Tempting Faith
A devoted Arkansas Blog reader refers us to what she describes as the "best political blog in Arkansas." We shrugged off the insult and took a look. Mark Elrod's Lame-o Weblog is the work of a poli sci prof at Harding University. At the top of his list today is a discussion of the hot new book that interested our readers yesterday -- former White House staffer David Kuo's Tempting Faith: An Inside Story of Political Seduction. This is the book that outlines how the Bush White House plays evangelicals for chumps and privately scorns them. Elrod links to Crooks and Liars, which has the transcript plus video of Keith Olbermann's exclusive on the book; quotes Machiavelli, and comments, "Sounds like somebody has been using religion to get some votes."
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From the book:
Among the charges made by Kuo in Tempting Faith: An Inside Story of Political Seduction is that Karl Rove's office referred to evangelical leaders as 'the nuts' and that while national Christian leaders received hugs and smiles in person, they were dismissed behind their backs and described as 'ridiculous,' 'out of control,' and just plain 'goofy.'
Jeez, it's hard to pick the villain in this piece.
Posted by: Claude Bahls
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October 12, 2006 10:56 AM
What a bunch of dupes. Maybe religion has intoxicated their brains for so long that they can't tell what right and wrong in the real world.
Fundies:
Was it not obvious that Bush's war was wrong?
Was it not obvious that his administration was rife with corruption?
Is it not obvious that illegal wire-tapping and civilian surveillance is wrong?
Etc x 100000.
Are you too stupid, too intoxicated with your religion, or too genuinely evil to understand right from wrong when it's hitting you over the head?
Religion: groupthink at its best.
Religion does not make someone a better person. I'm sure the response to that will be: "Oh, but those people are not being true Christians." Isn't that convenient? That there's always an excuse and no accountablity?
That's like saying the Bible is right because it says so.
Posted by: JD
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October 12, 2006 11:37 AM
That's very nice of you (whoever said it) but I have always considered the ArkTimes blog to be the best political blog in Arkansas.
Based on what I have heard so far from my failthful evangelical readers, this book and it's suggestion that they have been taken for a ride for the last six years is not going over well.
Thanks for the linkage.
Posted by: Elrod
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October 12, 2006 01:07 PM
Like that old school song. "Everybody plays the Fool sometime, no exception to the rule". It must the "Religious Right" time. They are finding out what the Democrats have known all the time. You could look at George Bush and see that he was still drinking and everything else he wanted to do. If the Religious Right was not so wrapped into abortion and gay marriages they could have concentrated on what the war would do, especially if they know bibical history. We had no business in Iraq. Now, they complain? Why, because of bombings, beheading and every deplorable thing that you can imagine happening to our men and women in Iraq. Christians should know the culture and must know that we have no control. If it had not been for the oil in Iraq, Saddaam Hussien would still be in power and almost three thousand of our soldiers would not have died in vain.
Posted by: Poetry In Motion
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October 12, 2006 01:24 PM
Does anyone remember this? I predict the Democrats will take back Congress and Boozman will retire. Holt will lose to Halter and then it will be a brawl between Holt and Campbell in the 3rd. I can't wait.
http://arkansastruth.blogspot.com/2005/09/truth-about-mac-campbell-democrat.html
Posted by: Principe
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October 12, 2006 01:40 PM
Mark's blog is indeed a good one...he's one of the most thoughtful, reasonable, and insightful political observers that I know! Glad to see his blog is getting some well-deserved attention!
As for Kuo's book...I've always wondered why the Religious Right hasn't caught on to the fact that they've been taken for a ride. Case in point: in 2004, GWB was reelected, at least in part, by promising a constitutional amendment to prohibit gay marriage. Two years into his second term, with a Republican Congress, no such amendment has been approved and Bush has apparently used none of his vaunted "political capital" to do so.
In 2006 and 2008, will the R.R. take Pete Townshend's advice or will they get fooled again?
Posted by: NoZe
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October 12, 2006 04:17 PM
Mark's blog is indeed a good one...he's one of the most thoughtful, reasonable, and insightful political observers that I know! Glad to see his blog is getting some well-deserved attention!
As for Kuo's book...I've always wondered why the Religious Right hasn't caught on to the fact that they've been taken for a ride. Case in point: in 2004, GWB was reelected, at least in part, by promising a constitutional amendment to prohibit gay marriage. Two years into his second term, with a Republican Congress, no such amendment has been approved and Bush has apparently used none of his vaunted "political capital" to do so.
In 2006 and 2008, will the R.R. take Pete Townshend's advice or will they get fooled again?
Posted by: NoZe
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October 12, 2006 04:18 PM
Mark's blog is indeed a good one...he's one of the most thoughtful, reasonable, and insightful political observers that I know! Glad to see his blog is getting some well-deserved attention!
As for Kuo's book...I've always wondered why the Religious Right hasn't caught on to the fact that they've been taken for a ride. Case in point: in 2004, GWB was reelected, at least in part, by promising a constitutional amendment to prohibit gay marriage. Two years into his second term, with a Republican Congress, no such amendment has been approved and Bush has apparently used none of his vaunted "political capital" to do so.
In 2006 and 2008, will the R.R. take Pete Townshend's advice or will they get fooled again?
Posted by: NoZe
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October 12, 2006 04:20 PM
Mark's blog is indeed a good one...he's one of the most thoughtful, reasonable, and insightful political observers that I know! Glad to see his blog is getting some well-deserved attention!
As for Kuo's book...I've always wondered why the Religious Right hasn't caught on to the fact that they've been taken for a ride. Case in point: in 2004, GWB was reelected, at least in part, by promising a constitutional amendment to prohibit gay marriage. Two years into his second term, with a Republican Congress, no such amendment has been approved and Bush has apparently used none of his vaunted "political capital" to do so.
In 2006 and 2008, will the R.R. take Pete Townshend's advice or will they get fooled again?
Posted by: NoZe
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October 12, 2006 04:22 PM
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/11/olbermann-exclusive-dissecting-new-book-tempting-faith/
Link for the ABOVE POST Watch it for yourself...........
RLR
Posted by: RLR | October 12, 2006 01:00 AM
RLR posted the LINKC&L countdown MSNBC story at 1 am last night .....i like elrod's blog thanks
Posted by: RLR
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October 12, 2006 05:20 PM
"Does anyone remember this? I predict the Democrats will take back Congress and Boozman will retire. Holt will lose to Halter and then it will be a brawl between Holt and Campbell in the 3rd. I can't wait."
"Principe" those predictions are nowhere to be found on the page you linked to.
Holt will be toast if he loses again. He would not win the Republican nomination even if Boozman retired. I doubt Campbell would move back to Arkansas again to run for the 3rd CD but he might.
Posted by: BBQ
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October 13, 2006 01:24 AM
I think that is why he moved back. I only met him during the campaign (at the Western Sizzlin in Springfield where he gave that speech) Why on Earth would he run for Treasurer? I think you have a young Democrat from Republicanland who knew he couldn't start from scratch, so he ran against Gus Wingfield to build up his name and get the point across that he had Washington DC experience. The point of that link to me is that back before Gus dropped out Campbell was running a Congressional campaign.
Posted by: Principe
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October 13, 2006 11:24 AM
Campbell fully expected to win the Treasurer's race. You don't put that much money in a race just to get some name id. 3/4th of the name id he may have received would be wasted on a 3rd CD bid. If anything, he hoped to run for the US Senate after being Treasurer a term or two.
Posted by: The Bold and The Blue
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October 13, 2006 04:04 PM
If Campbell thought he could beat Wingfield he was nuts. Gus would have killed him. However, I suspect he knows that Congressional politics are all about money and reality. He was after all a creation of Congressional politics. So, he found something to run for that built his name up and helped him raise money.
You don't run against a Congressional incumbent in a safe seat if you know ANYTHING about politics. An open seat, however, is a different thing. However, you can't just appear out of nowhere when the seat opens up. VanWinkle damn near won that seat when it was open. If VanWinkle has had a track record and a well known name he would have won. Unfortunetely we got a line of Hutchinsons instead. I suspect, (if he was old enough) that Campbell remembers that.
Either Campbell is incredibly studid and thought he was going to swing into Arkansas after being in DC for 5 or 6 years and win statewide, or he is very smart and understands how things work. He raised enough money to show the DSCC and national donors that he is a real candidate, he positioned himself as a moderate Democrat, and he garnered so much support in the business community and amongst Republicans that it cost him the Democratic Primary for State Treasurer. He is perfectly positioned to run for Congress in the 3rd.
If the Democratic Party leadership doesn't understand that Mac is their only chance for the 3rd CD, EVER!, they deserve the next line of Hutchinsons that will be produced there.
Posted by: Seeth
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October 13, 2006 07:36 PM
This is sort of interesting . . . Principe has a point. I never saw this article but I like it. I might have voted for Campbell if I had known he was willing to take on the Rs like this. Good stuff! Revival tent . . .funny.
Here's the article.
Candidate Calls Attention to Office
BY LAURA KELLAMSPosted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005
SPRINGDALE - Voters should pay more attention to the state treasurer's office, taking time to learn about how and where state money is invested, a Democratic candidate for the office said Tuesday. Mac Campbell of Harrison said the 2006 race for state treasurer probably won't get much attention from voters or the news media. "Ask the questions, because the treasurer's seat is more important than you know," he said during a speech to the Northwest Arkansas Senior Democrats. "Most folks that walk in to vote for state treasurer won't know my name.... They'll probably vote for the first name on the ballot." Campbell is an attorney and former tax policy adviser to U.S. Sen. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark. State Treasurer Gus Wingfield of Delight, also a Democrat, hasn't said if he's running, although he's raising money for the race. Another Democrat, former state Rep. Don House of Walnut Ridge, has also said he's running. Campbell said people should pay more attention because the treasurer watches over billions of dollars in tax money and decides where some of that money is invested. He said it should be invested not "with a specific buddy" but where it yields the most benefit for Arkansas. In an interview later, Campbell said he wasn't trying to imply that Wingfield invests for his friends' benefit. "I'm not in a position to say bad things are going on, but I have questions, and I think the public should ask questions," he said. "And I think the question would be: Is our state money being managed for the public trust or is it being managed for personal gain in ways to benefit political cronies?" Wingfield was out of town Tuesday and didn't return a telephone message left for him at his office. Wingfield has been the subject of criticism for hiring his daughters to work in his office. Campbell was asked by a Senior Democrats member whether he'd do something similar. "Well, I've not been fortunate enough to find the woman of my dreams, so I do not have any children to hire," Campbell said to the group's laughter. Campbell described himself as a populist who's from a long line of Democrats and a seventh-generation Arkansan. He said Democrats should generally do a better job asking questions about who benefits from public policy and public spending. For example, he said he thinks Republicans like it when the nation goes into debt because many of them, as investors, benefit from the interest payments. He joked at one point that Republicans are more interested in money than religious conviction, saying that Republicans want to lure voters to the "revival tent" so they can sneak back to town and take their money. "They're not interested in salvation. They're interested in the money," said Campbell, who describes himself as a Christian. Clint Reed of Greenbrier, executive director of the Republican Party of Arkansas, said the comments sounded like typical Democrats' attacks. "It is repulsive that Mr. Campbell would question the religious convictions and beliefs of thousands of Christians across this state, especially as a punch line to a political stump speech," Reed said.
Posted by: SnM
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October 13, 2006 07:57 PM
A few things here . . . Woody Anderson might just sneak up on Boozy so let's not start recruiting Campbell just yet.
That said, I don't know what,
"I doubt Campbell would move back to Arkansas again to run for the 3rd CD but he might." means.
I happen to know Mac and he hasn't moved anywhere since coming home. In fact, I happen to know that he has gone on a long vacation to South America to study Spanish and will be returning sometime before the election.
And this "If anything, he hoped to run for the US Senate after being Treasurer a term or two" is interesting only because it was clearly written by someone who wants to make Mac look bad . . .my question is this, is it the Republicans or other ambitious Democrats who have fueled a blog piece about a guy who LOST . . .who is scared here? Interesting.
Posted by: WordSmithy
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October 13, 2006 08:21 PM