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The American Taliban holds sway over our government now, as We, The People, cemented their grip in 2004. We are no more enlightened, on the whole, than the far-flung tribes of Afghanistan. Our gadgets and toys may be more sophisticated, but our minds are most certainly not. We, The People are experiencing this "needless suffering" by our own hands.

Yeah, Bush is no doubt the damnest man ever to be president but the one thing is we are not to use unborn or almost born babies for stem cell research! If you want to have stem cells for research YOU CAN USE YOU OWN DAMN BODY FOR IT! Don't take an inocent baby to do what he hell you want with stem cells. By God this is a Christian country and if the bastards, aclu, keep on forcing their ideas on us we will have to go to war with the bastards. IN history God has killed many of their kind.

CV - see total fu**king moran

Darn tootin'!

those stem cells should be issued handguns at conception!

"The ACLU claims that state law enforcement officers violated Rush Limbaugh's privacy rights by seizing his medical records as part of a criminal investigation involving alleged-doctor-shopping. While this case involves the right of Rush Limbaugh to maintain the privacy of his medical records, the precedent set in this case will impact the security of medical records and the privacy of the doctor-patient relationship of every person in Florida, said Howard Simon, Executive Director of the ACLU of Florida."

Yeah thems theres basturds ACLU SomaBitches.

I am by no means a Bush supporter, quite the opposite. But how does Ernie know that the reason for resisting the cervical cancer vaccine is because girls will decide on free love since they would be immune to cervical cancer.

For all the excuses I was given for girls refuse sex with me, cervical cancer was never mentioned.

Ernie does an excellent job week and week out. He's well respected among those politicos that look truly at the issues and their nuances.

There was a discussion on NPR the other day about when life began. The interviewee was the lead scientist on the Human Genome project, a scientist and a Christian, and who said that science could tell you when cells had combined but that the question of when life began was an issue of religion, not of science.

Then he added that since identical twins start as a single egg which divides
sometimes later in its development, if the soul was there at the inception than each twin would have one-half a soul at birth or the soul became present sometime later in development before birth.

The problem with science is that it has the pesky problem of having facts that sometimes get in the way of "logical" beliefs.

And, of course, there is that conspiracy about the earth not being flat. Some of us know that Columbus originally had four ships, the Nina, the Pina, the Santa Maria and the Irving. The Irving fell over the edge of the earth.

This is to be expected. Since they see a fertilized egg as being just as much a person as they are, they want to let it grow a while before girls get an abortion, rather than taking the morning after pill to prevent it's implantation in the first place.

See, this way they get to punish the girl more for her wickedness.

It's just a matter of time until we have pregnant high school girls in the stocks on the courthouse lawn.

It's just a matter of time before they bring back the witch trials.

It's just a matter of time before they amend the constitution to make a fetus President. It will be sort of like Luxora in the Orval comic strip.

Coming from a line of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's tendencies, this issue is particularly important to me.

The hard core evagelical Taliban movement has run it's course...with overwhelming support in both Houses for stem cell research, days are limited for Pat Robertson and the like.

This administration will go down as the worst in history for many things...but meddling with science will be among the top.

It's our own fault...scratch that, YOU'RE fault, you fools that voted for "compassionate conservatism," that when tested, our kids score lower than other advanced countries in the world.

The worm is turning...

The Bush campaign to outlaw stem cell research is possibly the most hypocritical of all of Bush's rigid policies. Bush is not a champion of human life. He would be much more accurately described as a war monger, though that is obviously harsh.

The administration's approach to science within the FDA is no different than other campaigns waged to ignore scientific truth for convenience. We see the same thing in the "debate" about global warming. The scientific comunity agrees - even the few scientisists who have allegedly ruled out global warming in the past - global warming is real. (see Peter Doran's op-ed piece in the NY Times today). Only Bush and those who follow him blindly continue to believe that this is not a problem. It's no different than the fierce campaign waged by tobacco companies for decades, to convince the public that smoking is harmless. We all know how that ended.

All of these problems arise from the basic fact that we, the people, are capable of being hypnotized into believing fraudulent claims that mask underlying interests that are harmful to us. The only solution s to put on your thinking caps and stop believing the hype. It's not about science vs. religion, or science vs. morals. It's about humanity - our health and our survival as a collective group. Try as we might to convince ourselves that an eternal reward awaits and consequences therefore don't matter, we all know that consequences really do matter. It's time to take responsibility - admit that global warming is a reality and that action must be taken. Admit that smoking is harmful to your health. Admit that stem cell research is the greatest tool available to combat a future in which we will face an unprecedented chalenge of disease and health-related issues. Admit that the earth is more than 6,000 years old but may have far less than 6,000 years remaining. Admit that these problems are our own fault, and that only we can solve them.

These embryos would be thrown away (murdered according to Bush) if there were not used for stem cell research. Where's the concern about those embryos thrown out (murdered)? If Bush and some of you nuts really think it is murder then why allow any stem cell research at all? Why allow fertility practices that result in these embryos? Why aren't you volunteering your wives and daughters to give birth to the leftover embryos in order to save them from "murder?"

But how does Ernie know that the reason for resisting the cervical cancer vaccine is because girls will decide on free love since they would be immune to cervical cancer.
Posted by: citizen

This was a well-known consideration in the debate on the vaccine.

From the site...
http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/341183/zealots_find_risk_of_death_preferable_to_teenage_sex/index.html?source=247
"...The vaccine, which should be available next year, prevents human papilloma virus, known as HPV. Because HPV is sexually transmitted, social conservatives object to putting the vaccine on the routine list of immunization shots that girls receive before puberty. The self-appointed family values crowd fears that recklessly protecting a girl's health in this way could encourage promiscuous behavior. Or, to put their message another way: The cervical cancer vaccine could turn your daughter into a tramp."

Is there a way to add some stem cells to Ann Coulter without harming the innocent? She has claimed Clinton's philandering, loose ways show a direct correlation to his latent homosexuality. I did not realize she had a degree in psychosexual behavior. I guess she really does have it going on, huh? Hee, hee, hee...

Ernie is a cheap shot artist masquerading with a little help from his friend, Max Barnes Brummett, as an intellectual.

By the president's impeccable logic, all fertility clinics should be shut down, since they result in the discard of embryos and thus the destruction of human life--or, fertility should be regulated so that only one egg at a time is fertilized and implanted, ensuring no waste.

Try that and see how it goes over with your constituents. If it's really a moral issue for the reasons put forward, he has no other moral choice than to speak out against fertility science.

Otherwise, he should help himself to a steaming cup of STFU.

"She has claimed Clinton's philandering, loose ways show a direct correlation to his latent homosexuality. I did not realize she had a degree in psychosexual behavior."

Are you serious? I don't follow what she says but that sounds like something she'd say. If there is any reason for it, it would be hypomania. Hypomanics are a bit more manic than normal and a very increased sex life is a common result. Hypomaniacs tend to be very charasmatic and successful.

I think it is important to note that Sens. Bill Frist and Orrin Hatch, both extremely conservative, are in support of stem cell research.
Hatch gave a moving, well thought out commentary for CBS's Sunday Morning last week as to why he is both pro-life and pro-stem cell research.
The gist is that the research isn't a magic bullet and it would take 10 years to work through the science. Now with the veto, it will be 12 years (the 10 years and the two years before Bush leaves office) and that the President is on the wrong side of popular opinion and, more importantly, progress.

And on environmental science: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/print?id=2242565

These embryos would be thrown away (murdered according to Bush) if they were not used for stem cell research. So answer these questions if you agree with him:

Where's the concern about those embryos thrown out (murdered)?

If Bush and some of you nuts really think it is murder then why allow any stem cell research at all?

Why allow fertility practices that result in these embryos?

Why aren't you volunteering your wives and daughters to give birth to the leftover embryos in order to save them from "murder?"

Answer those questions or shut up.

in regards to the religious issue, there is a scary article in today's WSJ (the most conservative daily) about a TX evangelical.. one of those psychos on tv i think.
anyway denotes that the evangelical agenda (or apocalyptic vision more like it) is much entrenched in the Bush administration foreign policy in regards to middle east.

THESE RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVES ARE FREAKSHOWS AND BELONG IN TENTS ON THE HIGHWAY, NOT IN THE WAR ROOM IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!

and i quote the article:
Standing on a stage bedecked with a huge Israeli flag, Mr. Hagee drew rapturous applause and shouts of "amen" as he hailed Israel for doing God's work in a "war of good versus evil."
Calls for Israel to show restraint violate 'God's foreign policy statement" towards Jews, he said, citing a verse from the Old Testament that promises to "bless those who bless you" and curse "the ones who curse you."

President Bush sent a message to the gathering praising Mr. Hagee and his supporters for spreading the hope of God's love and the universal gift of freedom."

GEORGE BUSH BELONGS IN AN INSANE ASYLUM NOT IN THE OVAL OFFICE
WTF, MAN?????
THESE PEOPLE ARE CRAZY

oh and by the way

THERE IS NO GOD!!!!

Thanks Spirit for the info on my question.

I expected Ernie had backup for his statement but I like to confirm.

Trust Allah but tie up your camel.

The gist is that the research isn't a magic bullet and it would take 10 years to work through the science. Now with the veto, it will be 12 years (the 10 years and the two years before Bush leaves office) ..

Good observation..but other nations have no or few "total fucking morons"
running their science-government programs. The result of this unholy marriage between Repugs and Christain Fanatic party will be that instead of finding leading cures and exporting medicenes to every nation on Earth we will be importing cures.
Isn't this the goal of Bushco and his maggot company? Indebt us to other nations so that future Americans must struggle to survive.
Why do they truly hate America so much?
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You've heard the saying "what separates the men from the boys." Well this issue separates the real Republicans like Reagan from the Republican phonies like Bush.

Scientists are a bunch of know-it-alls. I stand with President George Bush and his courageous stance against secular humanism. The Bible is the sole authority for humanity; Jesus relied on faith, not human science, for his cures.

Scientists are a bunch of know-it-alls. I stand with President George Bush and his courageous stance against secular humanism. The Bible is the sole authority for humanity; Jesus relied on faith, not human science, for his cures.

Research all you want. Those that wish to can generously donate to projects, universities, etc. But don't spend taxpayor (read my) money on this field. Bush did not prohibit research, only use of taxpayor money.

Oh, and by the way, there is no jackass.

Oh, and by the way, there is no jackass.

Well said you of the 44% (see the TFM post). Don't spend my tax money on killing my relatives, either. Especially those who live in foreign countries. I'm with Jesus all the way, too. Not only will he work for low wages while he does those miracles, but he sure can play some mean baseball.

Anon 32?

Jesus relied on faith, not human science, for his cures.

An whom might you be advocating in today's modern world is stepping into Jesus's garmet?

An with that statement - maroon - you can't ever use an asprin, any kind of meds, go to a doctor or a hospital. You are hereby banished from any breakthroughs that might save your dumb f***king moran ass that science has provided modern man.

"But don't spend taxpayor (read my) money on this field."

Why not? Because you think it's murder? If so, see the bold and blue questions above. Answer them or shut up.

"Federal funding for "facilities and administrative costs" won't necessarily bar an institution from doing any embryonic stem-cell research, provided the grant recipients are willing to jump through various accounting hoops. But nothing charged as a direct cost can be used to "subsidize" non-allowed research. As I read it, that means any kind of machinery or equipment acquired as part of a directly-funded project can't later (or simultaneously, for that matter) be used for embryonic research outside those few approved lines. That leaves a lot of labs with the choice between eschewing federal funds altogether, finding separate funding to buy a lot of redundant equipment, or focusing on research programs the feds like. Now, maybe embryonic research is sufficiently promising that there are plenty of places willing to do one of the first two. But larger labs with lots of resources, especially in the academic world, are likely to find themselves pushed toward option three.

So the problem isn't just that the ban results in less direct funding for embryonic research that can be made up easily enough elsewhere, it's that it warps the decisions of institutions by making the marginal cost of pursuing embryonic research much higher than some alternative (if less promising) project, even if both are directly funded from a private source, because the other project isn't going to require that you purchase a bunch of new equipment to avoid repurposing stuff from other projects. The distorting effect goes well beyond having to find alternative funding for specific research. So given that we're going to have some federal funding for scientific research, I think we should at least insist it not distort the ordinary developement of research any more than necessary."

Jesus relied on faith, not human science, for his cures.
Posted by: Anonymous Troll #32 | July 27, 2006 04:26 PM

I thought Jesus when to school under the wise men.

Get a clue TFM. Or maybe HEADON.

"Jesus relied on faith, not human science, for his cures.
Posted by: Anonymous Troll #32 | July 27, 2006 04:26 PM"

I presume you forego all modern medicine and medical procedures, anything developed since the early A.D.s.

You intellectuals don't need Bush and the Federal Gov. funding. Just hammer the Gates foundation for research money. I hear they have a little extra from Buffett--about $30 BILLION--surely that'll cover stem cell cures of everything. Oh I forgot. The Gates/ Buffett poster boys don't think health issues in the US, where they made their money, deserve funding. These boys should be able to spend all their dough on soup to nuts discovery, manufacturing and delivery in Africa and Lululand while the intellectual left plunders the "small" estates and regular taxpayers through the gov. to fund stem cell research and Bill Clinton clones.

Hey "Jackass",

Just a little thought. What if you are wrong and there is a God? Have you got a backup plan? I happen to belive that there is a God and that he has a plan for our lives and we will stand tall and give an account to him in the end. Now I may be wrong, and if I am then what does it matter, it will just be over.

But if I am right and you are wrong there will be Hell to pay. Just a thought.

REL,

I think God would rather have an honest unbeliever than someone who has faith only because they think it will keep them out of Hell. If that is your rationale for believing in God, you don't have faith, you have fear.

CV, you don't have a single clue what you're talking about, do you? Where do you think stem cells come from, you think they chop off the heads of newborns to harvest those little devils or what?

and if Jesus doesn't want us to use medical science and new discoveries to save lives, then why did He give us the scientists who have the skills to do these amazing things?

I wonder how long mr anon troll #-whatever would stick to his belief that Jesus doesnt want us to rely strictly on faith for curing disease if it was him or one of his family members who needed that treatment. I bet he'd get another phone call from Jesus - he had to have gotten one to tell him that he was right in the first place - to tell him to go ahead on if it was his hide needed saving.

I think God would rather have an honest unbeliever than someone who has faith only because they think it will keep them out of Hell. If that is your rationale for believing in God, you don't have faith, you have fear.
Posted by: Anonymous Troll #32

What's the deal? This is a thinking person. I'm not used to that in a troll. I'm thinking you might not be a troll at all....but then I re-read your 4:26 post. Troll.

I am Uber-Troll. I am liberated from all trolling values except those I deem valid. I will to power, and I will to troll.

REL, are you hedging? Doesn't seem too Christian to play odds...

I respect your conviction, just don't trounce another's...

I see people on this planet...what do you see?

Religion is for the weak

for those who need to submit
to be told what to do
who can't figure it out for themselves
who are too dumb to think
too stupid to exist
religion is a con
god doesn't give a shit about you

religion will DESTROY us
it BRINGS US DOWN

it weakens us
it makes us into a bunch of pansies

quit religion
and get a life

And for those who think the bible is the word of god and is a guide for living your life...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

the book makes NO SENSE
is full of contradictions and ridiculous statements, page after page....

your TV GUIDE has more honesty and truth in it than your bible. a Road Map is a better guide to life than the bible. a cookbook has much more useful information than the bible...

throw the bible away

That's a WEAK way to approach religion.

God does NOT have a path for you, that's nonsense. What path is that? God's "special" plan is for you to go to work 5 days a week and sit on your ass in front of the television. Yip-ee! God is great! Thanks God for this fantastic plan!

All religion convictions are purely selfish! Now these conmen(ministers, preachers) got you dumbshits believing in "prosperity gospel". If you give Mr. Preacher Man a lot of money, you'll in turn be rewarded lots of money by God! I would really like to see an in-depth analysis for how this works. Hey! I got a better idea! WHY DON'T YOU HOLD ONTO YOUR MONEY IS THE FIRST PLACE DUMBASSES!

God's not so smart, is he?

Psychology student----what is your assessment of Miss Coulter? She is a bit over the top, an attention seeker, a stone thower; however, she is good for comic relief. Is there some kind of misfiring in her brain? As I mentioned on another post, if she once dated Bob Guicconne's(sp) son, she can be all that christian. Just an observation, not a judgment.....

About the HPV vaccine, I have a suggestion to the fundies on how to handle it:

LIE TO YOUR CHILDREN BY TELLING THEM IT'S FOR SOMETHING ELSE. If the vaccine is given at around 8 years old, they really won't care. They are thinking about other things and by that time will have had so many vaccines given to them that they will just shrug and go on. It will be just one more.

Or don't lie. Just say it's so you won't get sick or something.

Pretty simple, isn't it? See how easy it is.