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An El Dorado reader notes differences in handling wire copy on an important passage in the story about the resignation of Rep. Mark Foley. He takes both the Democrat-Gazette and the El Dorado News-Times. The D-G editing has the effect of reducing questions about Republican response to indications of impropriety with pages. There are more questions to come, particularly about a Florida newspaper's decision to sit on the story for months and about the Republican who indicated Foley's denials were investigation enough for him. (What would he say? "Yep, you caught me.") Here are the passages, you decide -- spin or just one of those edting things:

D-G VERSION

Campaign aides had previously acknowledged that the Republican congressman e-mailed the former Capitol page five times, but had said there was nothing inappropriate about the exchange. The page was 16 at the time of the e-mail correspondence.
The page was sponsored by Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-La., who said Friday that when he learned of the e-mail exchanges 10 to 11 months ago, he called the teen’s parents. Alexander added, “We also notified the House leadership that there might be a potential problem.”
House Speaker Dennis Hastert said he had asked the chairman of the House’s page board, Rep. John Shimkus, R-Ill., to investigate the page system. “We want to make sure that all our pages are safe and the page system is safe,” Hastert said.

EL-DORADO NEWS TIMES

Campaign aides had previously acknowledged that the Republican congressman emailed the former Capitol page fi ve times, but had said there was nothing inappropri- ate about the exchange. The page was 16 at the time of the e-mail correspondence.
Rep. Rodney Alexander, RLa., who sponsored the page from his district, told reporters that he learned of the emails from a reporter some months ago and passed on the information to Rep. Thomas Reynolds, R-N.Y., chairman of the House Republican campaign organization.
Alexander said he did not pursue the matter further because "his parents said they didn’t want me to do anything."
Carl Forti, a spokesman for the GOP campaign organization, said Reynolds learned from Alexander that the parents did not want to pursue the matter. Forti said, however, that the matter did go before the House Page Board — the three lawmakers and two House offi cials who oversee the pages. It was unclear what the offi cials did.
The board currently is headed by Rep. John Shimkus, RIll., who did not respond to requests for an interview.
House Speaker Dennis Hastert said Friday he had asked Shimkus to investigate the page system. "We want to make sure that all our pages are safe and the page system is safe," Hastert said. 

Meanwhile, another reader remembers Rep. Foley's comments on Bill Clinton's dalliance with a grown woman:

"It's vile," said Rep. Mark Foley, R-West Palm Beach. "It's more sad than anything else, to see someone with such potential throw it all down the drain because of a sexual addiction."

Comments

I'm thinking Shimkus is the Jewish word for the clipped off piece of skin left over after a circumcision. I could be wrong.

We will have all next week to debate the difference between porking a 25 year old intern and using your Congressional penis as a bookmark between Pages. Is anyone else beginning to think there isn't one normal person in Washington, DC?

Look at our bunch, Lincoln looks like a man and Pryor looks like someone who has never had sex in his life. I'm afraid if DNA testing was applied to Congress we'd find out half of them were born female and had sex changes along the way.

What a large, well paid group of perverts we're supporting. No wonder they have a thing for torture. It's time to throw them all out and start over!

The DoG is...well...just a dog...did you notice the editorial today? You can pretty much blame Huss-berg and Co. for helping to keep Arkansas 49th...most people want to trust their dailey to provide them with the whole story...not edited crapola...oh, and the ink sucks too...

The surface has barely been scratched in this Foley story...this guy is a total creep, man...

Dennis Hastert and other GOP thugs have known about this for months...even had a sit down with Foley to see what's up...

Now Boehner, Hastert and the page's own sponsor, Alexander are backpedaling with the typical foggy memory syndrome...

This is most likely a crime...this guy (who also chaired the House caucus on missing and exploited children and was credited with writing the sexual-predator provisions of the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006, which Bush signed in July. -Wash Post) should serve time...and a serious investigation into the cover up is absolutely necessary...

C'mon guys. Give the Demos a little credit. Isn't it possible for someone on "the other side" to have known about this too? What an opportune time for the story to break. No time to get another wingnut to replace him, according to Florida statues:
http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/
"For Florida political junkies, consider this: In all or part of eight
Florida counties on Nov. 7, the general election ballot will feature Katherine Harris atop the Republican ballot followed by Mark Foley. (How's that for a winning ticket?). It is too late for Republicans to put a new candidate on the ballot (see Fla. Statute 100.111 (4) a.
Posted by Steve Bousquet at 9:25:52 PM on September 29, 2006

i am really wondering if our rethuglican in nw arkansas was one booing pelosi yesterday when she requested an immediate investigation and was voted down. how did he vote?

Right Lwood! The current Repuglican leadership has been so open and nonsecretive about their misbehavior, oops , pecaddillos.

The White House thought Jack Abramhoff was an Indian Rabbi who stopped by once for a photo-op.

Tom DeLay was a paragon of ethics. Duke Cunningham was a war hero and would never take money for favors, nor Jerry Lewis.

The EEC and Repuglican leadership is as good at secrecy as it is at blaring Repuglican shadings and prevarications.

Well I'm shocked...another family-values espousing participant in the Clinton witch-hunt found to be a hypocritical fake...shocked.

It'd be nice to say that such disgusting hypocrisy was a rarity, but it's not. I guess it's what we get when so many of our religious leaders are leading the torture/ child-beating packs.

The recent revelation regarding Mark Foley and his fondness for minor boys is the greatest piece of news out of the Republican Party since the revelation that Strom Thurmond had an African-American daughter. It is too bad that this hypocrisy will not be dissected in all its minutiae and receive the same attention as did the former Chief Executive for being serviced by a fat Polish girl. The news has it now that Dennis Hastert has been aware of Foley's taste in young boys for months. This smacks of the American Catholic Church's hermetic cover-up of sexual abuse among its own ranks. I suspect that one of these days the Far Right will tire of this and do something about. But then again, probably not.

Docholiday, hold on, I'm thankful the peice came out now, that's my point. If Foley had been outed in say, June they would have had a shining Christian example to replace him. Now it's too late, Demo's get one by default.

What the hell. Given the revolving door of Congress-K Street, Rep Foley will let things settle enough for the News Cycle to begin anew, and bingo! My money says he will be hired on as a lobbyists for the Log Cabin Republicans! I'm sure Cheney's daughter can pull a few g-strings and make it happen.

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I hate to get off topic when there's so much scorn to heap on the GOP and Mark Foley, but - WHY does everyone have to take a swipe at Monica because she's fat?

It's so sexist. In it I detect the implication that a) it's stupid to expect that a president wouldn't take advantage of his ultimate power to have illicit sex and b) a disappointment that instead of having sex with someone good-looking, he had sex with a girl who could be regarded as "heavy."

I personally thought that it was less than a matter of state that Clinton had poor judgment about getting caught doing something stupid - but I didn't think the collateral pile-on of Monica's appearance (from BOTH sides) elevated any of the discourse.

The Washington Post 1-A Woodward story is up and while I want the Foley and GOP leadership-bashing to go on long and loud, this is the bigger story, folks. The headline on it is "Secret Reports Dispute White House Optimism" but it should have been "Everything the WH Says About Iraq Has Been, And Still Is, A Lie."

Its tragic lateness notwithstanding, it indicts the WH thoroughly.

I urge you to read it all.

Be sure to catch Woodward on 60 Minutes tomorrow evening, too.

I'll read the WP story, but then can we jump back on the Foley thing? It's been like finding a fifty on the sidewalk.

This is a click on my name moment. Someone over on Americablog gives all the reasons Mark Foley should be a candidate for waterboarding. It is my fondest hopes that Senator Mark Pryor reads this and votes to waterboard Mr. Foley as soon as possible because you know, waterboarding ain't torture.

Why shouldn't we waterboard Mark Foley? Is there anything more important in America, and to our future, than our children? Is the molestation of a child somehow less a crime than terrorism. Aren't they both really a form of terrorism against the innocent, the weak? Isn't protecting those who can't protect themselves what America is all about? You know, putting the rights of the victims before the rights of the criminals..........

It's a long read, but a good one!

I have no sympathy for Foley and his tastes for cyper sex and young boys. And, if Foley's your typical pedophile...his sins go much futher than a little chatty chat on the internet. Time will tell.

The fact that the hightest ranking members of the Republican House leadershp made the caculated decision to "cover" this up...to weigh the political ramifications above the emotional saftey of young male House Pages, who they were charged to protect, goes to the heart of the priorities of the GOP.

Money and power. They chose not to protect a 16-year old boy, how can we trust them to protect our country...because their motivations are not what they say they are or appear what they are.

I'm not a tin foil hat kinda guy. This was a right wing conspiracy. These criminnals did the numbers, and with the balance of power hanging on one or two seats...they needed Foley's very safe seat. So, they made the choice, to let this, for now, cyber pedophile run loose, without an investigation to assertain the facts (too public) and without oversight of Foley's behaviour.

Every single Congressman, aide, staffer - who knew about this...needs to be fired, resign, and then promptly prosecuted. It is against the law to not report the acts or suspicions of acts against children on the internet.

Christ...for a simple blow job between 2 consenting adults. I hang my head in shame, as the rest of the world learns about the lengths in which elected officials of the greatest country ever created, would go to protect their power, their money and their jobs. And we call ourselves a Chrisitan nation and a Democracy. Lord have mercy on us.

I have no sympathy for Foley and his tastes for cyper sex and young boys. And, if Foley's your typical pedophile...his sins go much futher than a little chatty chat on the internet. Time will tell.

The fact that the hightest ranking members of the Republican House leadershp made the caculated decision to "cover" this up...to weigh the political ramifications above the emotional saftey of young male House Pages, who they were charged to protect, goes to the heart of the priorities of the GOP.

Money and power. They chose not to protect a 16-year old boy, how can we trust them to protect our country...because their motivations are not what they say they are or appear what they are.

I'm not a tin foil hat kinda guy. This was a right wing conspiracy. These criminnals did the numbers, and with the balance of power hanging on one or two seats...they needed Foley's very safe seat. So, they made the choice, to let this, for now, cyber pedophile run loose, without an investigation to assertain the facts (too public) and without oversight of Foley's behaviour.

Every single Congressman, aide, staffer - who knew about this...needs to be fired, resign, and then promptly prosecuted. It is against the law to not report the acts or suspicions of acts against children on the internet.

Christ...for a simple blow job between 2 consenting adults. I hang my head in shame, as the rest of the world learns about the lengths in which elected officials of the greatest country ever created, would go to protect their power, their money and their jobs. And we call ourselves a Chrisitan nation and a Democracy. Lord have mercy on us.

Mag,
I sort of agree with you about the fat Monica thing, but hell, she is fat. It's a fact. And I am not convinced that she was the sweet little innocent like she has been portrayed. She instigated the whole damn thing, and Clinton stupidly fell into the trap.
Foley is another story - he instigated his own ruin. (And of course "outed" his true sexual orientation.)
Thanks for the other link. Good stuff.

I have to step in here and show support for full figured women like Monica. Not every guy likes em pencil thin and I'm one of them. Maybe it's because the most my old Ma weight was 110 when she was pregnant with me.

I've never liked skinny chicks and never will. So to steal from the Doobie Brothers...Monica's just alright with me, Monica's just alright, uh huh....goodnight Monnie wherever you are! And damn that torture loving, teen boy sexing thug, Dennis Hastert!

Fat(ness) is relative. Some people are turned off by it; others turned on. It takes two to tango, and one thing some people don't consider about that whole situation is that Clinton was much bigger than any rock star. He was the most powerful man in the world. He was handsome, charismatic, interesting, and probably a lot of fun. Women were throwing themselves at him, I just imagine. Who knows what all contributed to his error in judgment over the whole deal.

That's an example of a flaw common to many of us humans, especially as our teeth get longer. We are often attracted to (or distracted by) youth. We can't help it. We can try to control it, but the attraction is still there.

Foley was attracted to youth, apparently. To me, it makes no difference that he preferred boys over girls. He can't help what attracts him.

I would be lying if I said I didn't get a great deal of pleasure from this story breaking. The fact that Foley had the thing for the young boys instead of girls--and the fact that most of our society thinks that IS worse--works out nicely for my personal level of satisfaction over this splendid execution of karma. The deal for me, as it is in most cases, is the hypocrisy...the irony of this crime and the fact that Foley authored the legislation to punish it.

I am holding a copy of Woodward's new book in my hands right now...it's my birthday and my kid sister found it and gave it to me at dinner...there were two left and she bought 'em both...

...typical Woodward, by the way...lots of facts, lots of quotes, lots of credible sources...which spells "oops" for the current administration...

I am going away next week to get my head right...perfect time to do some reading...

The Morning News story on Foley, Sat, Sept 30, said in 2003:
"Foley faced questions abut his sexual orientation as he prepared to run for Sen. Bob Graham's seat. At a news conference in May of that year, he said he would not comment on rumors that he was gay . He later decided not to seek the Senate seat to care for his parents."

"He was credited with writing the sexual predator provisions of the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006, signed into law by Geo W Bush in July with Foley attending the signing ceremony."

Wonder what that signing pen is now worth in Florida?

No way around it...serviced by a fat Polish girl is a nasty comment (what in the hell does Polish have to do with anything?). Sure Monica's a big woman; but as with the Dixie Chicks' Natalie and Hillary Clinton most 'fat' references are not merely assessments of their weight...they're petty tools of the schoolyard bully.

There's nothing like labeling a young girl fat/ugly to shut her up or to otherwise put her in her rightful place on the playground hierarchy...seems some boys just never grow up. Our Congress is full of 'fat' men but that's rarely the chosen adjective when criticisms fly...but Monica/Natalie/Hillary are inevitably fat ugly sluts.

Exactly the reaction I expected.

This is not a seminar on Political Correctness or politeness. It is a front row seat to one of the first penetrations into the brilliantly created and maintained armor of the Republican Party and indeed the Far Right Evangelical Movement controlling that party and this country. This veneer was begun in the Reagan era and carefully manicured to manifest with the Faux election of George W. Bush in 2000. An intelligent part of this overall plan, besides claiming the political fight at the grassroots level over the past 20 years (and evidenced by the local candidacy of Jim Holt, Gunner DeLay, Jim Lagrone, and Asa Hutchison), is to redirect and redefine all issues, including distracting the public.

It is easy to redirect the argument when one forgets "Stick and Stones." This is why the Republicans have been so successful in pummeling the Democrats on all political fronts. The Democrats fawn blanched disgust at even the slightest bit of inappropriate speech and are equally guilty with the Republicans for pointing fingers and crying like a bunch of sissies that a given statement is deemed inappropriate by either camp.

This political tactic of labeling thought or expression was perfected during the inquisition and anything done today, like the pernicious Political Correctness present today, will only distract us from the matter at hand - Representative Mark Foley has handed the left a gift beyond all gifts, one that is politically so far beyond President Clinton's indiscretion that the Democrats almost need do nothing but hide and watch (and perhaps help any other like revelations to the surface) a previous unquestioned Republican House Seat become a Democratic seat.

That is what is important, and Monica was no victim.

Exactly the reaction I expected...

Glad to help...though I disagree with your assessment. The use of sexism is hardly a new political tool of Reagan...or of any one from this century. And, pointing out the disparity of treatment between males/females hardly makes me (and my ilk) responsible for the likes of Bush/Holt/A$a. That's an interesting idea, however...that calling out crap like the sexist demonetization of a Hillary or a Monica makes us feminazis responsible for the Repub's atrocities and the Dem's subservient rollovers.

Political correctness gone amuck is trying to replace the term illegal alien with undocumented alien...they're in this country illegally not as a failure of paperwork.


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