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intersting Guardian UK article on the same topic.

US commanders admit: we face a Vietnam-style collapse

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and for anyone who may have missed Seymore Hersh's article in the New Yorker.... it is a must read,

http://www.newyorker.com/
printables/fact/070305fa_fact_hersh

"...new commander has warned that military force alone will not be enough to quell the country's violent insurgency."

Multiple choice:

(1)This is Bushco's way of breaking Mission Accomplished
news to Amerika.

(2) It is a conversation between the Realty faction to Darth Cheney.

(3) General David Petraeus will "retire" within 60 days.

(4) Baker-Hamilton report gains traction without impeachment.

(5) Expect "peace negotiations" within six months.

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My choice is number 2. They can't afford the losses in 08 if they continue to stonewall. This is the fig leaf that SAYS we are on the way out while staying as part of peace negotiations and leaving the whole mess to the next president.

I choose 3...he's already gone. And, as always when it comes to Iraq, I hope I'm wrong and monkeyboy wakes up to the reality of Iraq.

Kudos to Petraeus! But way too much integrity/honesty to last with this gang.

What's this? Petraeus speaks the truth? Has he checked to see whose hand is on the other end of his leash? Let the Swiftboating of General Petraeus begin!

If only our chicken hawk leaders had served or even bothered to read a little history, they'd know some things are broken and cannot be fixed. Take Israel and the Palestinians....how many thousands of years have they been killing each other?

Smarter Presidents (read every damn one before #43) knew better than to mess with the Middle East, the land where war was invented. But now President Cheney has inserted the US in the middle of the greatest clusterFK since Vietnam.

How long did they think Generals like Petraeus were going to stand by and watch their beloved troops ground up like hamburger meat?

Next step is to withdraw our troops from the Iraq Civil War and to withdraw the Bush administration from power. Why would we wait to top 58,000 dead US troops before we pull out of the un-fixable land of Iraq?

This horrible nightmare of a war and an administration has gone on long enough! ACTION! ACTION! ACTION!

there are 21 months of the cheney/bush cabal. i really don't think they care enough to get out before they leave office. they may make overtures to slow things down but when the election told them we wanted out and they sped up what does that show? it shows that they don't care what we think but they will show us they are right.

As I expected, people aren't giving Gen. Petraeus a chance on the plan. The man just literally rewrote "the book" on counterinsurgency tactics right before the promotion. Also, we're actually slowly but steadily winning in Ramadi. Just months ago, that looked like the most hopeless part of Iraq. I even personally though it was, but now most of the city is dramatically safer, and a whole new set of strategies that the military used in the town is being used in nearly every other big city now. I'll tell you right now, as a soldier with his boots on the ground in Iraq, if we can quell the violence in Ramadi, anything is possible.