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As one of my favorite bumper stickers says:

"God is interested in spiritual fruits, not religious nuts."

I thought it interesting that near the end of the article it stated that voting was up among other religious factions who normally support the liberal or Democratic side.

Apparently what's illegal and/or criminal for us common folks doesn't apply equally to Bible Thumpers for they truly believe that Jesus would need to act as a modern day criminal to get her/his message across!

In other words I'm suppose to believe that evangelical criminals, thieves, pedophiles etc., have a better chance getting through the pearly's than I - Damn!

We only have to look at Iraq to see the turmoil religious fanatics have on sane political governments.

As long as republicans control all branches of government there will never be an IRS initiated investigation into the illegality/ pitfalls and immorality of mixing religion/politics. That, among many, is one more reason it's so imperative that the deadlock be broken come Nov 7.

Anyone who truly believes that our home grown Evangelical Angels are any less violent/determined than Iraq's Allah Angels have rocks in the heads.

LBJ once said that conservative radicals are dangerous. I truly believe that these so-called christains are as dangerous as they come. Anybody who advocate blowing up abortion clinics and insist on carrying guns as many do have to be dangerous. The big problem is i think some of the ones carring guns aren't smart enough not to fire them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3yyDCbnj38

I wonder when the "church going" crowd is gonna finally wise up?

The thugs have had control of Congress and the Senate for 10 years. For the last 6 years, they've had control of ALL branches of the federal government...control of what laws get presented.

Yet not one piece of legislation or proposed amendments on these hot social issue;

No Roe v Wade
No ban on gay marriage
No ban on gay adoption
School prayer
Display of the 10 commandments in gov locations

I could on and on...

The thugs sure have done a number of the Christian right sheep.
If they lose these "social, christian" isssue...what they gonna run on...war, economics, smaller government? Nope.

The Conservative Christian movement have been played like a fine piano...their Republican leaders are happy to play the tune...they just ain't gonna write the music.

Saps...

From the article: Pastors can further help their favored candidates by distributing "issue-oriented" voter guides in church, a tactic used for years among secular (often left-leaning) groups such as the National Assn. for the Advancement of Colored People . . .
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A church has the right to speak out on issues impacting their beliefs. But, if a church crosses the line by endorsing a specific candidate from the pulpit, then by all means, file a complaint and let the court, or the Internal Revenue Service, sanction them.

But, like all things political, now that the right is allegedly doing what the left was doing all along . . . its a problem! When do we end the double standard?

What's the difference between churches and unions? Unions push their socialistic creed, spend their members money without input. And a lot more union leaders have been convicted of crimes than church leaders. Same rules for both.

Bubba, you're speaking without any facts to back you up. Just your opinion of the situation and probably personal prejudice thrown in to boot.
And, DK, I think you'll find that a lot of Democratic/liberal church politics in the past had to do with social injustice while current Republican/conservative church politics has to do with social prejudice.
Like I said in a previous post, I don't vote for BIG(idi)OTS.

Hi campers....word has just come out that Colin Powell says he was FIRED. It's it a lovely week for the GOP. The hits just keep on coming!

"Unions push their socialistic creed, spend their members money without input. And a lot more union leaders have been convicted of crimes than church leaders."

LOL. Thanks for the laugh, Bubba. You oughta run for office.....as a repub, of course....

I'll be happy to do away with unions if we can do away with churches.....anyone want to make that deal?

(the reality is unions are dying and churches are doing very very well)

To my point and one of them "warm and fuzzzy" moments.

Religious Rights Weighs in on Foleygate

SherAn over at DKos did a little research -
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/1/144036/652

Results of survey:

American Family Association (Donald Wildmon) - no comment

Christian Coalition - no comment
Main page has news updated as of 9/29/06 - no report

Concerned Women for America (Beverly LaHaye) - no comment
Press releases on main page - no report

Coral Ridge Ministries (D. James Kennedy) - no comment

Culture and Family Institute - no comment

Family Research Council (Tony Perkins) - no comment
Scrolling News - no report

Focus on the Family (James Dobson) - no comment

Institute of American Values - no comment

Repent America - YES!!!!!

Southern Baptist Convention (Richard Land) - no comment
SBC President Frank Page - no comment

Talk to Action (Rick Scarborough) - no comment

Toward Tradition (Daniel Lapin) - no no comment
Toward Tradition scrolling news updates - no comment

Traditional Values Coalition (Louis P. Sheldon) - no comment
Press releases page contains five items on homosexuality, none on Foley

Vision America - Rick Scarborough Report - no

World Harvest Church (Rod Parsley) - no

Are these groups really what they say they are? Chrisitian based, protect the family, yadee yadee, da?

Obviously not, it's Sunday, 48 hours after it was exposed that the Republican Leadership was covering up and potecting a pedophile.

And not one word from the Religous Right. Must be invovled in those "political" strategy meetings...on how to protect their money and power, and how to spin this.

As a Christian, and a believer, I gotta wonder what Jesus is thinking right now?

DK, I think you'll find that a lot of Democratic/liberal church politics in the past had to do with social injustice while current Republican/conservative church politics has to do with social prejudice. - Posted by: Jake da Snake
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Jake- I disagree with your characterization that current Republican/conservative politics has to do with social prejudice.

I am not saying there is an absolute lack of prejudice, because any observer can find prejudice acted out in extreme elements of both parties. Correct me if I misunderstood you, but it sounds like you are saying that it is OK to break the law if you do so for a perceived social injustice - If that is true, then I guess you at least understand (even though you don't approve) and won't condemn pro-life activists who peacefully block abortion clinics based on their perception of social injustice.

But back to the point - I don't see anyone disputing the fact that the left has conducted "get out the vote" drives and blatant partisan politicking from the pulpit - but, for some reason, only the right gets vilified for it. Even Max's choice of headlines castigates the right for their conduct on the issue with no mention that the left (see the NAACP citation) apparently pioneered this "tactic".

It seems journalistically irresponsible to use such a broad brush to smear a whole segment of our society based on the comments of a few activists like Michael Staver. Mr. Staver may speak for his organization, but he may not be speaking for the rank and file conservative Christians.

Lets make sure the referee calls the penalties fairly using the same rules for both teams. . .

"As a Christian, and a believer, I gotta wonder what Jesus is thinking right now?

Once again the Second Coming happened in the late 40's. To the dismay of many we are "Left Behind" to live in this hell. How else would the
greediest, most corrupt people be running the world, advocating torture, dropping napalm, bombing civilian populations, letting their neighbors starve, pumping tons of toxins into our waters, overloading the atmosphere with more carbon than it can cycle out.

Now comes this fellow who wrote one of the defining pieces of Republican legislation to protect children from sexual predators and is one him self. That's what it's like. Welcome to Hell ! There is no Moral Majority, there will be no Armaggeddon, no raputure cause it already happened.
Now we're just debating on who is less evil and we all do so wearing clothes and our children play with toys made with slave labor all supported by those who profess to believe in something more righteous than our selves. What a damn joke!
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DK,

I expected you to use anti-abortion and I think you are fair in doing so. It is perceived as a social injustice; however, it is likewise viewed as a social injustice by the abortion crowd.
There's no denying that churches have been political hotbeds in the past. Liberals would be wrong to deny how black churches were instrumental in the civil rights movement and anti-war movement.
Still, the bottomline is the cause and I think that is what makes the current brouhaha so important. The root cause of the Christian evangelical's political campaign is religious intolerance and bigotry, both anathemas to the American concept of freedom and justice.
To continue your sports metaphor, there are penalties on both sides but the more severe personal foul call goes against the team that denies rights to its fellow citizens.

To continue your sports metaphor, there are penalties on both sides but the more severe personal foul call goes against the team that denies rights to its fellow citizens. - Posted by: Jake da Snake
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Unfortunately, I am still looking for the flag thrown for the "inadvertent face mask" that preceded this grievous foul. . .

I'm being pulled from the game by my coach. She's got to fly to Germany tomorrow and needs me to fix up the evening's repast while she packs for the trip. I'll check back later to see how the game turned out.
Enjoyed visiting and debating with you DK.
("Inadvertent face mask???")

Better talk to your agent.

Inadvertant face mask foul = 5 yards.

Intentional yank his head around backwards face mask foul = 15 yards.

Agent? Agent? I don't need no stinkin' agent . . .

Have a good filght!

Oops. F l i g h t.