How bad is it in Iraq?
It's so bad that Hillary Clinton is now lowering the boom on the Bush handling of the war and everything else. Another Times article on the Kerry flap illustrates the downside of Bush talking tough on the war while Republican candidates all over the country are busy trying to distance themselves from the debacle.
The Washington Post analysis agrees that a hard-campaigning Bush just might energize Democrats as much as Republicans. Yes, I can see how the sight of him on TV might encourage people to vote.







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I saw a video clip this morning of Bush speaking yesterday, saying, "The difference between the Democrats and the Republicans is clear: The Democrats want to bring our troops home from Iraq. The Republicans want to WIN the war in Iraq."
I know the Republicans are supposed to be political geniuses, but I just don't think he won many votes with that one. 60% of the population wants to bring the troops home.
Posted by: Spirit
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November 1, 2006 07:58 AM
Hillary is right on. She hit the nail on the head. Can you say "Madam President"?
Posted by: AFCLL
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November 1, 2006 08:31 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how eager y'all are to report what you consider to be bad news. You're so happy to see what you think is evidence of your own country losing in war. How shameful.
Posted by: Anonymous
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November 1, 2006 10:12 AM
Yeah nony, it delights us to think our friends the terrorists are winning in Iraq. Nothing more fun that seeing America's youth blown to pieces each morning when we wake up.
I figure if all our kids are killed in Iraq us old guys can sweep in, steal their iPods and their hottie little girlfriends! Me and Max personally sent US troop maps to the terrorists in Iraq so they could slaughter 103 of our troops in the month of October. The dirty little secret is everyone at the AT holds boodles of shares of flag and casket company stocks. I think I'm making 26 cents on every unseen flag draped coffin that comes back to our shores.
When we're not having sex with our own kids on a stack of Bibles we're delighting in the bloodshed in Iraq. Why, I was just telling the Devil this morning how fun it is to hate America. How I will not be happy until the Mongol hordes cross our borders and fry up old people for lunch. We all know they're really Mexicans under those disguises and gay on top of that.
I'm going to spend this afternoon hoping and praying for another Katrina to hit followed by wildfires and a series of earth quakes that will level all of America by dinner time. I just wish there was more hours in the day for us liberals to hurt America and make people like you feel superior in every way.
Now, you'll have to excuse me, I've got a couple of cute 6 day old twins to boil.
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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November 1, 2006 10:43 AM
"It never ceases to amaze me
how eager y'all are to report
what you consider to be bad
news. You're so happy to
see what you think is
evidence of your own
country losing in war. How
shameful.
Posted by: Anonymous"
Sometimes I think your "winning a war/losing a war" interest is more about feeling good to win, like winning or losing a football game.
Yes, we welcome evidence that shows the people of this nation that the Iraq War was and is a mistake and we need to get out.
It's not winnable, but even if it was, it's not worth the price. Iraq just isn't THAT important. Even the Administration's advisers admit being there is doing us more harm than good, creating more anti-Americanism and terrorists than we'd have had otherwise.
It's a mistake to just stay because YOU hate to be a loser. That's selfish in a way that kills Americans needlessly (and costs a FORTUNE)!
Posted by: Spirit
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November 1, 2006 10:46 AM
"It's not winnable, but even if it was, it's not worth the price. Iraq just isn't THAT important. Even the Administration's advisers admit being there is doing us more harm than good, creating more anti-Americanism and terrorists than we'd have had otherwise."
The war is being won. Please demonstrate to me how the terrorists are winning. Oh, that's right, we're killing and capturing them by the busload every day. You equate our servicemen dying to losing. That has never been a measure of winning and losing, except when you compare the number of the enemy dying to the number of our servicemen dying.
This is not about me being a loser. It's about your delusion that it's somehow patriotic to want our country to lose.
Posted by: Anonymous
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November 1, 2006 01:32 PM
"The war is being won.
Posted by: Anonymous"
In it's last throes, is it? That, Mr. Cheney, is the most ridiculous statement you've made in months.
"Please demonstrate to me
how the terrorists are
winning."
They win when we live like nervous Nellys. They win when we change our way of life and spend a TRILLION dollars trying to prevent the big mean terrorists from, figuratively, stinging us on the arm, which is, realistically, about all they could really do to us. They could never take our country from us, but their mere threat that they might do "something" has us in near panic. As Osama said recently, he doesn't have to do ANYTHING to us because what we're doing to ourselves is much worse than anything he could have done. That, I believe, is a decent definition of successful, winning terrorism.
"That has never been a
measure of winning and
losing, except when you
compare the number of the
enemy dying to the number of
our servicemen dying."
Oh, you're a body count guy. How'd that work out in Vietnam?
"This is not about me being a
loser. It's about your delusion
that it's somehow patriotic to
want our country to lose."
I don't want my country to lose, sir. But I want it to pick it's battles/wars based on sound analysis of the need, with war being the last resort, rather than creating reasons to attack just so a cowboy can finish the job he thinks his father failed to finish.
Posted by: Spirit
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November 1, 2006 01:50 PM
Perhaps, many of us find the war unjustified and feel that the administration used a bait-and-switch tactic. The original war on terror was against the Taliban in Afghanistan. The lead culprit was Osama.
Bush misleads us into a war of aggerssion against Iraq and Saddam. There is no UN resolution or evidence of overt aggression by Iraq against the United States. Sure they were thumbing their noses at the UN for a while but were already beginning to relent on this stand prior to the invasion. No WMDs, no enriched uranium, no tubing, etc.
It is not unpatriotic, but quite the contrary, to speak out when the leaders of your country take your sons and daughters off to war on false and flimsy evidence. Worse yet, we assume a role which Americans have long felt anathema to, that is the role of being the aggressor.
Your super-patriot act is getting old because you seem to forget other conflicts that were resolved in our history which didn't require that we win at all costs.
Let me quote your own leader:
"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --George W. Bush, interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006
"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and get them out of harm's way."-Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."-Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005
Posted by: Jake da Snake
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November 1, 2006 02:02 PM
Perhaps, many of us find the war unjustified and feel that the administration used a bait-and-switch tactic. The original war on terror was against the Taliban in Afghanistan. The lead culprit was Osama.
Bush misleads us into a war of aggerssion against Iraq and Saddam. There is no UN resolution or evidence of overt aggression by Iraq against the United States. Sure they were thumbing their noses at the UN for a while but were already beginning to relent on this stand prior to the invasion. No WMDs, no enriched uranium, no tubing, etc.
It is not unpatriotic, but quite the contrary, to speak out when the leaders of your country take your sons and daughters off to war on false and flimsy evidence. Worse yet, we assume a role which Americans have long felt anathema to, that is the role of being the aggressor.
Your super-patriot act is getting old because you seem to forget other conflicts that were resolved in our history which didn't require that we win at all costs.
Let me quote your own leader:
"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --George W. Bush, interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006
"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and get them out of harm's way."-Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."-Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005
Posted by: Jake da Snake
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November 1, 2006 02:09 PM
Perhaps, many of us find the war unjustified and feel that the administration used a bait-and-switch tactic. The original war on terror was against the Taliban in Afghanistan. The lead culprit was Osama.
Bush misleads us into a war of aggression against Iraq and Saddam. There is no UN resolution or evidence of overt aggression by Iraq against the United States. Sure they were thumbing their noses at the UN for a while but were already beginning to relent on this stand prior to the invasion. No WMDs, no enriched uranium, no tubing, etc.
It is not unpatriotic, but quite the contrary, to speak out when the leaders of your country take your sons and daughters off to war on false and flimsy evidence. Worse yet, we assume a role which Americans have long felt anathema to, that is the role of being the aggressor.
Your super-patriot act is getting old because you seem to forget other conflicts that were resolved in our history which didn't require that we win at all costs.
Let me quote your own leader:
"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --George W. Bush, interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006
"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and get them out of harm's way."-Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."-Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005
Posted by: Jake da Snake
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November 1, 2006 02:09 PM