Pryor's DSCC role under fire
Bob Geiger at Huffington Post wonders how U.S. Sen. Mark Pryor squares his role as a vice-chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee with his support for Joe Lieberman's independent Senate candidacy.
Geiger thinks Pryor should be removed from the DSCC leadership as a result, and he doesn't ignore U.S. Sen. Blanche Lincoln's position, either.
In the short list of three Democratic Senators who have chosen to ignore Ned Lamont as the legitimate Democratic candidate for Senate in Connecticut, in favor of supporting non-Democrat Joe Lieberman, is Senator Mark Pryor of Arkansas.
Not a good thing on its own but when I was on the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) web site yesterday to refresh my memory on who is leading the Democratic effort to take back the Senate, I found that one of the DSCC Vice-Chairmen is none other than... Senator Mark Pryor.
Doesn't that strike you as just a little odd and inappropriate?
Here's the very first sentence of the DSCC's formal mission statement: "Our mission is to elect more Democrats to the United States Senate."
And yet here we have Pryor, one of the alleged leaders in that effort, working to see that Joe Lieberman's gut-punch to the Democratic party is sustained and that he goes on to defeat Ned Lamont, Connecticut's Democratic nominee for Senate.
"Your support helps fund efforts to mobilize voters and ensure that the playing field is level between our candidates and well-funded Republican candidates," the DSCC mission statement continues.
Here's an idea: How about removing anyone from the DSCC leadership that does not oh, I don't know, support all Democrats running for the Senate?
The only other Democrat on the DSCC leadership team who, while not pledging to support Joe Lieberman, has not committed to Lamont either, is Pryor's Arkansas colleague, Blanche Lincoln.
Pryor needs to either support Lamont and get off the Lieberman bandwagon or get off the committee whose sole mission is to support Democratic candidates -- and Lincoln needs to commit to Ned Lamont or remove herself as the Women's Senate Network Chair. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) or Hillary Clinton (D-NY) may be better suited to Lincoln's role if this is such a difficult decision for her.
Supporting Lamont would hardly be a huge act of courage on the part of Pryor and Lincoln as Arkansas is a state that has voted for Democrats in 20 of the 27 presidential elections since 1900 and currently has Democrats as five of six members of its Congressional delegation -- hardly the reddest of the red states.
But it's not about the political expediency of it anyway. If you are a leader in an organization whose sole purpose is to elect Democrats, you should not be backing those running against Democrats. Period.



Comments
Hallelujah! Glad the national level is seeing Pryor's back-stabbing of the Democratic Party. I hope they strip him of that DSCC position. It's only right.
Posted by: Spirit | August 15, 2006 01:58 PM
My initial gut feel is that Pryor will resign his position, allowing him to look noble while simultaneously once again helping the administration achieve its goals.
Posted by: Roland | August 15, 2006 02:01 PM
Maybe the tide is really turning. These are the kind of complaints that you see in a party that is actually forming around a position.
Good news for November?
It might actually be. Thank God.
If so, Hillary is on the wrong side. How will Bill get her in the other camp?
Posted by: Where there's smoke | August 15, 2006 02:04 PM
All politics are local. The national folks don't understand what it means to be an arkansas democrat. If we allowed them to run our Democratic campaigns, we would in fact be a red-red state.
Posted by: Tax Payer | August 15, 2006 02:04 PM
Mr. Geiger nailed it on this one. Mark Pryor needs to decide whether or not he wants to continue to be a member of the Democratic Party or to be an official Independent. Your move, Mark.
Posted by: Pavel | August 15, 2006 02:06 PM
OK, Tax Payer. Explain to us why Pryor had to come out in support of Lieberman's independent candidacy to reamin a viable candidate in Arkansas.
Posted by: Pavel | August 15, 2006 02:10 PM
Remarking that Arkansas isnīt a red state because it has voted for the Democrat in 20 of the last 27 elctions for President is clearly the comment of someone ignorant of history. The State of Texas is probably up there too. What matters is the elections since about 1968.
The DSCC is about electing Democrats - kinda like we did in Arkansas when we knocked of an incumbent Republican by puttin him up against Mark Pryor. There has to be a little pragmatism in politics.
Posted by: paleez | August 15, 2006 02:27 PM
Yes, Tax Payer...please elaborate.
If all politics are local, as you say, and the national "folks" (whoever they are) don't understand what it means to be an "arkansas democrat"...and would, as you put it, turn us into a "red red state" by running our campaigns...you are suggesting that most "arkansas democrats" support Pryor's position?
Posted by: rosso | August 15, 2006 02:30 PM
Pryor voted 65% with Bush and the Repubs. How many of you support 65% of the crap foisted on us by Bushco?
Bush's approval rating in Arkansas is in the 35% range.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 15, 2006 02:33 PM
How is Blanche Lincoln sitting quietly on the sidelines supposed to make her ineligable to be a member of the womanīs Senate network. If this jackass knew what he was talking about he would know that Blanche Lincoln has spent a lot of time, money, and effort trying to overturn the Republican Senate seat in Missouri. Do you think Hillary or Boxer could do much good in Jefforson City or Springfield. In fact the DSCC needs more people like Lincoln and Pryor because they have appeal in swing states and districts. Believe it or not, people think Barbara Boxer is way to the left of Hillcrest. With Hillary running for President maybe we should stick with good old Blanche on the front lines of the Democratic take back of the US Senate.
Posted by: Stay Home Bob Geiger, Go Home Warwick | August 15, 2006 02:33 PM
Pryor also voted with the Democratic leadership 87% of the time - read the book "lying with statistics"? or did you write it?
Posted by: Anonymous | August 15, 2006 02:36 PM
Actually Pryor has voted with the GOP an astounding 73.1% of the time...and Blanche isn't far behind...
Posted by: rosso | August 15, 2006 02:38 PM
We love you liberals eating your own. Red Ned Lamont is for abortion, homo marriage, universal health care, racial quotas, and against the war on terror. Red Ned comes from a commie family and while he doesn't embrace his his grandfather's and uncle's open declarations as commies, he shares their views. Additionally, race hustlers like Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson stand by Red Ned's side when he declared victory. This blog is so far left it thinks it's right.
Posted by: Red Ned | August 15, 2006 02:46 PM
In fact the DSCC needs more people like Lincoln and Pryor because they have appeal in swing states and districts.
Posted by: Stay Home Bob Geiger, Go Home Warwick
I think most contributors to DSCC are strong, motivated Democrats.
I think as word of Pryor's devilish, treasonous treachery spreads, it will hurt DSCC fund raising.
DSCC won't appreciate that one bit.
Posted by: Spirit | August 15, 2006 02:47 PM
Oh goodness! I am right in the middle of my afternoon granola and milk snack when the Commie trolls start to attack...
Now I have to go get a sponge and a paper towel to clean up my mess...
Please, stop it...you're killing me!!!
Posted by: rosso | August 15, 2006 02:49 PM
If Mark Pryor runs for reelection two years from now as a Democrat, we have to assume he will expect the support of the DSCC and all his fellow senators --- including the supporrt of Ned Lamont, should he be elected this year. His lack of support for another Democrat won't be forgotten.
Posted by: Pavel | August 15, 2006 02:54 PM
Pryor voted the right way on Net Neutrality, and for that I thank him. HOWEVER both he and Lincoln have been on the wrong side of too many issues. Perhaps it's time THEY became independents?
I understand they're walking a tightrope here in this state, but they can't have it both ways.
Posted by: Clay | August 15, 2006 02:54 PM
I'm sure "Taxpayer" can speak for himself, but I think I understand what he's saying. And if so, I agree with it.
Arkansas has been a red state in the past two presidential elections because the Democratic Party has nominated a candidate too far to the left. Nominate another lefty from New England and it will happen again.
However, Arkansas elects primarily Democratic congressmen and senators because they are "Arkansas Democrats" or whatever you want to call them -- they are more conservative than the core of the national Democratic Party.
This state has always been more conservative than the national Democrats. And I guarantee you, if the national party were formulating the platform of any of our congressional delegation, they would get beat.
I see this as a good thing. The voters in this state have a bit of sense. They don't buy the left wing crap in the Democratic Party or the right wing Nazism of the Republican Party. They elect "Arkansas Democrats" to send to Washington and (for the most part) as governor, lt. guv, AG, the legislature, etc.
Posted by: Barbara Ann | August 15, 2006 03:34 PM
"The voters in this state have a bit of sense."
I see. These "sensible" voters have been putting people in office and laws on the books and look at us now...we are really cookin'!
Oh wait...we're still ranked 48 and a half...
Posted by: rosso | August 15, 2006 03:39 PM
I don't like Lieberman, but this whole thing has gotten wAAAAAAy out of hand.
WHY IN THE HELL WOULD YOU ASK PRYOR TO RESIGN HIS DSCC POSITION?
What he does in that position is raise money to try to get Democrats elected. And because he is supporting an Independent in one race, who will vote for a Democrat to be Senate majority leader, some liberals think he should try to stop helping other Democrats get elected.
If your hatred of one misguided Democrat (who probably doesn't deserve to be elected) is guiding you to attack Democrats instead of Republicans during one of the most important election cycles ever, you really need to reasses your priorities.
Posted by: Common Sense | August 15, 2006 03:44 PM
Yeah, Barbara Ann and Tax Payer, I'm looking forward to hearing our boy Mark brag two years from now about how he supported Joe Lieberman, so Arkansas voters should vote for Pryor. Ain't gonna happen. The point is that Mark could have kept his mouth shut without jeopardizing his status as a conservative Democrat, but that's not what he did. His stand will not help him here in Arkansas, but it could well come back to bite him in the butt when Democrats like Wes Clark or Rodney Slater or Bill Halter decide to challenge him.
Posted by: Pavel | August 15, 2006 03:50 PM
And what? Do you think electing the likes of A$A or some other stormtrooper is going to change that? I guess we could bring back creation science... oh wait, we are.
And before you get your swaztika in a wad, I would feel the same way about electing a left wing Democrat governor. Say what you want about Beebe, but he's no left winger.
Posted by: Barbara Ann | August 15, 2006 03:54 PM
Pavel, I don't disagree with you. Pryor took the loyalty oath. He should have kept his mouth shut.
Posted by: Barbara Ann | August 15, 2006 04:05 PM
Man oh man did Gieger nail Mark Pryor! And what great honor it brings the trampled old state of Arkansas. Our two Democrat Senators looking about as Democratic as Zell Miller. We should all be so proud.
Gieger is dead right. Pryor has no business being near the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, much less VP. Kick his ass off as soon as possible please. And Pryor's fellow Democrats in the Senate might think about removing him from some committee assignments too. There is a price to pay for disloyalty. And it's time for Pryor to show exactly who he is loyal to, the Democratic Party or Zell LIEberman.
Those of you saying this Yankee guy Gieger can't run Arkansas politics....what a load of crap. He's merely pointing out what all of us should have been bright enough to see last week. Think of what would happen if a VP of Wal-Mart was caught buying crap at K-mart. Gieger is on the money here.
Now would be a good time for Lincoln and Pryor to announce they're both switching parties and going Bush Republican all the way. At least the people of Arkansas would know which party their Senators belong to.
It's time the Blue State of Arkansas figured out our Senators are Red.
Posted by: Deathbyinches | August 15, 2006 04:16 PM
Who is Mark Pryor backing in the Arkansas governor's race?
Democrat?
Republican?
Independent?
Posted by: Anonymous | August 15, 2006 05:07 PM
This is so typical of democrats to eat their own. No wonder they can't win back the congress or the white house.
Posted by: fellow Arkansan | August 15, 2006 05:09 PM
The DSCC is about protecting DEM incumbents with a whole lot of money. Not following the will of voters who decide to change the Dem occupant of their senate seat. Pryor is no longer doing either of these things. It is wrong and once again shows his true red nature. Joe lost the election and quit the party, he should no longer be allowed in the clubhouse or other privileges. Senator Pryor is just wrong....again
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR | August 15, 2006 05:14 PM
To the Red Army - imagine that Santorum got beaten by another Red Soldier because he supported all things Clinton. Then Santorum turns around crybaby, can't take the will of the people, runs as an independent and thumbs his nose at the Republican leadership and the Republican the people of Pennsylvania?
You'd turn on him like rabid skunks. Don't say you wouldn't, you would. You'd call for his head, because above all Party Loyality and circle the wagons is what you'all are about.
No difference here. Pryor has an obligation as a elected Democrat to bow to the wishes of the voters in CT, just like every other elected Democrat. And who the hell does Pryor think he is, supporting a man that the people who are charged to choose, did not choose.
Regardless of how much he respects and like Leaverman, Pryor needs to keep his nose in the tent.
Posted by: BlueTicker | August 15, 2006 05:24 PM
fellow Arkansan said-
This is so typical of democrats to eat their own. No wonder they can't win back the congress or the white house.
Excuse me, this is called accountability and defining a failed vote. We Dems screwed up electing this man. Shall we count dead bodies, unconstitutional acts, broken laws and lost treasury by your party? You laugh while people suffer.
When you all decide to monitor or even critize your party and it's positions of death and intolerance instead of blindly following an authoritarian, morally bankrupt cabal against core values of Democracy and human decency. It's finally going to be a bit messy for you.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR | August 15, 2006 05:42 PM
I bet Halter loves this news! This is something he can use against Pryor for not being a true Democrat!!!
Posted by: Haltter for Senate 08!! | August 15, 2006 06:01 PM
Well, it's about time.
Over and over again we've seen these two Senators, especially Lincoln, lean toward the right wing. It seems as though nationally people have picked up on it and are calling our Senators on the carpet. Enough of the "tight rope walking" crap. Take a stand!
If you two Senators want to be Republicans then be Republicans. Stop trying to be on both sides at once. Leiberman tried it, and you see where HE is.
I've been reading John Dean's latest book, and I am struck by the thought that: there are actually Republicans out there that are less right wing than our two "Democrat" Senators.
Posted by: spunkrat | August 15, 2006 06:18 PM
What he does in that position is raise money to try to get Democrats elected.
Posted by: Common Sense
Just what type people do you think give money to the Democratic senatorial campaign committee? Do you think it's the right wing of the party? I assure you most of the money comes from strong Democrats who want to see the party regain the senate, people who will detest Joe Lieberman's run against the Democratic nominee. Do you think these strong Democrats are going to appreciate a call from the likes of Mark Pryor?
Pryor is a fund loser, not a fund raiser, for the DSCC. Replace him immediately with a Democrat.
Posted by: Spirit | August 15, 2006 06:23 PM
Folks, The DSCC is about protecting incumbents. Period.
I have read scores of blog posts where this has been made clear and people all across the country are no longer donating to a protection racket but donating directly to the candidates of their own preference.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR | August 15, 2006 06:36 PM
Mark Pryor is very disappointing. He might as well be a Republican.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 15, 2006 06:37 PM
Mark Pryor should be supporting Lamont. Period.
We need an independent challanger to the left of Mark Pryor in the '08 election, Democrat in the primary or independent in the general election.
Rod Bryan are you listening?
Posted by: Scott E | August 15, 2006 06:48 PM
They wont post what I wrote so I will post it here:
I think I hate Lieberman more than most (my list of grievances would include his moral posturing during the incredibly unconstitutional impeachment of President Clinton, his refusal to hold that lying sob Cheney to account during the VP debate, Schiavo, and his pompous War in Iraq proselytizing) I am not a troll like Derek C talking about the virtues of a nut job like Zell Miller.but Lieberman is not the devil incarnate and we need moderates to help our cause the same way guys like Specter, Hagel, and Chaffee help the Republican party
AND the real rub here is we are talking about disowning Senator Pryor because he stands by his friend? You guys are losing it
FOCUS ON BUSH!!! HE is the real motherf****r here. Let's worry about Ford Jr, Sherrod Brown, Casey and the others we need to take back the Senate. I am happy to support Ned Lamont but you know if Lieberman wins as an independent that he will vote for us.stop spending your energy worrying about this it is becoming a horrible national story for the Democrats.
Third, Tennessee please that town of Knoxville is god awful it looks like Pittsburgh lite... manufacturing hell hole...come over to beautiful Fayetteville and see what a college town is supposed to look like ... and we will see this year about Football
Not to mention enjoy your terrific tandem of Frist and Alexander...meanwhile you sit and bitch about Pryor
Typical bullsh**t from liberals who would rather have Republicans win and be able to bitch than stand by Democrats who we sometimes disagree with
And those ignorant Southern bullshit stereotypes are exactly why f*cking duchebags like John Kerry will never be elected President...they dismiss half the country as ignorant
(as ignorant as someone saying all people in the north are drug addled homosexual America hating atheists who get their kicks by aborting babies on Friday nights)
Percy, Shelby, Faulkner, Tennessee, Anderson, O'Toole, Jazz, Blues, and Rock n Roll...I guess it's just an accident that all that came from the South
I lived in Manhattan, DC and Philadelphia and the shit hole NASCAR infested suburbs around those sophisticated cities make Arkansas look like Soho.
Sid McMath, Joe Robinson, John McClelland (you know the guy who stood up to Sen. McCarthy in "Good Night Good Luck"), William J Fulbright, Dale Bumpers, David Pryor, Blanche Lincoln, Mark Pryor, Wesley Clark and Bill Clinton
Please tell me who has sent better people to Washington than Arkansas?
This year we will elect a Democratic Governor, AG, Lt Gov, Secretary of State, 3 out of 4 Congressman, both US Senators, and 85% of the state house and senate are Democrats
Not to mention we have never had a NASCAR event in Arkansas....thank God
And we were the last place to produce a Democrat who actually became our President
I think the national party could learn a thing or two from Arkansas
Posted by: Banned from Huff Post | August 15, 2006 07:19 PM
Pryor is nowhere near a Republican...He was the only one of our state's delagation who voted against repeal of the horrible DEATH TAX. Pryor is history in '08. (Snyder doesn't count in that vote because he is not not my Rep even though I live in LRock. I won't even recognize this far left socialist as a Congressman. Mayberry will be my Rep.)
Posted by: Anonymous | August 15, 2006 07:21 PM
I've finally come up with some software that automatically hides any post that uses the phrase "horrible death tax" regardless of upper case or lower case or mixed.
If you'd like a copy of this well-worth-it software, write your contact info on the underside of a solid 24k gold brick and send to:
Wes Clark Senate '08
P.O. Box 3276
Little Rock, AR 72203
Posted by: Spirit | August 15, 2006 07:56 PM
They wont post what I wrote so I will post it here...
Posted by: Banned from Huff Post
Gee, I can't imagine why.
(But thanks for your post.)
Posted by: Spirit | August 15, 2006 08:00 PM
Folks, The DSCC is about protecting incumbents. Period.
Posted by: Eureka Springs, AR
Thanks for the heads up.
As long as the incumbents are Democrats I won't have any problem with that, though.
I assume they want a Democratic majority in the senate, for their own greedy purposes, which I'll also go along with.
That being the case, I assume they also put some of the money into fighting Republican incumbents. So I can go along with that too.
All things considered, I'd still send them some cash...if they get rid of Pryor first.
Posted by: Spirit | August 15, 2006 08:05 PM
Spirit...how about this: HORRIBLE DEATH TAX>>>>
Posted by: Anonymous | August 15, 2006 10:06 PM
Hey Spirit......Here it is again :: HORRIBLE DEATH TAX.....also...OLd Wes Clark is a proven loser...refer to President G.W.Bush and not Pres Clark....loser, loser, loser.............ready again: DEATH TAX...DEATH TAX...DEATH TAX... had enough Spirit? LOL
Posted by: Anonymous | August 15, 2006 10:10 PM
Mark Pryor can indeed be disappointing, but what he replaced was much, much worse. Can you recall the Rebublican candidates for Senate in recent years? They all drink the Rwingnut Koolaid by the tanker truck! What we've got in the Senate now are a couple of folks who can't quite break free from the neo-con agenda. They keep a little Koolaid in a flask hidden on their person. I think Blanch has the bigger flask, the question is where she keeps it hidden! :) They are ashamed, but the can't help but take a nip every once and a while.
Maybe Sore Louserman will see the light and pack it up and go home. Maybe GW can give him a job in the administration for a couple of years before they all go to jail. Time will tell. I know a lot of people who are rooting for Ned Lamont to win again in November. Now THAT will be a mandate.
Posted by: Anonymous | August 15, 2006 10:45 PM
In response to:
"Folks, The DSCC is about protecting incumbents. Period."
Unfortunately, it looks like a few liberal extremists want to see how much they can hurt the Deocrats and spread lies.
National Journal just reported:
The DSCC has reserved over $1.64M in the Phoenix and Tucson TV markets over the final 4 weeks in AZ SEN.
That would be real money Pryor and other DSCC leaders helped raise to take out the Republican Senator who has spearheaded the effort to help the uber-rich by completely repealing the estate tax.
If you want to help Lamont, help Lamont. Give him money. But please don't undermine the opportunities other real Democrats have to make advances in this election.
Posted by: DSCC $'s and Sense | August 16, 2006 10:46 AM