Teacher pay
Thanks to Jake for a link to a blogger who has taken up the task to systematically debunk Jay Greene's contention that teachers are overpaid. (Greene is the $160,000-a-year conservative think tanker who's being underwritten with Walton money at the University of Arkansas to attack teachers unions, promote charter schools, etc. He wrote recently on the subject of overpaid, slacker teachers for the Wall Street Journal.)
Which reminds us: We heard recently that the "real" school of education at the University of Arkansas has some faculty openings and at least one has been hard to fill on account of the anti-public-school message being propagated, with the Education Department's silent acquiesccence, over at Greene's shop.




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Thanks Max for helping dispel the myths that Greene himself is guilty of creating.
I want to point out to readers who will take the time to look through this, that it is not an easy site to navigate. The screens will only show one section at a time.
Just above the top of the title and a bit to the right is the following in blue: "Jay Greene's myths: The money myth (1) »" This is where you click everytime to advance to the next page and point.
What you will notice is that Jared Graham does a far better job of documenting his sources than Greene and that he far less prone to making unsubstantiated points than Greene.
To be honest, I was rather shocked that someone could get so far in the educational analysis field with such poor technique and supporting information.
And get paid $160,000!!
He should go into public school teaching. He could get rich that way and not have to worry about such high standards for his research abilities.
Posted by: Jake da Snake
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February 15, 2007 12:37 PM
Thank you, Jake, for shining some more light on the puppet from Waltonstan. Shame there isn't a way, in the information age, to get this in front of the congregation, 'stead of just circulating it among the choir.
My vote for oxymoron of the year is "U of A Department of Education Reform". illegitimi non carborundum
Posted by: pollytick
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February 15, 2007 12:46 PM
Thanks pollytickle!!
The rarer this ivory-towered peckerwood (educanto universitatis ignoramus)becomes, the happier front-line educators of this world will be.
Posted by: Jake da Snake
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February 15, 2007 02:29 PM
A million Thank-You s Jake.
I think your post and link to Jared's site has spawned at least one local TV show in the making as per a few emails ago.
Wheels are turning. You da man!
Posted by: Lwood
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February 15, 2007 03:03 PM
I went back and explored Jared's website until I came up with this page which is the best place to start. It has links to all the specific pages and it gives and excellent summary of each section in one concise paragraph.
If you want to copy and paste, here it is:
http://www.eclecticreview.net/articles/2006blog/01-series-greene-myths/001-Series-Greene-toc.html#mythintro
It's a shame that he has fooled the Democrat Gazette editors into thinking he is knowledgable about teachers when his main points can be so easily ripped to shreds by an ordinary teacher just doing basic research.
Posted by: Jake da Snake
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February 15, 2007 08:58 PM
Jake,
Many, many thanks for uncovering the myth that many retired folks already understand. We educate doctors, lawyers, CEOs, CFOs, newspaper editors, and most still believe we are paid too much. I can tell you, I would have loved to have the settlement that CEOs receive today. Alas, I am stuck with what I contributed to the ARTRS: not much for so much.
If folks want to understand the lack of teachers it is because we, teachers, discourage our children from entering the profession. Guess that is another discussion. I am so proud that neither of my children are teachers.Perhaps I made too much money when they were growing up?
Posted by: Curious
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February 15, 2007 09:11 PM
I taught school for a lot of years, and my salary was low. I got out of the profession and went into social work, and my salary was still low.
My child, who has a doctorate degree, teaches at the college level, and earns only $65,000 per year.
Teachers are way underpaid.
Posted by: BlueRidge
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February 15, 2007 09:58 PM