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Can Rove do it again?

Can Karl Rove make the entire mid-term election be about John Kerry (the proven war veteran) v. George Bush (the proven AWOL slacker) again? And will  the country club bully again defeat the warrior? Say it ain't so, America.

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"...will the country club bully again defeat the warrior? Say it ain't so, America. "

It ain't so. Neither snow nor rain not heat nor gloom of night (Karl Rove) stays the cheese dip and champagne from flowing freely.

They're beat. America is tired of them. Mark my word.

Kerry's joke, botched or not, was clearly about Bush being stuck in Iraq, not about the troops who really *are* there. It was about a failed policy and the leader who implemented and continues it.

The Redumblicans can stupidly try to make it about the troops, but it was about Bush.

I sometimes stay up very late at nite trying to decide who is dumber: Bush or Kerry. Without Rove George would be pumping dry holes in Texas and palming them off to his dad's buddies;
Without Teresa Kerry would still be paying off his kid's college loans and firguring out which colour of windsail he wants when he grows up.

Barrack's generation may be the only solution to any of it, if there's anything to salvage when these neo-con glactacians have had their fill.

Kerry again is a real gift-giver to Rove. Why not just write them a huge check from the Ketchup Queen's account and keep your dumb-ass mouth shut for the rest of the campaign?

Kerry's response is a doozy. I heard part of it on the radio this afternoon and he blisters the lying liars good.
I used to have a great deal of respect for McCain, but have zero respect for him since he obviously thinks his survival depends on panderiong to the extreme right.
Kerry basically told them to kiss his ass, and it was refreshing. More Dems need to stand up and be heard.

I hang around the ESPN boards sometimes and there always seem to be threads bashing the Democrats on the NCAA football board. There were a few on John Kerry.

If I didn't know better, I'd say these particularly relentless threads were actually part of the strategy... It just seems so ridiculous and out of place.

I feel the way BlueRidge does about McCain. He used to be one of the few good national Repubs. Now that he's gearing up a for the 2008 race, he's pandering to the right wing and to the nut cases like Falwell.
Now it's time for a letter:
Dear John,
I've left you for the Democratic Party ...

Hell, I'm sorry our troops are stuck in Iraq, but what's that got to do with demonizing Kerry?

I find the so-called liberal media's response to Kerry's poor choice of words somewhat overblown, to Rove's delight.

But despite the sh**storm, Democrats should be able to turn the debate to W's bungling of the Iraq war, not some has-been senator's take. Surely Americans aren't that dumb. Still, that is.

I'm glad Kerry has woke up and started sending zingers Bush's way, but I'll never get over him being sound asleep all thru 2004. Unable or unwilling to point out the sins of the worst administration in US history. What was Kerry thinking? Maybe that politics is an honorable game played between gentlemen? Even I'm not that dumb.

If the American people are stupid enough to continue to vote for these crooks, we deserve them. If Karl Rove is clever enough to steal another election and be allowed to live, then we deserve crooked elections and crooks in office.

I will quit politics forever if Karl Rove gets away with stealing the November 7th election. Why watch a murder if you don't have to? I'll content myself with porn and history and reliving my glory years that are so very far behind me. I will throw up a fence around my house, keep the TVs on Comedy Central and call it good.

I'm not taking my ball and going home, I will just be going home. I'll take a tip from our Republican friends and quit caring about the rest of the world. I'll get what I can for me and mine and the rest of you will just have to soldier on alone.

I have taught my kids to be polite, not think of themselves all the time and to try to leave the world better than they found it. They respect people of other colors, gay people and wish freedom and happiness to everyone else on the planet. In that my wife and I have done a good job and I'm proud of them and us. So I can continue on behind my big fence, living my life as I please and shooting at anyone who crawls over the top with the idea that I have to be them.

I hope for the sake of America and the world that Rove doesn't have continued success. Bush-Cheney have been the worst thing to hit the world since Hitler. They have separated the whole world into little warring groups. They have ruined military service, they have ruined religion, they imply peacemakers are pussies.

They have elevated the dollar to the position of God. They have made Corporate America the 12 apostles. The American worker is hanging from their cross.

The Bush shame is on every American. It will take decades to get the Bush stink off our country. The good will that was associated with the name America is gone and it will take a hundred years to get it back. To vote Republican again will mark you as a bad person. While I can approve of properly screened gay foster parents, I would seriously entertain the idea of removing children from Republican homes for their own good.

Suffer the little children unto Jesus, but at the current time, with the current crop of Republicans, I believe it would be best to protect a forming mind and body and remove it from an evil influence. Perhaps Republican children could be returned to properly screened parents some time after 2010, when things start returning to normal. Drastic actions for drastic times ya know.

Vote smarter on November 7th.

DBI, I am going to argue with you a little bit. I say that you will never give up the fight, because it's too important.
You'll continue to try to do the right things, and encourage others to do so, because I sense that you love this country, but you hate what this country has become under the worst administration we have ever had.
We have to keep on raising hell, no matter what.

It ain't so - don't even raise the question, Max! Everyone knows who Kerry meant.

As for McCain, remember this - stop cutting him any slack, ever. Who should have KICKED IN THE DOOR of Abu Ghraib with every investigative authority at the dispoal of the Congress, as soon as the shame of torture was raised? John McCain, torture victim. He did not do it.

He set up an objection and then knuckled under. He voted for the abolishment of habeus corpus. He "compromised" and America tortured, will torture and does torture in YOUR NAME. The world knows it.

Ask yourself this: a soldier who experienced torture himself in Vietnam SELLS OUT himself, his own suffering, the troops he's supposed to provide protection for and his country's honor because he so badly wants to be president. Forget Halloween. That's the scariest kind of creature I can think of.

mag, you said it better than I did. McCain sold out.

Boy did John Kerry step in it !

what a winning solution you libs have found , get the guy who has made a living out of trashing U.S. soilders to insult them all over again.

And right before an election .

Man can you guys pick winners. Seriuosly you libs should be pissed, why cant he just keep his big mouth shut until the election is over ?

Oh well I guess he just couldnt help himself, again.

TCJ, you are either incapable
of comprehension or you are
a liar. Which is it? You
people have no morals.
Anyone that lies to the voters
in order to win should be
brought up on treason. You
can't have a democracy
when people lie. Any person
with half a brain knows Kerry
was talking about Bush. It's
about time we start treating
these liars as the enemies of
the state that they are.

Democracy is not about winning at any cost. It's about an orderly way of choosing between various choices. As far as I'm concerned, any politician that wins by such blatant lies should not be recognized as a legitimate winner. If that leads to anarchy then it will just have to lead to it.

TCJ, you are either incapable
of comprehension or you are
a liar. Which is it? You
people have no morals.
Anyone that lies to the voters
in order to win should be
brought up on treason. You
can't have a democracy
when people lie. Any person
with half a brain knows Kerry
was talking about Bush. It's
about time we start treating
these liars as the enemies of
the state that they are.

Democracy is not about
winning at any cost. It's
about an civil way of
choosing between various
choices. As far as I'm
concerned, any politician that
wins by such blatant lies
should not be recognized as
a legitimate winner by the
other side. If that leads to
anarchy then it will just have
to lead to it. If you want to
make that bed then prepare to
lie in it.

I think McCain and Hillary suffer from the same affliction. They both want more but are unwilling to speak out or take chances. Just triangulate and capitulate to the corporate will, not the will of the people our constitution or for that matter their own soul.
McCain looks very weak in spirit these days like a beaten man lost in the desert without a horse. Hillary looks cold and jaded like the neocons she backs up who fight wars from their posh nooks and secretly scoff at the little people who don't want to kill or die anymore.
I don't see either one of these Senators leading their party anytime soon. McCain is simply not mean or angry enough to lead Republicans who are angry even when they get everything they want. After all of these years what is one issue McCain may really call his own? When he tries to sound mean or smear Rovian type lies on others, well, he just can't pull it off but keeps on trying.
Hillary speaks with a sound of icy conviction but again with no heart. She wears a condescending smirk on her face that needs to be wiped off. What is her big issue, education? Shouldn't we know these answers by now considering how long they have been in the public eye?
We would all be better off if they both would work hard to use the Senate as it was supposed to be. Restore our bill of rights and accountability in the system. While they are at it they could establish campaign finance reform along with many noble issues our country so desperately needs. They need to show leadership from the positions they are in now for the good of their soul and ours

Been away for a few weeks and I wanted to thank Max for the post on Obamas visit. his introduction of Pryor was very telling and confirmed my worst fears about him.
I know it's late and threads move along quickly but I sure am curious about Woody/Boozman? Any new polls or other updates on the race? I will check back tomorrow in case anyone has info they can link for this hillbilly. Thanks in advance.

Boozman vs. Woody

Seems Boozman has seen fit to take to TV ads lately. Woody has about 1/10 the money Booze-Man has since Booz
sucks up to Corporate America so well. Woody is working 18 hours a day on the campaign. I have not seen polling numbers. Likely Woody began his campaign too late and was anxious to remain close to family thru May as his wife was abut to deliver. The debate carried on AETN this month was a tie at best but it gave Woody exposure.
He's getting my vote. After spending an hour or so with him I was impressed. Boozman could bore a snail to sleep.
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John Kerry's true contempt for the military came through loud and clear. It was only after his "joke" failed, that he tried to blame George Bush. John Kerry is scum.

John Kerry has such a big ego that he can't stand being in the shadows of Hillary and Obama. I sure hope that John Kerry runs for President again...

I just want everyone to read what I wrote about John Kerry's remarks.

http://www.myspace.com/liberaltopher

You can watch the Rovian touch in all this as the debate has become "should Kerry not/apologize" as thought it centers on social grace.

A real interesting factoid would be the socio-economic status of who's getting sent to Iraq. For all we know, Kerry's right, and the people in Iraq are the ones who didn't have the social means to keep their dumb asses out of the war.

That's the shame of it all is that the corporate media is leaving this issue at the argument, and not the facts which may or may not indicate the validity of the statement(s).

Thanks for the update Lwood....) Sure would like to see Dems pour some salt on that snail.

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