Arkansas Blog

"Demagogues and Dinner"

Hor's d'ouvers and Jesus Juice will be served.

Yikes. Way to gay-bait us.

Keep in mind that 11 states from Oregon to ARKANSAS to Mississippi had the choice of recognizing gay relationships.

All 11 said "nope" by blowout margins.

Keep in mind no voters have EVER said "yes" to gay marriage - just a few judges (3 or 4 in total across the US?)

Again, way to gay-bait us, and nice "fair and balanced" photo choice.

Did you select the picture of O.J. on Time vs. Newsweek?

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalistic_integrity )

I think GetReal should just get it over with and challenge Max/Warwick to a duel, much like the goofy Zell Miller did to Chris Matthews.
Pistols at dawn sir. Pistols at dawn. Or would prefer the sabre?

Uh oh for Beebe

Zell Miller didn't switch parties, he has been quoted as saying he will die a democrat, he just doesn't agree with the crazy liberals who have hijacked his party.

Asa gets Zell and Beebe gets Howard Dean.

Hmmm, who better represents the beliefs of Arkansans?

Go back to blogging on Huck in '08 you looney Rinos!

Here is what Zell Miller and others are trying to get into the American people's heads. A man of Middle Eastern extraction attempted to board an airplane in Houston with shoes that had been hollowed out with the components of a bomb (sans the explosive materials). The screeners wanted to detain him. The local cop didn't because he felt like he didn't have 'probable cause'. This is the kind of stupidity that people like Miller want to stop.

Zell Milller is an angry, bitter and disgustful ole politican.

He should, for his health's sake, probably retire from politics.

A$a will get no brownie points for bringing him to Arkansas.

Like pictures of Joan Crawford and Michael Jackson on a bad day, the picture of Zell says it all. You need no other information to look at the picture and see a crazy man.

And Google up! The crazy shoe bomber is looking like just another mentally insane person who had the bad fortune to act crazy and be a little dangerous right after 9-11 when everyone had the jitters. He is as much a part of al Qaeda as I am. He belongs in a nut ward, not a prison.

If all crazy people are now labeled terrorists we're in a world of trouble. Again.....think about that and look at this picture of nutty Zell.

Anon 12:34,
Thank you for re-affirming the reasons that I am a democrat. If your ilk consider probable cause to be stupidy, then I am darn proud to say I am a democrat.
If you really wanted smaller government, then you'd stand up for civil liberties instead of deriding them time and time again. Instead, you want small government in theory but big government when it is convenient for your fear-mongering agenda.

Go Dems in '08

The crazy shoe bomber is looking like just another mentally insane person who had the bad fortune to act crazy and be a little dangerous right after 9-11 when everyone had the jitters.

A hollowed out shoe with bomb components in it does not equal probable cause. He isn't the crazy one---you are.

Thank you for re-affirming the reasons that I am a democrat. If your ilk consider probable cause to be stupidy, then I am darn proud to say I am a democrat.

No, I consider probable cause to be a hallowed out shoe with bomb components in it. Thank you for reaffirming why I am not a liberal democrat.

Miller did not leave the Democratic Party, the party left him.

And this is the treatment he gets. If he holds the same beliefs as average Americans and does not go along with the extreme left wing, he is roasted.

Yall are way to transparent on this one.

Zig-Zag Zell (as he is known in Georgia) is newsworthy only because he claims to still be a Democrat while parroting all the right-wing neo-con nonsensical Republican drivel. Zell should do what other right-wingers like Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond, and Phil Gramm who couldn't abide progressive ideas did--switch parties. Zell's charade as a Democrat is about as credible as a hooker preaching abstinence.

No, I consider probable cause to be a hallowed out shoe with bomb components in it. Thank you for reaffirming why I am not a liberal democrat.

Fortunately, most Arkansans also consider that probable cause. Also, most Arkansans would vote for Zell Miller in they had the opportunity. John Kerry need not apply.

Gosh, "GetReal" why the focus on gay sex? That's all you republicans can talk about: gay sex. Just seems weird...

Zell Miller represents a significant element that used to exist in the 'Scoop Jackson, Hubert Humphrey' days of the democratic party. The left wing nuts ran them off.

Zell Miller, another perfectly good argument for the forced sterilization of the retarded.

Oh and if he were ever in prison, his prison name would be, "Bitch".

The RPA knows what it's doing. Zell Miller will ignite the in-bred homophobic hillbillies and the warriors of the Barcalounger Batallion, Rudy Giuliani will turn out the upscale cocktail circuit, and John McCain will act as pied piper to the mushy-headed suburban "moderates" who couldn't pass a ninth grade civics quiz. You don't win elections with corporate con men alone.

Clay wins the prize for most Elitist (democratic) statements in one paragraph!!!!

You can say probable cause all you want, but probable cause that the shoe bomber is insane is not probable cause that he is an al Qaeda terrorist. Are you able to understand the difference between insane and terrorist? I sorta doubt it.

Maybe John Kerry can do a fundraiser for Beebe, oh, wait, he's already raised money from people like barbara Streisand.

:)

We're gonna win in November!

You can say probable cause all you want, but probable cause that the shoe bomber is insane is not probable cause that he is an al Qaeda terrorist. Are you able to understand the difference between insane and terrorist? I sorta doubt it.

I'm sure it would make all the difference in the world if I was on a plane that was blown up by an insane bomber as opposed to a terrorist bomber. Liberal Democrats equal nut cases with no shred of common sense.

Gosh, "GetReal" why the focus on gay sex? That's all you republicans can talk about: gay sex. Just seems weird...

It's because their own sexuality is so tenuous; and the only way they know how to run an election is through hate mongering. After all, it's not like they could win on the merits of their ideas/actions.

Zell Miller is a pathetic Republican joke. But Clay is correct is his assessment of who's a Zell fan and why it works.

Wackos supporting wackos. It is a sad time to be a Republican.

Who cares, gop wins (again) in congress in november! Do I hear 60 senators, anyone?

MAYBE in Ark????

I don't know, it just might work

I love gay people, they just don't deserve any special rights. Marriage was meant to be between a man and a woman. There was no couple called Adam and Steve in the Garden on Eden. Plus you folks don't know the half of the damage that would be done to families if gay marriage was legal.

75 U.S.Senators would be really cool.....then...we could get rid of a lot of useless taxes including the worst one...the DEATH TAX !

Governor Hutchinson is winning more bonus points daily in the Gov. race. Beebe is being out foxed ..Zell will help Asa. Holt will win and so will Delay.

"Adam and Steve" -man that's a good one! Did you just make that up? You're not only Real, you're original too!

And yep, even after 19 years with my wife, if those homos up the street were able to file joint tax returns and visit each other in the ICU, my marriage would sure be toast. We wouldn't stand a chance. Grandkids? Fuggitaboutit.

I love gay people, they just don't deserve any special rights...

You're correct; they don't deserve any 'special' rights...just the same rights as the rest of us.

...Plus you folks don't know the half of the damage that would be done to families if gay marriage was legal.

I'm sure gays are resting easier knowing you really love them despite the homophobic tone of your comment. They're not going to do anything to the 'family' that us heterosexuals haven't already done...in spades. In fact, I think they'll do better 'cause they won't waste time teaching their children that heterosexuals are ungodly and evil.

Get Real, you need to heed your moniker. There was no Adam and Eve either. Or garden of eden. And you shouldn't get to assign rules according to your own fantasy world.

Keep running off the Zell Millers from the democratic party. That will really enhance your electability among mainstream americans and especially within the south.

THE 'ADAM AND STEVE' BIT WAS NOT ME, BUT SOMEONE TYPING SOMETHING AND CITING IT 'GETREAL' IN THE NAME... THERE ARE NO LOGINS SO THIS IS POSSIBLE (AND HAS HAPPENED BEFORE RECENTLY)

Again, you can't attack the issues, so you attack the person (me) by writing a "fake post"

Brilliant - but it wasn't me.

Are you able to understand the difference between insane and terrorist? I sorta doubt it.

Yes, the insane bomber makes me a different degree of dead than the terrorist bomber. Have I got it right genius?

Did anyone else think he looks like Frank Broyles?

Well,
Ol' Zell will fire'em up for bigotry like no one else.

Is the divorce rate 50%? If it is, whose fault is it? Gays? Nah. It's because of straight people, not because of gays. Gays can't even get involved. The only way letting gays marry could affect straight marriage is if straight people protested gay marriage by getting divorces.

I have to echo what someone else said. Conservatives can raise tent thumpin' hell about sex. And then give you all the particulars...gory details...etc. Beats anything I've ever seen. I'll lay wager GetReal and his ilk knows more in rumor than any gay man about what goes on in a gay bedroom. They hear it from their "straight" buddies. All the particulars...gory details.

Marriage is a legal institution, not a religious one. If you don't believe that, run ask your preacher to grant you a divorce.

Keep running off the Zell Millers from the democratic party. That will really enhance your electability among mainstream americans and especially within the south.
Posted by: Anonymous | July 10, 2006 02:08 PM

None of us actually ran him off, but it is the fantasy come true of every true southerner--the lunatic relative with the plate in his head has gone missing.

I want to see if Zell Miller will challenge Max Brantley do a duel?

I wonder if he will be able to get his civil war swords through security

The only thing that left Zell was his sanity

I mean was George Wallace not available?

naanaanaanaabooboo

See ya, wouldn't want to be ya.

There are crazy people in government just like in business and everywhere else. We all have to put up with them but we don't have to empower them.

If Asa! wants to associate with this nut, that's what he will draw to his campaign. We will all see how well that serves him.

Marriage is a legal institution, not a religious one. If you don't believe that, run ask your preacher to grant you a divorce.

Unfortunately, what you say is true and is a greater threat to marriage than homosexuality. It doesn't make it right but it is true.

I wonder what would have happened if we had put any social injustice to a vote. I believe there are some recent surveys that had people against interracial marriage at 25 or 30%. In the last few years! Just think if it had been put to a vote in 1968. These so-called 'values voters' are the same people that would have viciously attacked it.

Marriage is obviously both a religious and civil institution. Marriage the civil institution should be applied equally amongst any two people who wish to enter into the arrangement.

The religious insitution is subject to meeting the standards of a person's community of faith and to his or her priest, rabbi, guru, swami, or indian chief. Until we are officially declared a theocracy, religious standards should have no place in civil marriage.

There once was a man named Zell

From a state where Republicans did well

So Zell changed his positions, to fit the right-wing inquisition

And his credibility is shot to hell

Marriage is obviously both a religious and civil institution. Marriage the civil institution should be applied equally amongst any two people who wish to enter into the arrangement.

The religious insitution is subject to meeting the standards of a person's community of faith and to his or her priest, rabbi, guru, swami, or indian chief. Until we are officially declared a theocracy, religious standards should have no place in civil marriage.

Free N.A.M.B.L.A.!

Pedophiles have rights, too!

18 is just an age! ('r' movies, working' paying taxes, driving--all before 18)

Why stop with breaking down one barrier???? N.A.M.B.L.A. and the pedophiles are just the next wave of "social justice"!!!

DO i hear "another stupid issue no one supports except activist judges, year 2012???"

(you can't legally deny them of their rights, or incest, or polygamy if same sex marriage is ok'd now can you? that would be intolerant!)

Marriage is critical to our culture whether you define it as civil or religious. Our modern trend to cheapen it by making it easy to end only jeopardizes all of us. The damage is being done to all of us regardless of how you define it. It is the glue that holds us together and the glue is almost non-existent.

You're a little too real there GetReal. Get a life, you'll find alot more there than fear.

Actually, I fully support the N.A.M.B.L.A.

Again, you can't attack the issues, so you attack the person (me) by writing another "fake post"

Get Real --

Please rank the following wars in order of importance (and please include any wars I have omitted):

war on terror
war on christmas
war on easter
war on marriage
war on drugs

**ANOTHER PERSON POSED AS ME, THIS TIME (GET REAL - THE REAL ONE)

WOW.

IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY 2:57 -- I'LL TAKE YOUR IMPERSONATION AS A COMPLIMENT

THAT WAS NOT ME**

The sooner gays understand that gay marriage will never be accepted the better. There's no discrimination. Gays can still marry someone of the opposite sex, with the same restrictions that are placed on heterosexual couples.

Your only hope is to focus on civil unions, for that is the only legal recognition that you will ever attain. It looks like the tide is turning even in liberal Massachussetts with the state supreme court's recent decision on gay marriage (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/G/GAY_MARRIAGE?SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-07-10-09-55-17)
.

Tim Hutchinson's marriage failed. Did the gays destroy that, or was it the fact he was screwing a younger woman?

Ah, Hutchinson family values. . .

Well, I take it back. Every post here signed GetReal has been me. So sue me.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if it were all that simple. We could make people stay married and they would work out their problems and begin to communicate and raise their child with love and high self esteem to find jobs for which they have a passion and we would all meet at the neighborhood pool or the grocery, or the one true church and wouldn't even have to talk because of the quiet peaceful agreement that exists at all times. Reminds me of home.

#1 War on Marriage
#2 War on Terror
#3 War on Christmas
#4 War on Easter
#5 War on Drugs
#6 War on School Prayer

Crossing party lines to support the president of the other party is understandable. Agreeing with your own party 100% of the time indicates a lack of independent thinking.

However, speaking at the other party's convention and demonizing your own party's candidate for president in what has been called one of the meanest, fact-deficient convention speechs in history is not understandable.

Zell Miller left the Democratic Party on Sept. 1, 2004, with his Joe McCarthy-esque keynote speech to the Republican National Convention in which he slandered John Kerry's patriotism and lied up and down about Kerry's record. It was the equivalent of John McCain giving the keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention and trashing Bush as a draft-dodging simpletion. If McCain afterward said he was "still a Republican," FOX News would have hung him in effigy.

Zell Miller represents a new twist on the Vietnam War era saying among the infantry:

Fighting for peace is like fu**king for chastity.

Haha, HILARIOUS IMITATION!!!

I have NO PROBLEM with you signed posts as me, DeathByInches -- I could care less...

IT JUST PROVES That Dems will not EVER debate the ISSUES, THEY JUST ATTACK THE PERSON~~~

"can we talk about a new approach to affirmative action" -- "RACIST!!!!"

"i support civil unions, but i think gay marriage is a step too far" -- "HOMOPHOBE"

"sure i'd vote for a woman, just not hillary" -- "SEXIST!!!"

"look, we have to eliminate the terror threat in the mideast. last time we sat back and embassies (iran, kenya, tanzania), planes (twa), hostages, bombings (wtc 93, uss cole) happened. we have to fight back" -- "CULTURAL IMPERIALIST!"

"i don't really like bush, but it seems the vocal dems are attacking christianity - bush is the lesser of 2 evils" -- "RELIGIOUS BIGOT!"

(****KEEP ON WITH THE FAKE POSTS YOU IMPOSTOR, YOU ARE JUST PROVING MY POINT!! :):):) LOL -- CANT DISCUSS ISSUES, SO YOU ATTACK ME AS A PERSON! LOL)

N.A.M.B.L.A. - got as much credibility as you GetReal. If you or anybody else takes their drival seriously - you need help and I can reccomend a good shrink.

How old are you anyway? You've got no real substance, you jump on this blog and make wild ass statements with no backup. You repeat the fear and drivel of the Thuglicans and you sound like a 10 year old bully on the playground.
Grow up! Think! Reason! I know I've said this before, but as a democrat I'm ever optimistic and always say there's hope for everyone. However, you are getting on my very last nerve.
Go over to the Family Co Blog - you can post away with your ignorance and hate under the cover of your anon handle - you're gonna love it, and those cowards are gonna love you.
But for God's sake, every post I read from you - I believe that God will owe me those minutes back which you stole from me spreading your fear, hate and destructive ideology.

And you guys wonder why I just use anonymous.

Tim Hutchinson's marriage failed. Did the gays destroy that, or was it the fact he was screwing a younger woman?

Uh, I'll go out on a limb here and say it was his inability to keep his pants zipped. But I'm sure the Clintons had something to do with it...

BlueTicker:

"but as a democrat I'm ever optimistic and always say there's hope for everyone"

except for that awful kenneth lay who even though he is dead your guys excoriate

or for rush limbaugh, who was found not guilty, and had, waht, a total of 30 pills over some yearrs? (way to believe a fired maid)

hope for bush? not on this blog

Hope for Christians? not here, they are "stupid" "brainwashed" "following the leaders"... nevermind the good that churches do in the community

If that is your 'optimistic hope', then count me out.

#1 thing i learned from this blog = Democrats are LESS tolerant than Republicans (and i never thought i could believe that!!!)

:(

I know this will get me labled "elitest," but. . .

Coming from South Arkansas, I know way too many people who don't bat an eye when someone walks around using racial slurs in front of their children. They think it's "natural" for Dad (or whoever lives with Mom) to be drunk and shirtless grilling burgers at 11:00 on a Saturday. They may have curse words tattooed on their back, and they may throw things at their loved ones when they get angry. They like to hunt illegally, shooting off of the road and killing more animals than the law allows. They may cheat on their spouse/"live-in," if the opportunity presents itself. There is a damn good chance they will operate a car or ATV while intoxicated while their child is with them, and they may let an underage child operate one or both without proper training.

Mention gay marriage to those people, though, and you'll see the color drain from their faces. They do NOT want that kind of negative influence on their children. They LOVE their children, and would sooner die than see them exposed to such SIN and RECKLESSNESS. It's not right, and it ought to be punished.

Hand me another beer, would you? I'm about to teach my kid how to clean a rifle. He's old enough to be trusted with it now that he's ten.

Richard, couldn't agree more (on somre parts), seriously. I guess the difference is SOCIETY attempts to correct all those other negative behaviors - the kid learns at school (even the media) don't use racial slurs, don't drink and drive, wear clothing :)

With gay marriage, etc, SOCIETY doesn't attempt to correct it or speak out, rather in some cases society encourages it (media, universities, semi-courts).

You were honest, not elitist. And so was I. Now I wait for the personal attacks to come in at my last statement (and i can't wait for a fe more "impersonators claiming to be me" such as DBI lol)

Hey GetReal,

You forgot one 'war': The war on sanctimonious, self-righteous republican know-it-alls.

forgotone, if you'll notice, that wasn't ME - it was someone pretending to be me

Wouldn't it be wonderful if it were all that simple. We could make people stay married and they would work out their problems and begin to communicate and raise their child with love

If people's lives depended on working out their marriages they would. When you make it so simple to end it, people will take the easy way out. It really depends on your priorities. Not that long ago it was not that easy to end a marriage and our divorce rates were almost non existent.

"Tim Hutchinson's marriage failed. Did the gays destroy that, or was it the fact he was screwing a younger woman?
Ah, Hutchinson family values. . ."

More hatefull liberal drivel.....

The more posts like that apear on this blog the more you guys strengthen the GOP.

Keep it up "DBI" and friends.

if zell from hell is off his meds,
he might challenge Asa! to a
duel.

how much will it cost arkansas
taxpayers to fumigate the state
after he leaves.

What I like about liberal blogs and the regulars who frequent them is the originality of responses. It doesn't matter what the issue, you usually get the 'same old same old' all of the time.

Man, the Repukes are bringing the "big guns" for A$a!

If people's lives depended on working out their marriages they would.

Are you suggesting the death penalty here? Why didn't Hutchinson's life depend on staying married?

Explain yourself.

Just when I think that the republicans have done themselves in I read these liberal democratic responses and I know that no matter how bad the republicans do they can't fail. I really prefer more competition for the republicans. You guys on the left are so much in willy wonka land that you enable the republicans to continue no matter how many mistakes they make.

I'm saying that people could work out many more problems than they choose to. The difference is incentive. You would think that honoring your vows and protecting your children from the ravages of divorce would be enough. Unfortunately, people are not willing to make the sacrifice.

So what incentives are you offering?

I understand after McCain, Guiliani, and Miller, Asa! plans to bring Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck. Can't the man do a fund raiser without having to bring someone in who will put aside their personal beliefs to be seen on the stage with him.

Of course with Miller, there are no persinal beliefs except that he hates homosexuals.
And he probably still endorses slavery.

And the comments about all the wars on marriage, etc., if you want to put prayer back in schools, be ready for the Mormon payer, the Catholic prayer. They all aren't going to be SBC.

And as long as I was writing tests, there were a lot of chenistry and physics students who were doing a lot of praying, for the ability to take the test and then in the hopes that I would curve the scores.

Or, you think that if the law were different people would make the sacrifice? We just passed covenant Marriage. Is that very popular with people that you know?

Tim Hutchinson's marriage failed for the same reason that liberals and conservatives marriages fail---they don't have to stick to their vows. Getting rid of a wife or a husband for a more desireable model is leading us to oblivion as a culture.

You can't change people by changing laws alone. You have a culture that is totally accepting of divorce. There are no forces in our culture that put a restraint on it. If people faced unrelenting social chastisement and isolation when they chose to divorce you would begin to see some change.

So Beebe folks, why aren't you telling everyone about your internal poll showing your guy only up within the margin of error? Two or three points is it?

The trend isn't going your way.

I notice that you guys are really pissed about this real conservative Democrat campaigning for a real conservative Republican.

They get that at Fellowship Bible but they just change churches.

People make poor choices in marriage. They can't live with those choices.

Did you ever know anyone who made a happy second marriage?

Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, our culture will not get back on the right track in regards to marriage unless a cataclysmic event forces us to. We may have to lose our culture and everything for the kind of change to occur that gives us any chance of survival. People just don't make that kind of drastic change unless they are forced to by circumstances beyond their control.

No, they just go from one spouse to the other. It is just serial monogomy. Divorce doesn't solve anything it just makes it worse. Divorce has become a multi-billion dollar business so those who could change it won't. We are going to either since we prefer just getting another model.

They get that at Fellowship Bible but they just change churches.

The churches have much to answer for. They are held to a higher standard than the world. They know better but they bow to the wishes of their congregations so they don't lose members. You expect the world to compromise itself but churches are held to a much higher standard. Their conduct is shameful.

You guys on the left are so much in willy wonka land that you enable the republicans to continue no matter how many mistakes they make.

Yeah, that's us declaring we'll be greeted with flowers and love as glorious liberators...and that the insurgency is in it's dying throes...and that Iraqi oil will pay for the war...and that a gazillion dollar deficit is really good for the economy...and that out-sourcing is really good for the middle class...and that keeping health-care in the hands of insurance companies is good policy (never mind that the ranks of the uninsured keep on growing)...and that Bush isn't tossing out our Civil Liberties right and left...and on and on.

As usual anonymous, your comment is a just another attempt (strangelove like) to shovel out the same crap. 'Oh, I'm so neutral and I really don't like Bush but...here comes the same ole generalized stereotypical stuff.

some models are pretty desireable.

and I didn't have sex with that woman....

GetReal - a little education here son.

except for that awful kenneth lay who even though he is dead your guys excoriate

KEN LAY WAS CONVICTED OF STEALING MILLIONS BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS

or for rush limbaugh, who was found not guilty, and had, waht, a total of 30 pills over some yearrs? (way to believe a fired maid)

RUSH LIMBAUGH WAS NEVER TRIED OR FOUND INNOCENT - HE STRUCK A DEAL WITH THE FEDS

hope for bush? not on this blog

THERE IS NO HOPE FOR BUSH.

Come on - again do a little research before you open your mouth.

Hey Ark. Times - you always dismiss all comparisons to Wes Clark, Rodney Slater, James Lee Witt, etc... by saying they aren't running for Governor - well neither is Tim Hutchinson so shut up about him. You guys beat him and trashed him for two years - congratulations you ran him out of the state. now let it go.

and I didn't have sex with that woman....

Zelda, you left out the above in your long list of boring and trite statements. Wasn't this your hero---Clinton?

He was just properly chastised for the good of us all.

It was the threat of gay marriage that destroyed Tim H.'s marriage.

I'm going to kick the ass of whomever keeps impersonating me.

Gay people wanting civil rights made Asa's brother cheat on his wife!!!

:-0

On second thought, I've decided to kick my own ass for my own good.

Um, I made the comments regarding Tim Hutchinson, not the Times. I was amused by the response.

Here's why Tim's situation is relevant:

"GetReal" brought up gay marriage. The common argument against gay marriage or civil unions is that it will "destroy marriage." I was pointing out that, for a camp jumping up and down to preserve marriage, they have some tenuous ties in the sibling department.

The fact is, marriage is a religious ceremony and the state recognizes it for the sake of protecting inheritance and power of attorney purposes. Whether your church choses to recognize a same sex union is none of my business, because I don't attend your church.

I DO live in and pay taxes in the same country and state, and I don't have a problem with gay people who are in a loving and monogamous relationship sharing the same access to property inheritance, POA, etc.

If people DO have a problem with that, I understand. I won't tell you how to feel, or call you a biggot. All I ask is that you don't try to use the laws of our nation or state to keep honest people from being happy.Constitutional amendments and laws that RESTRICT freedoms/rights are not to be tossed about frivilously.

Odds are good that there are things that go on in your home that other people would consider a sin, or at the very least a shame. Would you want the government to regulate your life for no other reason than that someone didn't like the way you lived it?

Snooze - you want it both ways, be quite about poor Tim Hutchison - but at every turn you start on Clinton.
Let me remind you, the Republicans started this back in 1998 - the politics of personal destruction - you defined it, you used it and you built your party around it. Now you cry like babies in a crib when the democrats, who've had just about enough, give you back some of your own medicine - you defined the game...deal with it, cause the "swift boaters" are coming your way.

I see everyone has been having fun in my absence. I am not a Republican, so I do not post fake posts using someone else's name...it's just too Rove.

I've been out all after noon interviewing a 90 year old WWII veteran who survived the Battle of the Bulge and got a Presidential commendation to prove it. As part of a 4 generation family of eye doctors, his good manners prevented him from commenting on the war we're in today in Iraq. But his pauses and stammers said plenty. His wife said we didn't want to hear her opinion of this war.

Since most WWII veterans aren't computer savvy, it's impossible for Zogby to take a poll of their opinions of the Bush War for Oil. But I already know, 18 of the 20 vets I've interviewed are totally against it and think Bush is nuts. 2 made no comments either way, so I just don't know.

Real men who have seen the horrors of war know you do everything within your power to not start the next one. Bush lied us into war with the wrong country, can one be dumber?

If Asa thinks bringing Rudy and Zell to Arkansas helps him, he's dumber than I thought. Whose next? Ann Coulter, Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff, Duke Cunningham? Maybe he can get a special pass so the woman who drowned all her kids can get out of prison for a few days to come stump for him. The late George Wallace is currently twice as popular in Arkansas than Zell Miller......oh how it makes me giggle like a little girl.

All your stupid rants in the world won't change the fact that the Republicans will keep the house and senate, and in fact INCREASE numbers in both bodies this November.

THAT makes me giggle like a little girl.

(p.s. if the war is all about oil, then why invade the whole country? why are we in baghdad? there's no oil within hundreds of miles from baghdad.

it's in the extreme south by basra, and in the extreme north (just a little) around mosul

so why not just "occupy" basra and mosul and leave the rest to pot.. why be in baghdad, why waste money monitoring elections and advising on constitutions? why insisting on women's right to vote and freedom of religion?

oh yeah, it's because WE ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE IRAQI PEOPLE.)

"oh yeah, it's because WE ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE IRAQI PEOPLE"

Now that takes the cake,
all of your selfs posting Anonymous/GetWhatever/Anonymous/infinitum, will never convince the Real people on this blog that you care about anyone other than yourself, period.
Do us all a favor and Reel in your Multiple personalities Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde act for one day please.

Coming from South Arkansas, I know way too many people who don't bat an eye when someone walks around using racial slurs in front of their children. They think it's "natural" for Dad (or whoever lives with Mom) to be drunk and shirtless grilling burgers at 11:00 on a Saturday...
Posted by: Richard Roe

Excellent post Richard. Best of the day.

Again, way to gay-bait us, and nice "fair and balanced" photo choice.
Posted by: GetReal

I've looked at the photo choice (as much as I can stand to look at it, that is) and I don't see anything wrong with it. That's what he looks like. He's gesturing with his hands. He doesn't look like a mad man. No drool or foam coming from his mouth, best I can tell. It's a perfectly good photo to use. It's him to a T.

Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

Found on Craigslist:

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

106 replies? Is that a record Max?

106 replies? Is that a record Max?
Posted by: FortSmithBoy

Record is: Charter school open line. 397 comments.

Crazy.

Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
Posted by: RLR

Thank you, RLR. Thank you very much.

RLR~

I wonder what you will say on your deathbed?

"Boy, i wish i'd spent more time denying God and being an atheist?" or "Lord, i accept your grace and forgive me"

(i've never heard anyone on their deathbed regret believing in God, but i've known older people who wished they had received the love and forgiveness lots sooner.)

"(p.s. if the war is all about oil, then why invade the whole country? why are we in baghdad? there's no oil within hundreds of miles from baghdad."

Son, have you ever tried to rape just a little part of a woman? You have to control the whole girl or you got nothing. Raping half of Iraq won't work either. So your argument won't hold water, the Bush water you're desperately trying to carry.

And then to turn around and say you care about the Iraqi people.....tut tut tut I say. In 3 years we've made heaping steaming bloody piles of body parts out of the Iraqi civilians. Please, never practice your love on me, thank you. You and Bush are lovin them folks plumb to death!

While you're not sharing in the Bush-Cheney-Halliburton oil profits, you'll try any line to justify the take over of that nasty little country that sits atop the 3rd largest oil reserve in the world. Nice try, but no one is buying it.

And be sure and cover the Bush attempt at world domination by screaming about GAYS GAYS GAYS. You bet one of them creepy queers crawled thru Timmy Hutchinson's window and broke up his Jesus induced marriage. You double damn betcha!

Go peddle your stinkin fish at the Ark Fam site....they're IQ is low enough to buy about half of what you're peddling. A Pox.....I mean it....a pox on you!

At least you dems are "tolerant" -- just kidding. You all have taught me just how hypocritical liberals are.

And its a shame you guys don't have kids, your position is a DYING BREED the next century!@@!! hahah!

I'm pretty sure since you're 12, you've never been near anyone on their deathbed. But thanks for giving your imagination a workout.

In my final moments as my heart stops beating I have a nice 2 lb rock sitting by my front door and I figure I'll have just enough time to run chunk it thru the front window of the Baptist Church across the street. If you happen to be around, pay attention because I'll be using my last breath to holler, Burn to Hell Zell!* You watch that calling a non-believer a pussy.....thems fightin words!

*Actually with my system of beliefs, or lack there of, I don't believe there is a hell for Zell to burn in. One of the few sad thoughts us non-believers have, ya know.

Dear 8:45 True Believer,

Why should I want to believe in a God who has created a spiritual concentration camp in the afterlife and uses extortion and fear to get followers?
We fought the Nazis to get rid of such places and you have the unmitigated gall to talk about love and forgiveness.
Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
You have no idea how many deathbed scenes are devoted to Buddha, to ancestors, to Allah, to Mother Mary, to pagan gods, to nothing in particular, and to the Dallas Cowboys.
Religion was designed long ago as another way to have power over the minds of men, often at the expense of women and children. Look how they still try to boss you around.
Take a good look at what you're pushing. It's the most powerful and addictive drug there is to confuse the human mind.
Besides, I mostly see you True Believer types spending your time making Christians rather than being Christians.

Death has no hold over me for I have been at it's door before. If you want to let your imagination run free with the possibilities of what lies beyond, be my guest. Just don't try and BS me about it.

Colonel Travesty

what hath zell wrought?

RLR~

I wonder what you will say on your deathbed?

No Need to Say nothing Im a Universalist .

Bob Dylan wrote "he who is not busy being born is busy dying."

I think I prefer the former to the latter. Count me in for reincarnation. "Deja vu all over again, Stinkbug," as my Yogi Zen master used to say before he whacked my head. (The sound of one hand clapping, you know....)

Monsieur Reptile

Let's have Sunday non-services at DBI's. Bring lawn chairs and your favorite beverage! Drinking and dancing starts promptly at 10:00 a.m.

Way to go RLR. We have a new "post of the day."

Anon, Anon, Anon GetReal:

Why don't you say what you want to say and then shut up? What we can't tolerate is your multiple posts, often offering replies to your own posts, as though you are several people in agreement.
I think that if you have a job, you are a slacker, spending half your time on the internet attacking us "liberal trash."
Give it a rest.

Cowards like this guy deserve only one treament...silence.

He's sitting in a cubicle or in his bedroom somewhere hitting "refresh" every minute or so, so he can see what kind of response his latest post provokes. He's a pathetic coward and wannabee, who thinks he's found his 15 minutes of fame right here. Every post directed at educating, correcting or rebutting what he's said is time and productivity and life that has been sucked out of us for his personal gratification. This is a small man who needs to be shut out.
Next time you recognize this poor creature on this blog - do not answer - do not acknowledge. He'll go away and try to find another venue to justifiy his pitiful existance.

BlueTicker, you are absolutely correct, and only a few days ago I vowed to not read or respond to the ANONS on the blog.
I repeat my vows tonight.

Party: yes. 10 am.....no way....a brunch, shall we say 2ish, would be great!

DBI,

Will your choir be doing any Bo Diddley or John Lee Hooker per chance?

Bro' Jake

Just heard the latest about the five soldiers who raped an Iraqi girl, killed her family, then burned the bodies and threw the weapon into a river. She was 14. Her little sister was 5.
Maybe the Getreals and Anons who frequent this post and defend the Bush administration can somehow justify this, but I fail to see how.
Shame, that's what I feel, and outrage.

Dave,

People were brutally murdered while American troops were in Kosovo but Bill Clinton is not to blame.

I do not see how you could blame President Bush for the actions of individual soldiers.

Why would anyone who supports the President need to justify this?

Anything But Straight
July 11, 2006
To Read Online CLICK HERE

DOZIER'S DOOZIE

In an effort to ban same-sex marriage, white evangelical leaders have entered into a sordid marriage of convenience with a few like-minded black preachers. This unholy alliance is not a beacon of true diversity, but rather a diversity of ways to attack people who are different or hold divergent beliefs. In a perverse way, these ministers have advanced equality in that they have proven, if nothing else, that hate can be colorblind.

Just last week, for example, a leading anti-gay black preacher and ally of Jeb Bush, Rev. O'Neal Dozier, spewed bigoted remarks about Muslims on a right wing radio show. He explained that he was leading the charge to block an Islamic Center from being built in a Fort Lauderdale suburb because "Islam is a dangerous religion."

Instead of apologizing for his remarks, Dozier threw gasoline on the fire in an interview with The Miami Herald. The preacher explained in no uncertain terms that Islam was a synonym for Osama.

"We don't want our area to be a breeding ground for terrorists," Dozier said.
Dozier sounds an awful lot like former segregationist Rev. Jerry Falwell, who in 2002 told 60 Minutes, "I think Muhammad was a terrorist."

This week, Dozier will be leading a protest at a Pompano Beach Commission meeting to lobby against plans to build the new mosque. He has assembled a number of conservative preachers who seemingly believe that only their brand of Christianity should be allowed a home in South Florida.

Of course, these preachers won't flat out say they are against constitutionally protected freedom of religion, expression, association and speech. So, Dozier's partner in crime, Rev. Alonzo C. Neal of Antioch Missionary Baptist Church, explained that Muslims were not the problem - it was their behavior.

"It's not their religion," said Neal, "itâ?Ts their track record."

Is it just me or is this language eerily similar to the "love the sinner, hate the sin" rhetoric used against gays?

Funny, but I don't remember mainstream Muslims causing mayhem in Florida. However, I do remember busybody fundamentalist Christians harassing women outside the state's abortion clinics. I do seem to recall neo-Puritans terrorizing judges and family members during the disgraceful Terri Schiavo debacle. It seems these preachers should worry about the track records of their evangelical friends before they point the finger at Muslims.

Furthermore, it is amusing to see the contorted attempts at tolerance by these "men of God." Dozier and Neal have unending love for gays that don't act gay and Muslims that don't act Muslim. It is remarkably generous of them to love and accept all who act and believe exactly as they do.

The Dozier incident is reminiscent of 1998 when the extreme right teamed up with the late football star and preacher Reggie White to bash gays. In a speech to the Wisconsin State Legislature, White proclaimed that Asians can turn a TV into a watch, blacks excel at celebration and dance, Latinos can fit 20 or 30 people into one house, and whites are great with money.

And more recently, one of the nation's leading African American "ex-gay" preachers, D.L. Foster, disgraced himself by attacking me for my Jewish faith and drove home his point by drawing a Hitler mustache on my picture.

It is worth noting that there is a rift in the GLBT community on how to handle attacks by African American preachers working in cahoots with the religious right. One side of the argument, articulated by writer Chelsea Jennings in The Washington Blade, says that it is counterproductive to compare ourselves to the civil rights movement. The polar opposite view comes from the group Faith in America, which claims that today's "religion based-bigotry" against gay people is a direct descendent from the civil rights era and should be confronted head-on.

I happen to agree with Faith in America. It is no coincidence that racists of yesteryear, such as Falwell, are today's leading anti-gay opponents. They are eager to gain black support to justify their latest pet prejudice. And, no one has convinced me that there is a marked difference between racism, religious persecution, sexism and homophobia. While each has its unique characteristics, they are all equally unjust.

The unholy alliance is having a measure of success. When the New York Court of Appeals ruled against same-sex marriage last week, Judge Robert S. Smith said comparing racism to homophobia was a false analogy.

Thankfully, preachers such as Dozier, Neal and Foster are making it easy to connect the dots and show that haters rarely confine their prejudices to one group. Instead of giving cover, this new marriage of malignance is uncovering the right wing's true narrow minded agenda - in black and white.

You damn right I blame this administration for this brutal rape and murder. When an admisistration thumbs it's nose at the rule of law, abandons our commitment to the Geneva Convention, and supports torture, it fosters a belief system which led to this crime.
The fish rots from the head down.

oh yeah, it's because WE ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE IRAQI PEOPLE.)

This is us caring about the Iraqis?? Well, I guess that's apropos considering what Bush has done to his own country.

I'll take a straight-up enemy any day.

Amen Dave...hell yeah I hold Bush responsible. He's a small, petty man whose example to the soldiers/country is do whatever it takes to get your way.

I love it when you liberal loonies act as if Middle Eastern oil was something we could take or leave. If you found yourselves without it for a month you would be demanding that the US send its military in and do whatever was necessary to get it. You couldn't go without your hairdryers and electric toothbrushes. You can sit fat and happy and pontificate all day long as long as GIs pay the price.

Hey Anonypuss,

How much was the gas price before the war? Hmmmm....all those GIs died so we could have higher prices at the pump. I'm soooooo thankful.

All those TRILLIONS of dollars could've gone for far better things in helping our society. Talk about a waste (sort of like your mind little feller).

Col Travesty

Why doesn't Bush bring the oil home? He is afraid it will cut the profits of his rich big oil buddies.

You liberal loonies whine now but you may be doing something a lot more than whining if we put our tails between our legs and get out of the middle east. There are not shortage of your loony cousins in the middle east and if one of them takes over and shuts off the oil from us you will be singing a very different tune.

What do you think the gas price would be if we lost middle eastern oil?

Anonymous,

You seem good at logic. How about this fact:

Iraq is pumping 900,000 barrels per day--considerably less than the pre-war production level of 2.2 million-2.4 million barrels per day.

If we had left Saddam and Iraq alone, would you even have an argument about middle eastern oil.

By the way....how comes it's "our" middle eastern oil?

The Ugly American marches on!

Col Travesty

Would you like to deal with Sadam while he was in Kuwait on his way to Saudi Arabia? Americans have very short memories. Probably from watching too much tv.

How much do you think that Osama would charge you for a barrel of oil? That is assuming that he would sell it to us.

You need to look beyond the end of your nose and think about what is going on. We can not maintain our lifestyle with less oil. You lefties refuse to let us drill in Alaska and offshore so we are really in a bind. The risk we face today is far greater than you acknowledge. When it becomes apparent it will be too late.

Anonymous,

You seem good at logic...

Ha...a morning funny...thanks!

"The risk we face today is far greater than you acknowledge. When it becomes apparent it will be too late." Anonymouse

Funny. That's what we've been saying about Bush and his henchmen all along. Myopia appears to be your strong suit.

Anyway, this item might help us solve our energy needs and get off our addiction to oil which you so adamantly push:

Coors Brewing Company in Golden, Colorado, has spent $2.3 million to double its program to turn wasted beer into ethanol. Hey, we knew there had to be some legal way to chug a beer while behind the wheel.

Jake da Snake

So, according to Anonymous's own admission, it's all about oil.
I guess the Republicans are now the Grand Oil Party, huh?

Col Travesty

I personally wish Sadam had marched all the way into Saudi Arabia and squashed them like a bug. Bush's best friends, the Saudis are no friends of ours.

I would gladly walk rather than see the carnage and stacks of dead bodies, ours and them, that has come from this War for Oil. So find another hobby and I'll worry about my own lifestyle.

I'm busy this morning trying to perfect a new magazine idea I have. It would combine naked pictures of Zell Miller with pictures of US soldiers raping and killing and burning the bodies of 14 year old girls and their families in Bush's new Iraq.

The new magazine will be for Republicans only and should put the lead back in their pencils, if ya know what I mean, Vern.

Oh come on. Of course it is about oil. I'm not a politician so I don't have to play games. You act as if you are above that subject---as if it didn't affect you. Get real. You and me and every other American is affected by what happens in the middle east. If you don't start getting real one day you may have to beg the Chinese for a drop of oil to run your hair dryer. How benevolent do you think they are going to be?

I'm busy this morning trying to perfect a new magazine idea I have. It would combine naked pictures of Zell Miller with pictures of US soldiers raping and killing and burning the bodies of 14 year old girls and their families in Bush's new Iraq.

I tell you what, hotshot. I just got through gazing at some pictures you need to add to your picture book. They are pictures of two 101st Airborne troopers. You might have trouble recognizing them as american soldiers because they are missing their heads. The rest of their bodies have been so mangled that they are hardly recognizeable. You add that to your picture book.

Anyway, this item might help us solve our energy needs and get off our addiction to oil which you so adamantly push:

Coors Brewing Company in Golden, Colorado, has spent $2.3 million to double its program to turn wasted beer into ethanol.

Hey, moron. Ethanol is mixed with gasoline. It does not replace oil. Ethanol stretches your supply some but it falls far short of replacing middle eastern oil.

I never thought I killed for my country. I killed to protect my own ass and to save my buddies. So, when all you yahoos start talking about those political reasons for this war, you don't fool me one bit.

I served a country that supposedly didn't invade other countries to start a war and supposedly abided by the Geneva convention.

I remember my old war movies showing nothing but contempt for Nazis and Japs who refused to abide by the so-called rules of war.

As to pictures of atrocities, if both sides have them, what does that say about this war?

As a former soldier, I've always tried to respect the office of the President. But, let me tell you, President Bush has destroyed a lot of that respect by his ineptitude and foolishness and pride.

What does it say about our country when people say this war is about oil? Is that a noble cause to die for?

I'll still die for my buddies if I must, but I'll be damned if my sons will have to die for your oil so you can keep a certain lifestyle.

Col Travesty

I served as well and you are full of bull if you think that Americans wouldn't go to war to preserve their lifestyle if it depended on oil. We live in a material culture. I don't agree with it but I know it. If the gasoline stations closed and the grocery stores and everything else they would be chomping at the bit to do whatever was necessary to get things going again. I think that you know that. You can't live in this culture and not know it for what it is. Most of the wars that we have fought had an economic component to it that played a strategic role in our getting into a war in the first place.

Frankly, probably the only thing that would cause us to reevaulate our priorities would be something drastic like losing oil.

A Vet, I didn't mean to paint all US soldiers as killers. This kind of thing happens in all wars, all the more reason to avoid war as much as possible. From what I have read, it sure appears to me that the kidnapping and killing of the 2 soldiers you mention was a direct retaliation for the rape and murder of this girl and her family. That makes the entire tragic situation even more tragic.

As Einstein said, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Notice how Israel and the Palestinians have keep this ball in the air for 58 years. I figure every civilian we kill breeds 5 more enemies. Sorry if I stepped on your toes trying to make a point.

"I tell you what, hotshot. I just got through gazing at some pictures you need to add to your picture book. They are pictures of two 101st Airborne troopers. You might have trouble recognizing them as american soldiers because they are missing their heads. The rest of their bodies have been so mangled that they are hardly recognizeable. You add that to your picture book."

If you are trying to make a point that is counter to DBI's, you'll need to try again.

you didn't step on his toes dbi - there are no toes left, as the terrorists cut off our soldiers' toes before they are beheaded

Look, these guys in the middle east are determined to destroy us. If you don't grasp that reality we are doomed. They won't care if you are a liberal, conservative, democrat or republican. You are an american and they have targeted you. They won't ask to see your political credentials before they kill you.

Our enemy is committed. If you aren't your are dead. Guys who have been in combat understand this.

They fear and hate your western culture. In their minds they must destroy it before it destroys their culture. I can understand their fear. However, it will boil down to this one basic element---kill or be killed.

Since you believe in trowing out contrived worst-case scenarios let me give you one that isn't contrived:

Oil is a LIMITED natural resource. It will run low and eventually run out. For you to proclaim it as the predominant need of our future is ludicrous.

Moreover, you seem oddly unaware of how the oil market works. Do your homework. We could lose middle eastern oil and still have gas prices below that of all other countries.

And, do you really think those middle easterners want to cut off their main market of oil addicts?

You're the one who needs to get real and realize that, in the long term, oil is a dead end street.

Foist your illusions and fantasies on your fellow mates at the asylum.

Col Travesty

funny thing is, dbi --

no matter your stance on oil or bush or islam

if they captured you, THEY WOULD SLICE YOUR NECK OPEN THE SAME AS A BUSH VOTER

*that sucks for you, don't travel to the middle east*

And, do you really think those middle easterners want to cut off their main market of oil addicts?

HELLO. Is there anyone out there. Have you ever heard of China and India? Their rising consupmtion is a tremendous market. The Chinese are all over the world making deals to secure oil for future growth. You can't wake up one morning and figure out that you are short of oil and get it the next day.

Col Travesty---you sound like a kid. Just about everything that you touch is an oil derivative product. It is not just what you put in your gasoline tank. Have you got some substitute for it? Do you know of some substitute for it in the forseeable future? Then you better get real, kiddo. You have no idea of the far reaching impact that oil has one yours and everyones life. In your lifetime there will not be a significant substitute for it.

death by inches:

they would kill you too, **********and it ain't because of bush either - google munich olympics 1972, black september 1970, entebbe, twa flight 800, wtc 1993, wtc 2001, uss cole, nairobi, dar es salaam, riyadh boming 95, khobar towers, london 7-7, bali, madrid subway, turkey attacks, indonesian killings, daniel pearl,the iranian hostages 1979, the attack on marines in beirut that killed 240+ in the 80s, the taking of even more hostages in lebanon, entebbe, hijackings from athens airport, the pan american bombkings in lockerbie scotland 1989, egyptian muslim brotherhood, somlaians kiling coptics, hundreds of contractors killed, the south koreans beheadings, the italians beheadings, dutch muslims murdering that journalist, the plot to assasinate the canadian prime minister, war on israel (1947, 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1987, 2000) even as israel gives us land (sinai 1977, 1982; lebanon 2000; gaza 2005), attack on indian parliament killing dozens, sudanese darfur, the sudanese civil war that kills 4 MILLION christians....

These are just a few of the exampes of the "RELIGION OF PEACE" and its history of hate around the world, within a few short years

We are fighting a MEDIEVAL mindset, and until you "get that", i pity your whining about "war for oil"

THEY WILL KILL YOU TOO, REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU VOTE

Want me to go on with the list?

this is serious, life and death, good and evil, and while you sip your latte in a warm house you think about daniel pearl..............................

We could reduce our dependence on foreign oil...if we had the same foresight Brazil did 25 years ago...and if you actually read the article, flex fuel is only 15% gas. Could you imagine cutting our oil imports by 85%? I don't know about you, but I'd rather put dollars in the hands of American Farmers.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/04/60minutes/main1588659.shtml

how many cars does brazil have? a huge proportion of brazil is dirt poor (see the trash farmers in rio) or jungle amazon

yup, they'd slice open DBI's neck - the travesty of that there is absolutely no reason anybodies neck should be sliced open but Bush's and neocon calvary. They lied to get us in to this mess, they've profited greatly from it and too much blood to be imagined has been spilled because of a cowboy who has virtually destroyed our international postion and credibility.
And with a certianty, more Democratic throats are being cut than Republican, because Thugs don't serve (see Bush Administration) they just send other to their wars.

why do you dems at once say bush is so stupid but also he's so smart he "tricked' all those geniuses like kerry and hillary into voting for the war?

is he dumb or smart? PICK ONE!

I tell you what, hotshot...

Our enemy is committed...

They won't care if you are a liberal, conservative, democrat or republican...

blah, blah, blah...

Good night...I respect anyone who has served, and anyone who wants to serve, but gimme a break.

Just because you have sniffed combat doesn't make you an expert on "bipartisan terrorist selection tactics," much less middle east foreign policy.

If you still support this administration's misguided war policy, you need to get off your kool aid and look at the big picture: the next administration is going to have to finish up this crap in Iraq, Osama is still in the recording business, your gas is over three bucks a gallon for regular (speaking of bucks, what does a buck buy you?)...

But let's keep our eye on the ball here...don't let them gays foster them kids much less be married, send them messicans back whar they belong, let's just nuke them ragheads...shoot, let's nuke them slants in North Korea...and let's hang the first lib that wants ta burn Old Glory...gimme a break...

I'm pickin' that anon is strange/hunk/getR all rolled into one and he's dumb, just like Bush.

You people who can't sleep at night because you think some towelhead 6000 miles away is going to jump, like a flea, into your bedroom and kill your family, need to read John Dean's new book, "Conservatives Without Conscience". It comes out this Friday.

In the book he uses scientific evidence which shows that "social conservatives and neoconservatives are, on the whole, demonstrably authoritarian, bigoted, irrational and amoral."

The key word is authoritarian. And it further proves what I have always thought, much like gay people, rightwing conservatives are BORN not MADE. You people come down the birth canal WIRED up to either be Dick Cheney or be the blind followers of Dick Cheney. The exact phenomenon that produced Nazi Germany.

Dean uses extensive research documents to back up his argument. It shows why you all lay in bed at night and see monsters all over while I lay in bed at night and dream of Pia Zadora.

The same thing would explain why rightwing nuts stand outside of abortion clinics all day in the sun while no liberal pickets orphanages. It will show how rightwing nuts become willing to break all the laws, willingly kill or be killed because all the way to their bone marrow they believe their cause is right and all other ideas are of the devil.

I'm not kidding, read this book....it explains it all and shows that if something isn't done, the right-wingers will bring on the next holocaust as they do anything to win.....because their poorly wired brains tell them all is lost if they don't win and Osama will be personally blowing up people in Conway soon.

does the book show why liberals protest EVERYTHING but conservatives don't picket because they have JOBS to go to?

Idiot - he lied. No one I know has every put the words smart and Bush in the same sentence. He lied. You can't deal with that.
You prefer to sit in you little cubbie, hunkered and sweating because of the FEAR that some little brown man is coming to get you.
Instead of invading a county, we should of taken the 1 trillion dollars and tracked down every single one of these guys who you obviously lose sleep over. Where's Osama?
Fear is what the neocons count on - you Son are a perfect example. You don't think that you are a joke in the White House amongst the neocon Calvary and the Rovers? You've played and cowered right into their hands. History repeated (see Germany) as fear was the defining ruling factor and 6 million lives were lost because a country led by a goverment spread fear and hate.
And before you start your kindergarten antics - I'm not comparing Germany to the US. I'm talking about FEAR and how it can be used as a tool to justifiy a means.

Anon 10:59,

You should avoid generalizations. I am a liberal, I have a fulltime job plus I volunteer AND I attend protests, such as the immigration protest at the state capitol.

I love how anon responded to my post in one minute....no way could he have actually READ the article in that amount of time!

Yep, we have a bigger population than Brazil - they only have 188M, and I'm sure we have more car drivers. However, they only have 6.93% arable land, and we have 18.01% (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html).

So maybe we can't reduce our oil dependance as much as they did, but at this point, ANYTHING would help. And as you so aptly noted, the rising economies of China and India will only make competition for oil more intense.

It's been while since college, but Economy 101 tells me than when demand goes up, and supply stays neutral, prices go up, up, up!

Don't believe in flex fuel? Fine, don't come whining to me when gas is $7/gallon.

gimme a break

The enemy that you will face in your lifetime won't give you a break---you are an American. You had better get ready for that. You certainly are not today.

Gas will never get to $7 a gallon in today's dollars.

Gas was more expenseive in the 1910s, 20s, 30,s late 70, and early 80s than it is today.

'HUH" you ask? Answer is INLFLATION - why cars only cost $1000 back then!

Explain the $1.00 increase over the last six months and the record oil company profits. That's record, as never before seen. Get out your marbles and start counting what these record profits have cost the American public in the last year? It's pure and simple "war profiteering", by the Bush buddies. In your world, the truth is a dangerous and denied quantity.

its called oil is at $70 a barrel.

who sets that price?

oh yeah, OPEC.

check your facts before you throw out accusations, moron

Record Profits - despite the $70.00 a barrel. What part of Record and Profits don't you get?

You economic flunkies need to realize that the cost of oil is set by supply and demand. Some additional supply will come online around 2010 and should impact prices assuming some geopolitical situation doesn't develop.

You need to also realize that supply of oil is not the only factor affecting price. Refining capacity is also a factor. I suppose the LRSD doesn't have any economics courses offered anymore. I learned this stuff back in the early 60s.

Record Profits - despite the $70.00 a barrel. What part of Record and Profits don't you get?

If you want to talk about profit margins, look into the cereral industry. They enjoy a significantly greater profit margin than the oil companies. I guess there is not political mileage out of cereal.

Were any of you guys around in 1973 or 1979? Oil was a very interesting topic then.

SUPPLY AND DEMAND

If used to they buy it at 50 and sell it at 55/barrell (10% margin),

and now they buy it at 70 and sell it at 77/barrel (still 10% margin - the way business is done in capitalism).....

da da dum... NOW they have "RECORD PROFITS!!" (7 vs 5)

the percent is the same, what changes is the number, which is irrelevant due to inflation

****REAL WORLD EXMAMPLE: go to http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm and look at the all time grossing movies for #74 and #75 - is "madagascar" that much bigger of a movie than 'toy story'?? they earned the same, but toy story made pixar a household name, toy story spawned 2 sequels, toy story spawned cartoons, books, marketing out the wazoo that madagascar could only hope for... so what gives?

ohyeah, toy story earned the same in "1995 dollars" vs 2005

THAT IS CALLED MATh.. DONT post until you get a GED level education in MATH bozo!

Ya know, in Southeast Arkansas, you'd be called dumber than dirt Son.
What's the profit margin on cereral have to do with oil profits and war profiteering?
You lose an argument and you throw corn flakes at me as a diversion? Pathetic.

One of the most common misconceptions about OPEC is that the Organization is responsible for setting crude oil prices. Although OPEC did in fact set crude oil prices from the early 1970s to the mid-1980s, this is no longer the case. It is true that OPEC's Member Countries do voluntary restrain their crude oil production in order to stabilize the oil market and avoid harmful and unnecessary price fluctuations, but this is not the same thing as setting prices.

In today's complex global markets, the price of crude oil is set by movements on the three major international petroleum exchanges, all of which have their own Web sites featuring information about oil prices. They are the New York Mercantile Exchange, the International Petroleum Exchange in London and the Singapore International Monetary Exchange.

Ok, hotshot. You chastize the oil barons for making such huge profits. What about the profits that one makes on cereral. Shouldn't we pass a gillion bills in congress regulating their profits? Shouldn't we at least accuse them of collusion? Were is your comparable indignation over them?

Easy answer anon 12:28,

then he couldn't have something to blame on bush!

:) :) :)

Oil facts---thank you for your singularly intelligent input to what is otherwise drivel. You are right on the money.

You know which part of your body you can blow your Wheaties out of, don't you? If Bush-Cheney were from Kellogg, cereal would cost 20 bucks a box.

But it is so nice of you to defend the oil industry, all friends of Bush-Cheney, when they make record profits never before recorded in the history of mankind. When are you going to hold your Bill Gates telethon?

Hey DBI -
Do you drive a car?

Just wondering

pathetic---With the exception of 'oil facts' the rest of you haven't a 1st grade level understanding of economics. The LRSD should hang its head in shame. You are just amateur political hacks who only have a vocabulary of one word---bush.

UGH! I can't take you all's drivel

************IF YOU BELIEVE IN ANY OF THE FOLLOWING 4 STATEMENTS:

1-Bush caused 9/11
2-Bush causes Hurricanes
3-Bush keeps gas prices high
4-Bush has Osama captured and will "present" him at an opportune moment

IF YOU BELIVE IN ANY OF THOSE 4 THINGS, PLEASE ,DEMS, PLEASE PLEASE, TALK ABOUT THEM TO YOUR FRIENDS! SPREAD THE MESSAGE TO YOUR COWORKERS! CALL INTO RADIO SHOWS!

THE MORE NUTJOBS LIKE YOU THERE ARE OUT THERE THROWING OUT YOUR SHEEHAN LIKE LUNACY, THE MORE SEATS THE GOP PICKS UP IN NOVEMBER!

FOR MY SAKE, KEEP TALKING DEMS, AND SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS, "BUSH DID _______, __________, AND ________"

LOL LOL LOL

GetReal,

I am a liberal but i don't believe any of those four things. Am i a nutjob? or just a regular liberal?

just a regular lib - though its scary how many of your voting buddies buy into those thoughts

lol

GetReal, loved your comments. I think some lefties got your point but, fortunately for us, most of them are clueless. They are the ones who will support Mrs. Clinton.

1. Bush watched 911 happen when he didn't read the PD briefing and was reading "My Pet Goat".

2. Bush watch Katrina hit and let a city down in it's own seweage as his team decided on what to wear. Help arriving 4 days after the important things (hair and wear) were accomplished.

3. Record Profits

4. Bush couldn't find his ass from a hole in the ground.

I don't believe any of the four things in the way which you presented them. I do believe that the total lack of compentence and credibility of your boy speaks for itself.

See GetReal, I told you there were still some nuts out there on the left.

Anon: a response:
1. Clinton could have gotten Osama after the embassy bombings of 1998 in kenya and tanzania, but didn't (too afraid of american death toll in the media.. hmm)

2. Ray "chocolate city" Nagin, mayor of Nola, kept hundreds of city buses UNDERWATER and twiddled his thumbs while deciding not to send the buses out, instaed he saved his own skin. (and without sounding callous, what part of "Mandatory Evacuation" is so hard to understand?)

3. See above discussion on inflation and margin (higher prices mean higher DOLLAR profits but not higher percentage profits)

4. Apparently he does, or else his colon would explode.

Cowards like this guy deserve only one treament...silence.

He's sitting in a cubicle or in his bedroom somewhere hitting "refresh" every minute or so, so he can see what kind of response his latest post provokes. He's a pathetic coward and wannabee, who thinks he's found his 15 minutes of fame right here. Every post directed at educating, correcting or rebutting what he's said is time and productivity and life that has been sucked out of us for his personal gratification. This is a small man who needs to be shut out.
Next time you recognize this poor creature on this blog - do not answer - do not acknowledge. He'll go away and try to find another venue to justifiy his pitiful existance.

And what are you doing, BlueTicker, grilling burgers outside while curing cancer?

Give me a break. Your entire post was wrong

(and.. AGAIN -- they don't attack my politics, or my issues, or my positions, they attack ME)

just like real-life libs, no foolin' lol!

Young man, I believe that your politics, issues and positions have been attacked and rebutted quite handidly. But like a true Republican, you take substantive critisim as a personal attack. Not the same thing. When you grow up, I hope you'll understand that.

~He's a pathetic coward and wannabee
~He's sitting in a cubicle or in his bedroom somewhere hitting "refresh" every minute or so
~ this poor creature
~This is a small man who needs to be shut out.

Yep, REAL substantive.

Keep 'em coming, nowhere on this blog do you attack policy, just the person... but oh well, thats the dem way!! (why can't you guys win any elections again??? What??? you mean people DONT vote for the 'whiniest' candidate??? you mean negativity and scolding AREN'T CHARISMATIC????")

Keep em coming - or better yet, like yesterday, why not post "fake vile things" under my name?

LOL!

"As Einstein said, every action has an equal and opposite reaction."

DBI, just so you know next time, that's Isaac Newton's 3rd Law of Motion. Einstein undoubtedly said it, but Newton is generally given credit for the idea.

LOL!
YOu poeple are pathetic, all you can do is attack people. Let's debate the issues, like why gay marriage ruined Tim Hutchinson's marriage.

HAH! see ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is NOT ME@!!

But i LOVE the imitation - it's the sincerest form of flattery

ARK. BLOG 28 of your comments on the thread and counting. tiresome, particularly when they are as unenlightening as this.

There is a term in the oil market called world peak production. That is the point when production will reach its maximum and all serious forecasters predict a continuous decline after that time.
One estimate is that 2010 is the peak year. Some predict the decline will be gradual but significant and later years see it drop much faster.
There are still tremendous reserves of untapped resources in oil shale. The Colorado/Utah one is the biggest and it is in the U.S. Unfortunately, it is beyond any current technology to be price feasible and current technology can remove it at a very prohibitive cost and with the release of a significant amount of hazardous pollutants.
You are right about the use of oil in our everyday lives. Second only to electricity, it is a key element in our society. You might say that modern society as we know it is built upon it.
And, yes, it is limited. The dead end street mentioned earlier is a good analogy. No one disagrees with that. What they disagree with is the length of the street and how long it is before we reach its end. Will the detours needed be able to support the mega-system which this society operates under?
The real question is not what you are going to do with oil know but what are you going to do without it in the future.

'GetReal-i'll go back to being "anon" '

Good riddance you piece of sh!+! Go fluff youself and jump off a cliff. You'd make a great attraction at the new State Park @ Mt. Magazine.

LOL (Now that's a funny thought!)

Please amend my last sentence to read:

The real question is not what you are going to do with oil now but what are you going to do without it in the future.

Sorry about that good readers.

Fine guys - I'm outta here (for real) -- but i can't stop that little weevil (i think it was dbi) -- from posting under 'getreal' -- he or someone like him has been doing it on other posts -- but as for the real 'getreal', i'm gone

For real.

(i STILL think you guys are looney nutjobs, and WAAAAAAAY out of touch with reality, and will still lose in november, and i STILL think you are hypocrites that are too negative, too ELITIST, and too hostile to God, but, whatever, let environmentalism be your Religion and let your repeated November losses be your ammunition.

I bid you Adieu!

(for real -- if there is one more post on here as getreal after 2:46 or whenever this one goes through, it AIN'T ME.)

And for my final act of glory: 'LOL'

Adios

You trotted out this tired statement:

"2. Ray "chocolate city" Nagin, mayor of Nola, kept hundreds of city buses UNDERWATER and twiddled his thumbs while deciding not to send the buses out, instaed he saved his own skin."

I really appreciate it, because it gives me a chance to point out the problems with privatization.

Those buses were privately owned and contracted by the schools to transport the children. The OWNERS of those buses EVACUATED so they could not be contacted to use them. THAT IS WHY they sat there.

If they had been owned and operated by the state or city, they could have been called out with no problem. BECAUSE they were privatized, they could not touch them.

i meant 1:46pm, or make that 1:50pm now - no more after this (honest) - if there is, it's not me

Leaders don't use excuses they get things done. Nagin is in no way, shape, form or fashion a leader.

"Death by Inches" is obviously a Republican plant on this blog, and this blog is symptomatic of the reason why Democrats can't win national elections, unless, like Bill Clinton, they're skilled in talking like Republicans during the campaign. I long for another Harry Truman, but since that's not possible, where is there another Bill Clinton? Until we find one we'll never win the elections we must win to execute sensible administration. And Hillary is a Rodham, not a Clinton.

Well, you are going to get Hillary whether you like it or not. She is definitely no bill clinton but don't tell her that. Dick Morris tried to several years back and she went ballistic.

Oil Facts you have been a refreshing breath of fresh air on this blog. Nice doing business with you. Join us again.

If they had been owned and operated by the state or city, they could have been called out with no problem. BECAUSE they were privatized, they could not touch them.

If Nagin had personal possession of the keys to each one of those buses they would still be sitting their underwater. He is strickly window dressing.

If Nagin had personal possession of the keys to each one of those buses they would still be sitting there underwater. He is strickly window dressing.

OK, so I lied. I couln't help but post once more. No really, this is really the last one. Ray "Chocolate City" Nagin was/is an idiot. Perhaps it was God's way of addressing the homosexual nature of the city.

That's it, I'm outy for good!
LOL

stop it you jerk - ^^^^^ THIS ISN'T ME AND WONT EVER BE

If I ever decide to pretend to be GetReal, I will continue to use a good spell checker in my fake posts. And I can't get to the bank with all the checks I get in the mail for being a Republican plant. Boy, didn't see that one coming. That also makes me giggle.

I'm sick of you liberal wimps always complaining about this and then about that. Deathguy, you are the wimpiest of them all. I'd like to take you for a little time in combat and show you how real men operate. You need to be purified of the wimpdom that your wife has put you in.

These liberals are just goin to make you such a pansy that when the real action starts you are goin to be in a world of hurt, boy.

Thanks for the backup there, it's nice to know I've got a few friends on this board. However, in the future I can defend myself.

Zig-Zag Zell is a wacko that belongs in the party he has whored himself out to. Him and Strom are two southern peas in a pod. Dixiecrats first and foremost, Republicans of opportunity second and Americans dead last.

The object nony is to use your head and never get into a war, especially one you can't win. Real men use their heads first and then when all else fails they throw a fist or fire their gun.

Ain't nothing manly or intelligent about starting a war. The dumbest prisoner in the cell block is the one that's in the most trouble all the time. I got me a Ford truck with a 5 mph bumper that will even up the score against the biggest and the baddest. Big deal.

Now I see the House is going to take on Internet gambling. Oh lord god, betting online is why are children isn't learning. betting online is why we have a 50% divorce rate and gays wanting to get married. Gambling online is why 50 innocent Iraqi civilians died today.

Has there ever been a time when we've had a worse Congress, a worse Supreme Court and a worse batch of criminals in the White House? And I haven't mentioned what bad Democrats Pryor and Lincoln are in a while. Well...they still are. Zell still loves them and so does King George.

Ain't nothing wimpier than a Democrat who votes with Bush 65% of the time. Go Ned Lamont!!!

HILARIOUS

I am the real getreal and any more posts with the name are just not me

HEY DBI -

Can we fix any problems in the country (gambling, taxes, lobbying, drugs, kiddie porn, etc) before Iraq?

seems like everything that bush/congress propose you think iraq is more important? is that right? that takes precedence??

^^^^^^^^^^^^LOL!

You guys are so crazy! I'm the real getreal around here. Anybody else posting and says so is not really real. Get that!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^THAT isn't me stop it stop it stop it stop it

Will the real GR stand up??

THAT'S ME NOT YOU!@

#%^

This entire thread is a perfect example of how bloggers are idiots who should be ignored.

I just want to extend a hand of peace to my liberal brothers. Sure I'm a conservative but ,hey, I get along with all kinds. Wimps don't bother me as long as the keep a respectful distance. DBI, my man, where are your words of whatever? You are my hero of wimps and I want to hear your threads of wisdom. Comeon let me hear some 'bushism' from those liberal choppers of yours. Tell me what a rat he is. Let me hear those comments about his stupidity. I need to hear them. Feed them to me. Feed them to me.

Zelda, baby, long time no hear. Comeon, sweetheart, let's waltz down those memory lanes of liberal rhetoric. I gots to hear it. I gots to hear it. Tell me about how you broads are going to solve all of the problems of the world because you have the secret ingredient---estrogen. Let me hear about the female plan of righting the wrongs, going where no man has gone before. I'm ready to turn everything over to you broads because we guys are so tired of the white man's burden. We need to know that you'll be there to shaft us. Oh, I mean take care of us. Give me those words of wisdom that flow trippingly over your pretty upturn lips. I can see them pursed now and I wait with hightened anticipation of female expectation.

Hey--

Anonymous | 07:20 PM

WHAT!!!! are you trying to compensate for...Peewee.
Anonymous=Big man online HAHAHAHA.

In Dante's Inferno, the three-headed Satan, encased in ice at the very heart of Hell, devours history's three greatest traitors-- Cassius, Brutus, and Judas-- for eternity in his three mouths. I think we should give Judas a pardon and stick Zell Miller's bony ass in one of them. I hate that turncoat bastard, and look forward to reading his obituary.

Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win you are still retarded.

Yo, "original"...

As you have never had the privilege of competing in Special Olympics let me enlighten your ignorant ass a bit...

...acting with class is inherent here.

And this is a perfect example of what would happen when gay marriage is around.
All you slim shady wannabes quit impersonating me, I'll kick all your assez.
This is really me, the real GR, word to your mudder and all that. So step off before I bust a ...
I hope you get the idea, don't be a fool now you hear.
Yes, it is the real, no really, real GR.
Word DOG!!

Allahu Akbar means: "Our god, Allah, is the greatest God of all." It does not mean "God is great." But the main stream media will never tell you that. You'll have to hear it from Zell Miller.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^NO, this is NOT the "real GR"

Who cares anyway

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^NO, the jerk above is NOT the "real GR" - I am

Oh well...

Who cares anyway

I think we've worn out the Zell Miller thread. The verdict is in and the vote says Zell Miller will do Asa as much good as a cancerous bladder tumor.

With the paid line up coming down the pike to speak in favor of Asa, then Santorum, then the next freaky geek in the Republican line up, the assembly line fashion removes any strength good men might have. I mean, if really decent people had lined up touring for Republicans like a 3rd rate rock band, it would have still been weak. But the rejects who have so far stumped for Asa and Santorum, make it a doubly meaningless exercise.

Normal people see it. But of course the neo-con right-wingers see nothing but what Bush-Cheney-Rove put before their eyes. Like they thought our troops were going to be greeted in Baghdad with flowers, they already see their side winning in November and sitting on the right hand of God or Bush or the Billikens they've made up in their own minds.

It's not that I see the Democrats doing much right, but every cell in my body sees the Bush Republicans tearing this country apart and wreaking havoc with the rest of the world. Being the bad guy doesn't suit America very well. Zell's is not the face we want to show the rest of the world and at the present time all Americans look like Zell to them.

It's a terrible time to be an American. Let's change that in November and in 2007 bring the Bush rein of terror to an end.

Asa will most assuredly benefit from bringing Zell to Arkansas. If Zell Miller gives a firey speech and has a couple of good sound bites, that will saturate the TV news for at least a day or so and then it will still be good to use for ads as well. It will get great coverage in the blogs, as you can see by the overwhelming number of coments here, and will also be discussed on talk radio. Oh, did I mention it will raise money for Asa? Zell Miller is a lot like most Arkansans. He shares a lot of their values. The guy is perfect to bring along on the campaign trail. It has always helped candidates to get support from the other side of the aisle. If you don't believe me, take a look at what's happening out in California with Schwarzenegger. He's running away with that race in part because he's getting support from groups that don't normally support Republicans like gays, Latinos, etc. If Zell, as a "Democrat" can bring across some of those blue dog, or yellow dog (whichever you prefer) democrats, then he should produce a similar effect for Asa Hutchinson

It's gay marriage, how many times do I have to say it!

GetReal | 08:37 AM

LIAR, How many time do we have to hear it? LI·AR"

Mr. Ray, what are you smoking? Arnold has finally broken the 40% approval rating mark on his way to that magic 51% that all Republicans love? And talk about someone that registers a zero in Arkansas....even kooky old Zell is more popular here than the Terminator.

If I could, I'd punish you by making you spend next weekend in a pup tent with old Zell. If he was a ride at Disneyland, he'd be a rollercoaster that only went down....down, exactly what he'll do with Asa's numbers after he speaks for him on his way to stump for Santorum. Sh*t in one hand and have Zell Miller speak into the other and see which one fills up first....sheesh.

I like Miller, he is a moral and decent guy in our party.

As far as our party in Arkansas goes, I wanted to make a couple comments about our future leaders. Some commented that Young Democrat Jill Rogers would be a Governor someday. I think that would not happen. She has never paid a bill, lived on her own, or had a full time job in her life. She claims to care for the people of Arkansas, but she only promotes herself and is superfical in who she attempts to get to know - only people whom would benefit her in the future. She is dismissive and rude to those who she views does not benfit her. It is not as if whe works in a soup kitchen (unless she could get her picture taken in a "see and be seen" magazine") She cares for her superfical political carrer. She is also perverted and lewd.

I like Miller, he is a moral and decent guy in our party.

As far as our party in Arkansas goes, I wanted to make a couple comments about our future leaders. Some commented that Young Democrat Jill Rogers would be a Governor someday. I think that would not happen. She has never paid a bill, lived on her own, or had a full time job in her life. She claims to care for the people of Arkansas, but she only promotes herself and is superfical in who she attempts to get to know - only people whom would benefit her in the future. She is dismissive and rude to those who she views does not benfit her. It is not as if whe works in a soup kitchen (unless she could get her picture taken in a "see and be seen" magazine") She cares for her superfical political carrer.