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Story telling -- UPDATE

A contributor to the Daily Kos blog joined in a National Review meeting in Washington last weekend to get a read on the conservative opposition. Read down in the link and you'll find extensive coverage of Mike Huckabee's appearance shortly after his announcement for president on Tim Russert. The writer came away favorably impressed by Huckabee's likable speaking style -- he calls him "the human apple pie." He also related a story told by Huckabee that we don't recall reading about in local media.

Finally he tells us the story of Martha, a school teacher in Little Rock, who took all the desks away from her students one morning and said she wouldn’t give them back until they figured out how they’d earned them. Nobody could come up with the answer, and the story grew throughout the day, until by the afternoon the news media were camped out in the classroom with the puzzled students, and Martha opened the door and in walked 27 veterans, each one carrying a desk, and Martha says this is how you earned them; never forget those who were willing to shed their blood for you. And here Huckabee’s voice cracks a little and a shiver runs down my spine. "We must never forget," he says. "We must never forget how we got here."

Standing ovation.

Speaking of Mike Huckabee: The Wall Street Journal today carries an op-ed on him under the dual byline of Paul Greenberg and Kane Webb of the Democrat-Gazette. It's an edited version of the newspaper's editorial Thursday -- referenced and linked in this earlier blog item -- which, after some talk about presidential politics backed into some criticism of Huckabee for his thin-skinned reaction to newspaper coverage and his attack on a D-G reporter particularly.

UPDATE: Our attention is called to another broadside by the Club for Growth against Huckabee on his tax policies. A certain throwaway tabloid is quoted.

 

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This won't be the Huckster's only total fabrication during his campaign.

So which is it? Was Huckabee raised poor or solidly middle class? It matters only if he's saying he was poor and he really wasn't. We all know that Janet was homeless there for a little while.

That's a sweet story about the vets carrying the desks in, and all. But how did the kids earn them? Didn't Martha give them the answer? Does Huckabee relating that story somehow make him patriotic?

I hope you're having pancakes for breakfast, because there's plenty of treacle in that yarn.

Huckabee has told this story to national audiences before and gotten away with it. What's sauce for Joe Biden should be sauce for the Goose-Stepper.

The DOD Inspector General should begin an investigation by issuing a subpoena to Huckabee for testimony on the incident, and the military brass should court martial whomever ordered federal troops to again invade a public school in our sovereign state.

Preachers always tell made up stories in the first person to make a point. Jesus started it.

The trouble is, Huckabee thinks it's okay to go on making them up away from the pulpit and, as Delphi points out, he always gets away with it.

I find that people who haven't worn the uniform in times of danger are the quickest to fabricate tales which connect them to those events.

You are correct Louie, especially those who are exempt from any kind of military service.

I think the key word in Huck's whole drama is the word "story."
My granny used to catch me in little lies and she would ask, "Are you telling me a story?"
Baptist preachers have an affinity for stories, whether they're true or not. They consider them parables for modern times. Note the shed their blood for you theme that comes up in one line.
There is one canard from the preacher repertoire however that would be fitting about Iraq: that story about the traveler in the rain who sees a man desperately waving for him to pull over. He does and learns that the bridge is out ahead and if he had kept going, he would've plunged to certain doom.

Ah, the gullibility factor. At least the writer sees the Huckster for what he really is:
"Keep a wary eye on Mike Huckabee. Conservatism thrives not by the strength of its ideas, but by the strength of its storytelling."
Would that the rest of the country would come 'round, not only to Huckabee, but also to the rest of those pols (and they are not limited to the Republican Party) who mouth platitudes while picking your pocket.

What a dumb story. It might fly from a pulpit, but here it just sounds like one of those urban legend-type e-mails (sent by relatives and "friends") that cause you to roll your eyes and delete (or reply with a link to snopes.com).

Surely someone in Little Rock would remember such an incident, if it had ever occurred.

H is beginning to sound as if he believes that if he says something, it is so. That's just dangerous.

If this story isn't true, doesn't this make Huckabee comparable to a Jason Blair or Janet Cooke?

Back in the 60s we had a high school teacher who would spin patriotic yarns just about like Hucks's. Everyone grew quiet and solemn. A few years later a few of us would be sharing a doobie and have a little contest on who could tell the best anit-commie, patriotic story,
that is with a straight face until the end before everyone began laughing out loud, slapping knees and grabbing the Boone's Farm.

It's stories like these and ensuing attitudes that make otherwise grown men become total fools as DBI points
over in Biliken Man with the Lite Brite story. Click on my name for a YouTube take on how today's youth process the
OrangeAlert-Kool-Aid factor.

That National Review would buy into such tidy little tales says a lot about their level of Rovian patriotism. But, wouldn't surprise me if half the staff at National Review had sat around in doobie circles and shared some laughs over the National Security State of Mind, except they use it for profit motives and we simply used them for ribald, myth-busting humor.

This story is true. I work at a local TV station and remember covering it. I think it was at Robinson High School. Now, we didn't camp out all day. We were told what was going on and were told what time to be there as the veterans came in with the desks.

True or not, it's a dumb story. What about all the others who've sacrificed their all for the country? Must be some sort of commie/conservative teacher to be bringing her partisan politics into the classroom like that...plus she denied the students a day's education just so they could be indoctrinated into her way of thinking--yup, a commie/conservative.

Ok "News Junkie" - throw down. If you worked at the station that covered it, verify your story with evidence.

Ok "News Junkie" - throw down. If you worked at the station that covered it, verify your story with evidence.

Posted by: mag
BINGO...... MAG that was going to be my next question . I'll yield to your question.. tell us news junkie what

Station???

It took me a couple of minutes to think about it and then I remembered a little incident that took place in 1965 or 66. It pays to remember things....they'll pop back up later in life and you'll find yourself ahead of the curve because you've already learned your lessons.

I was 10 or 11 and at Baptist Church camp outside of Siloam Springs. It was towards the end of the week and I was pretty bored and kinda homesick. My Mom had sent me 5 bucks in a letter from home, which only made me more homesick than ever.

We had done our Bible stuff for the morning shift and now had all afternoon to play and act silly. I decided I had 5 bucks and they had a canteen full of candy. So I walked down the hill and ordered up one of every candy bar they had. The girl put them in a hotdog bun box and I sat down under a tree and started gobbling chocolate as hard as I could go.

When I was about halfway done and no doubt had chocolate from ear to ear a guy walked up and asked me what I was doing and I told him...eatin me some candy bars. He smiled and walked off. I proceeded to eat the rest and had to go back to my bunk to lay down for a while. You know...a box of chocolates and a hot summer day without air-conditioning.....but I was a kid....kids do dumb things. I was queasy but happy.

That night after group supper we all went down to the open-air tabernacle for the required 2 hours of preaching. I was sitting there all drowsy and think bout what it must feel like to touch a boob when the next preacher got up to yada yada us.

I noticed it was the same guy who talked to me under the tree while I was choking down a Milky Way. I learned his name was Pastor Neal Prock and Pastor Prock began telling a story of a young boy who bought a butt-load of candy bars and sat under a tree to eat them.

I sat up straight as Pastor Neal went on with his story about this little boy and too much candy. He went on and on and Jesus got pulled into it and in the end the chocolate covered little boy threw down his candy bars and flew to the ever loving arms of Jesus and his Momma was saved and his Daddy was saved and his crippled brother and 2 cats and lordy....it went on and on forever.

Everyone else was on their feet cheering this miraculous Nestle conversion, but I just sat there wondering what the FK this guy got out of our 9 second conversation that I didn't...and how did I miss all that? Time must have stopped for me and went on and on for Pastor Prock and Jesus. Had I had a little stroke? Did I pass out from too much chocolate? Was I high? Was Pastor Prock high?

Mike Huckabuck and I are about the same age and he grew up in that Baptist world of mine just a couple of hours south of me. You can take the Baptist preacher out of the church and put him in the Governor's seat, but you can't take the Baptist boy out of the man. By now Huck must have a million stories like this that will cover every subject, but it doesn't mean any of them are true.

And that is exactly what is wrong with the Bush administration and Republicans and Bible beaters.....they love stories, they aren't the least bit interested in whether they're true or not. Truth is what they want it to be, their truth has to wrap back around and make a good story that pleases them.

We're winning in Iraq! Sadam has WMD! The state of our union is strong! We'll stand down when yada yada yada. All stories, no truth, just feel good stuff for a decreasing number of people that hides the real quest for money and power and world domination.

We would have never been talked into attacking another country if Bush had spoken the truth. "America is out of oil, OPEC sucks, the Middle East sucks, we've got to start a war to steal all their oil or we'll all be walking by 2015. I must pay back my oil friends that got me this job. Please send your kids to die for oil. Thank you"

Stories are fun around a campfire, they're fun for little kids. But it's not the way to run a government. Trusting in Jesus is a great hobby, it's not the way to run a government. If we don't get back to government based on facts we're done for.

If the war is going so badly we have to make up heartbreaking stories about little kids and 27 solders in a classroom, we need to get out now. If you like good stories, buy a book, rent a movie, get out pencil and paper and make up your own.

But for God's sake....quit electing storytellers, quit living in a dream world, quit watching reality shows and start demanding reality in government. We're going down the drain!

Hey, can anyone help me out? I'm trying to find Huckabee's financial disclosure records since 1998. I've found all the Dem-Gaz articles about his records but I want to see the actual ones. I'm looking for something very specific. Does anyone know if they are online anywhere (I've done 50,000 google ,google news, etc searches and can't find them). I don't want to say too much because I know his minions are watching this blog. Am I going to have to FOI these? Anyone know?

ARK. BLOG: Look under the elections section of the Arkansas secretary of state website. The latest filing was not on-line FRiday, but should be before long.

my email is fallgirlie@gmail.com

if anyone wants to contact me directly.

Thanks!!

Hi, I'm the author of the diary about Huckabee at DKos (and at my own site).

Just curious about Huckabee's story. Not that it's the worst sin in the world to make up stories, but honesty matters, I think, when running for President.

NewsJunkie (or anyone else). If you know anything about this story, email me: diagonalproof@gmail.com

Thanks

Five bucks worth of chocolate bars in 1965 or so, DBI?
Damn -- and I thought I could binge on chocolate!

As I recall..I got a box full of candy and still had lots of money left. I just bought one of every kind they had on the shelf...a small shelf...it was 1965 and there wasn't 700 kinds of candy bars in the world....yet. Wal-mart was in it's infancy then and every word on a Kotex box was in English.

i must say one thing that it seems that there are some furiners starting to show up on this blog relating to the huck and it is great. we have been saying for a long time that the truth will come out and it is starting to spread what a gift grubbing, lying,spendthrift who will ruin the country our former guv is. while you are checking into the stories i hope you look into the religious meeting in florida where he told the group he did not believe in any separation of church and state. that chilled me to the bone. think of falwell and robertson running the government. on top of all that can you imagine what will happen when his wife tries to sell the french on a coat of hanke sidin on versailles?

"Time must have stopped for me and went on and on for Pastor Prock and Jesus. Had I had a little stroke? Did I pass out from too much chocolate? Was I high? Was Pastor Prock high?"
DBI

That was your absolute best one todate! As soon as I quit shaking with laughter I'm fwd it to my no-blogging friends.

I second that motion Lwood. A masterpiece DBI.

YEAH, DBI is in fine form this time, he he.

Funny how those preachers can take everything and spin a whopper out of it. Reminds me of all the other scammers and con people out there. If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bulls**t. :-D

It's a real problem when they become politicians, actually making decisions that will affect us all.

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