge of protecting California against terrorism has tracked demonstrations staged by political and antiwar groups, a practice that senior law enforcement officials say is an abuse of civil liberties.

The Times obtained reports prepared for the state Office of Homeland Security in recent months that contain details on the whereabouts and purpose of a number of political demonstrations throughout California.

The source of the information is listed in some cases as federal law enforcement agencies, including the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, an investigative arm of the U.S. Homeland Security department.

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If the goal is to surpress those who seek to tear down our American way of life and help the terrorists, tracking the neocons associated with the Arkansas Family Coalition would be a good start.

Once again...

"... fear of the foreign devil, real or perceived, does more to steal our liberties than any other thing."

-----Madison to Jefferson, 1787

Could it happen in Arkansas?
Probably already does.

Another way Asa Hutchinson as Governor could order the state police to work closely with the feds to prevent political terrorism in Arkansas.

This should not come as a surprise to any of us; and, yes, it happens in Arkansas and in every other state. We have been in a police state for years, even before 9-11. In the past, it has been more clandestine, more covert. Today, the government has become more intrusive and more arrogant in its efforts, and it is cloaked in the guise of national security. Any person/group who challenges any government agency, or anyone who is affilitated with big business, is considered to be an enemy of the state.

We have been in a police state for years, even before 9-11.

You have no idea what living in a police state is like or you wouldn't say something as assinine as this. The first time a terrorist starts blowing up civilians in this country as was happening in Israel you will beg the state to do WHATEVER is in its means to stop it. You are a pampered bunch of spoiled brats who have no idea what evil is out there. Heaven help you in you finally find out.

Man, I hate to open this can of worms......but the last 58 years of Israel's history should be a good lesson to Bush-Cheney and the rest of us. A good lesson in what not to do.

I hate Israel as I hate the Palestinians because both groups are terrorist groups. They have killed each other, babies and all nearly every day for the last 58 years. I've got to the point that I hope they'll soon wipe each other off the face of the earth. Mind you, I want no wars, but if they must happen, I prefer them to be short and brutal....not drag on for 58 years.

I fear they are an example of what the US will be like 10 years from now as the Great Uniter divides us into 2 warring camps. The 2nd Civil War will start in America over power and a difference of ideas. At least Israel and the Palestinians are fighting over power, religion, ideas and property.

And watching Israel and the Palestinians go at it for 58 years it tells me we, like Israel, will be fighting in Iraq for the rest of time, since the insurgence in their own Palestinian way will never ever ever give up.

The only way Israel will win is to kill every living Palestinian man, woman and child. The only way the US will win is to kill every living man, woman, and child in Iraq. In 10 years I fear I'll be typing the same thing about Republicans and Democrats in this country.

I think America should quit aiding one terrorist group over another. We should remove our support from Israel, we should remove our troops from Iraq and let them all have at it. Then as we hide behind the Bush Wall that is going up around our borders, we can shoot any cotton-picking trouble maker that even looks at us funny. Amen

Anon(1:43)---evil happens on many levels, it depends on your frame of reference or your experiences. My point was this: We have given up far too many freedoms, especially our privacy, to appease those who are supposedly concerned about our national safety. I choose to believe our every move is monitored; our every word is recorded; our most private, confidental information is studied; our precious freedom is compromised by zealots who have created a climate of fear. This is America and we have a constitution, a constitution that should not be bastardized to mollify our own political ideology; or our own thirst for power and control.

Man, I hate to open this can of worms......
Posted by: Deathbyinches

I am fast becoming an isolationist. I just can't stand our country meddling in other people's business all over the world. We've been doing it all my life and I'm tired of it.

Israel is a unique situation, of course, since a significant, active, influential portion of our population loves Israel about as much as they love America.

Americans of Italian descent may have fond feelings for Italy, but that's not even in the same ballpark as the feelings of the Jewish people for Israel. And American belongs every bit as much to Jewish Americans as it does to any of the rest of us, so their opinions make a difference.

Israel is hard. Not just for the reason mentioned above, but for about a dozen other reasons.

I set my goals lower. I'd just like to see an end to our Cuban isolation policy. But then, there are these fellow Americans who care about Cuba about as much as they care about America, so...

That the United States, once touted as the "world's greatest democracy," is now ruled by a presidential dictatorship is a fact beyond any serious dispute. Indeed, except for a bare majority on the Supreme Court -- which will disappear with the retirement or demise of the aging Justice John Paul Stevens, who wrote the Court's stinging rejection of Bush's kangaroo military tribunals this week -- the nation's political establishment seems to have accepted this revolutionary system with remarkable docility, even as its lineaments are further exposed week by week. The Bush Administration no longer bothers to hide the novel theory of government upon which its rule is based, but declares it openly, in court, in Congress, everywhere.

The theory holds that the president has the arbitrary right to ignore any law that he feels is an unconstitutional infringement of his power -- and a law is automatically unconstitutional if the president feels it infringes on his power. This neatly squared circle makes Congress irrelevant and removes the judiciary from the loop altogether. Thus, the only effective instrument of power left in the land is the "unitary executive": the fancy modern name that the legal minions of President George W. Bush have given to the ancient concept of "tyranny."

--Chris Floyd
"Insanity Defense"

Probably could, but won't last long if it does. Arkansans are known to kick up a big fuss with these elected officials and cut off the money.

That ususally stops any BS they try to pull. With the exception of the republicans in the US Senate from AR - AR politicians are too afraid of not being re-elected to fail to comply.

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