Noisome
Date: 10/2/2008
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Arkansas Times Staff
A state agency makes a $92,000 grant to a church, which uses the money to provide a job for the son of the church pastor, who is also a state senator who votes on the agency's budget, among other activities.
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Do we have a new BB coach yet?
Posted by: Curious
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March 31, 2007 09:30 PM
This 36 second video is slightly dated, but is pretty funny.
Click on my handle, pardner.
Posted by: hugh mann
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March 31, 2007 09:35 PM
Hugh Mann's link is the funny.
Posted by: Rev. Mojo Ryson
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March 31, 2007 09:38 PM
Jibjab is at it again. This time they lampoon the idiotic stories which dominiate that news all in the name of "ratings".
Funny stuff.
Click on my name.
Arky
Posted by: Arky
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March 31, 2007 10:21 PM
i would think we have a coach, at 2.5 mil that should be enough to buy anybody. my wife said she would do it for 1/2. do we think it is getting a little silly with these amounts? eventually people are going to stop paying the ticket prices.
Posted by: zonker
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March 31, 2007 10:32 PM
Thanks for the funny, hugh! I'll get back to you about the beer spill on the keys...the W key seems to stick...
Looks like Fried Calipari is on the menu for the Hogs...he'd be foolish to turn this op down...however...
This is the same fella that rubbed ol' Wally the wrong way...OH NO!
Dump Wally...
Posted by: rosso
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March 31, 2007 11:43 PM
How much more embarrassing can the Razorback program get? Does no one in the UA administration recognize how pathetic this has become?
Posted by: Polecat
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March 31, 2007 11:51 PM
Don't forget...If you missed Arkansas Week featuring Max Brantley's roast of Tim Griffin and accidently Ann Clemmers,
catch it tomorrow, Sunday at 10:30 AM
AETN
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Posted by: Lwood
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April 1, 2007 12:17 AM
And don't forget if you oversleep or have to handle snakes at 10:30 the video link at www.aetn.org works like a charm.
Maybe Max will enlighten us a little. Did he know Ms Clemmer(s) was a wing nut before he showed up that day? If not she obviously knew Max leaned left and was laying for him to spew her "Democrats are all crooks" venom at him.
And what was she yelling as she grabbed at her mic at the end of the show? Without sound it looked like her breasts had suddenly turned into flesh eating gerbils, the way she was clawing at herself. Please tell us. Impeaching minds want to know!
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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April 1, 2007 12:50 AM
DBI, with all due respect, you are way out of line concerning Professor Ann Clemmer. Everyone knows I am a proud liberal and a Democrat. Also, I attend UALR as a student.
It has been my distinct honor to have her as a professor a number of times. She's fair, consistent, and believes what she believes. But she's a common sense Republican....a breed in Arkansas that started to develop a severe shortage with the death of Win Paul Rockefeller and the defeat of Chuck Banks by Jim Holt.
Professor Clemmer is a good person and she deserves much more credit for her intellect. She is passionate about what she believes. Thats not a crime but rather a virtue.
Posted by: Drew Pritt
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April 1, 2007 05:55 AM
" my wife said she would do it for 1/2. "
Well, zonker, all I can say is "hhmmmmm"
Posted by: Cato
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April 1, 2007 08:24 AM
The article on the Perspectives page of the Demozette this morning about global warming is a big fat lie by a big fat liar. Click on my name for my take.
Posted by: Archaeopteryx
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April 1, 2007 09:27 AM
Drew, with all due respect, and based solely on what I saw and heard on the video, Madame Professor may be a good teacher, but she is not a polite debater. Her repeated attempts to interrupt Max showed very bad manners. I can't say her other contributions impressed me very much, either.
But she may very well be, as you say, a good teacher.
Posted by: widj
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April 1, 2007 11:03 AM
Me 'n Mama are off for a six mile hike around Lake Fayetteville. We're old. We're fat. If we don't make it back by dark ya'll tell the rescue crews where to start. ... And call CNN. Maybe we can figure out a way to use the publicity.
Posted by: RickBaber
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April 1, 2007 11:19 AM
Sorry, Hugh Mann; the video would be much funnier if they used the correct Bonanza music. Or Bozo the Clown music
Posted by: Bubba
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April 1, 2007 12:22 PM
>Professor Clemmer is a good person and she deserves much more credit for her intellect. She is passionate about what she believes. Thats not a crime but rather a virtue.<
Pritt
Ok Drew, that gets you a better grade for your next class or perhaps a good referral from Miss Ann. But, too many times she has done knee-jerk wingnut responses, something we've seen way too much of the past few years.
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Posted by: Lwood
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April 1, 2007 12:24 PM
Don't try to reason with the old coots, Drew. To them Professor Clemmer's only real (and absolutely unforgivable) crime is being an uppity woman. Ooooooo, that vile Jezebel interrupted Max -- how dare she! And she was not polite! I'm shocked! Shocked, I say! If they had called her Miz Drysdale or some other other female character from the Beverly Hillbillies, they would actually have been given their own column in the Times. And further, Drew, just be grateful they didn't start on another round of fabricated and boring stories of how they nailed a buxom cheerleader, a leggy majorette, and a very comely ferret on the roof of the Minute Man in Oil Trough in 1967.
Unlike Drew, I neither know nor admire Professor Clemmer. She provided plenty of material for legitimate rebuttal; but the old boys' club chose instead to call her a wingnut, then proceed to verbally attack her appearance. She was called "the old gal" in spite of the fact that she was clearly the youngest person on the panel. Her breasts have now been compared to gerbils.
And you really need to stop exaggerating, guys. I read the comments on the open line before seeing Arkansas Week and expected way more fireworks. From what you said, I thought at the very least she had ripped off her microphone, pulled a gun out of her bra, a knife out of her shoe, broken a longneck on the nearest camera, jumped up on the table, and challenged Max to hand-to-hand combat. I was, of course, disappointed in what really happened (much like your respective brides on your respective wedding nights).
This blog is the only daily source of Arkansas news that I have found that is not filtered through the official publication of the Arkansas republican party, also known as the statewide newspaper, or the airheads on the local television stations, who continually provide absolutely incontrovertible evidence that hairspray does cause brain damage. And I understand that every silver lining has a cloud; the one here is having to read degrading, derogatory and dehumanizing comments about any woman who has the temerity to speak out or, as in the case of Miss Arkansas USA and the woman standing next to her, merely to exist.
Of course you have the right to make these comments; but you are bigots just the same as members of the Family Council (or whatever the gay-bashing group calls itself) or the KKK -- you've just selected a different group to demean. How about being big enough to own up to it?
Posted by: Vegan4Hillary
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April 1, 2007 03:54 PM
Getting bored killing all those carrots Vegan?
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Posted by: Lwood
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April 1, 2007 04:25 PM
It's OK Vegan, don't hold back...go ahead and express yourself.....pixels are free and I use them by the ton.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess you've either just returned from Dinah Week out in Palm Springs or your ex is late on the child support payments and was a really sorry SOB during your short marriage to boot. I fully admit that women are the superior sex and lots of men are not worth shooting. In my next life I will be a lipstick lesbian, I promise.
However, I am not guilty of female bashing. I bash a few now and then because they're horrible human beings who just happen to be women. If you'll reread my post the only demeaning thing I said about Ms Clemmer was calling her a wingnut. I don't know her, but the fact that she suddenly turned ugly and started hollering at Max about Democrats stealing Arkansas elections told me about all I need to know about her politics.
If you'll review the video you'll see her throwing some kind of fit with her microphone. Her clawing was in the general area of her breasts which led me to comment on them.
In truth, I associate gerbils with California gay men, not women's body parts. In no way was I implying Ms Clemmer had less than perfect breasts, healthy, vital, strong and every bit American.
Not that it's important but no one on the panel represented the ideal in American beauty or youth. Especially when it comes to good ideas, looks and youth are not important. Like myself, our beloved Jim Lendall is no Arrow shirt man, yet he may very well be the smartest man in the state.
I agree, the promised fireworks turned out to be a fizzle. But I think that reflects how boring Arkansas Week's usual bill of fare is. This exchange between Max and Ms Clemmer must qualify for big excitement on a show heavily populated with dull, gray, policy wonks.
In conclusion, I hope Vegan will stick with us and in time she'll figure out whose a hater and whose not. I think the women who are regulars on this blog will say most of us men folk are lunkheads, but usually respectful and in no way view women as 2nd class citizens....unlike the Arkansas Legislature.
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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April 1, 2007 04:52 PM
TOP TEN COURSES OFFERED BY PAT ROBERTSON'S LAW SCHOOL
By Don Davis
HOLY HABEAS CORPUS! Yes, it's true, Virginia, Pat Robertson actually founded a law school, in Virginia, called Regent University.
Posted by: Lwood
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April 1, 2007 06:59 PM
LWood, even more disturbing about Regent is that 137 Federal Attorney appointed by the Bush-Cheney Administration are from this school. Oddly enough 75% of the U.S. Attorney replacements either who were put in or suggested were the alumni.
What is there about Regent University not being revealed.
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As far as Clemmergate goes, lets be clear here, because anyone who knows me will know this to be truth. I am defending Professor Clemmer because I know the person and that person is good. I am not doing it to get a good grade nor is she in a position to do so. Furthermore any grades I have gotten, I earned on my own merit, so to suggest otherwise is bullsh*t!
Finally, I have on this blog defended Jason Willett, Pat Lynch, Mike Beebe, Woody Anderson, Martha Shoffner, Dustin McDaniel, Nancy Pelosi, Mike Hathorn, Tim Wooldridge, Bill Clinton, Wes Clark, Gene Yarbrough, and Kevin Smith to name a few. Their ideologies divurge most definitely.
When someone is right, I will defend them, and I will skewer you when you are wrong. The attacks on Professor Clemmer were out of line and sexist.
Had the person been the vaunted David Sanders, or Warwick Sabin, or Pat Lynch, or a dozen male celebrities, not a peep of angst would have been expressed.
Posted by: Drew Pritt
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April 1, 2007 07:37 PM
"...Had the person been the vaunted David Sanders, or Warwick Sabin, or Pat Lynch, or a dozen male celebrities, not a peep of angst would have been expressed."
Boy do I disagree. And I am a raging feminist. But there are enough instances of sexism...of women getting treated differently than their male counterparts, without looking for it where it ain't. If anything, this thread demonstrates how we tend to dislike the general politics of wingnuts. And this reality has been demonstrated over and over on the discussions about various male politicians. The only remotely sexist statement I could find was dbi's boobs/gerbils comment. But that's only if you think any comment about boobs is somehow inherently sexist and only if you've not read most of his stuff...and I don't and I have. On the other hand (and after reading the comments) I expected more fireworks. I was disappointed 'cause I was expecting more fur to fly (it was rather tepid). But criticisms of Clemmer's failings came because she was ill prepared to counter Max's factual statements about the voter-fraud stuff. And as a academician she should know just how silly/non-productive it is to argue that the absence of facts is basically irrelevant to the truth of something...as she did with Max. Man or woman she was wrong.
Posted by: zelda
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April 1, 2007 10:28 PM
Sigh. Ahimsa is easier to practice some days than others.
DBI, I was shocked that you left so many cliches unused in your response. Let's see. I'm a lesbian, I'm a man-hater, I'm a man-hating lesbian, probably because I been done wrong by some bad man. Sorry to disappoint. Hetero. Happily married. No children or exes. Let's go ahead and get to the unused ones just to save you some time. That time of the month, menopausal, just too emotional, no sense of humor, trying to make everyone be politically correct, making a mountain out of a molehill (oh, crap, that'll probably start another round of breast comments). NOOOOOOO.
Of all your arguments, my favorite was when you said your behavior was okay because it wasn't as bad as the Arkansas Legislature's. I'll just let that stand out there on its own merit, twisting slowly in the wind.
You all seem to be beside yourselves that Clemmer raised her voice to Max. I think he will somehow survive. But just in case he developed a bad case of the vapors and had to take to his bed for a week, now that the Arkansas State Police aren't all having to guard Huckabee, maybe they can protect Max from ever having another woman shake her finger at or raise her voice to him. Oh, the humanity.
And surely no one is going to seriously deny that Arkansas Democrats have stolen elections. Why, in my county, it's a time-honored tradition. They always do it the old-fashioned way, though, by voting dead people, not by rigging voting machines. Local republicans have not stolen as many only because they have not had as many opportunities.
So back to the bigotry question. Zelda says no. I still say yes. (DBI says "Yea. Catfight." ) Zelda, if you have read the original posts on the first open line, then apparently raging feminism is in the eye of the beholder.
These guys would never dare make derogatory comments about the physical appearance of a person of color; neither would they trot out old tired cliches about their capabilities or habits. There are two reasons they would not: first, they would clearly recognize such behavior to constitute bigotry and would not do it because it is wrong; second, it is just not socially acceptable anymore to be so ignorant. Well, maybe there's a third -- people of color no longer are willing to quietly stand by and take such crap. They would rise up and verbally smite such conduct in a most appropriate manner.
These same people who would not dare verbally bash people of color, do not hesitate, however, to engage in such behavior regarding women. Surely no one is seriously denying that this too is bigotry. They go ahead and do it because they can -- the demeaning of women is perfectly acceptable in Arkansas, even among so-called liberals. Apparently what's unacceptable is complaining about it. But, Drew, you give me hope for the next generation.
Posted by: Vegan4Hillary
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April 1, 2007 11:48 PM
"You all seem to be beside yourselves that Clemmer raised her voice to Max. "
Ahisma
"But criticisms of Clemmer's failings came because she was ill prepared to counter Max's factual statements about the voter-fraud stuff. And as a academician she should know just how silly/non-productive it is to argue that the absence of facts is basically irrelevant to the truth of something...as she did with Max. Man or woman she was wrong"
zelda
Welcome to reality community.
Posted by: Lwood
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April 2, 2007 12:35 AM
Vegan4Hillary,
Thanks for being a new character in my own virtual libertarian-socialist-poliitically correct *non-hypocritical* fantasy land.
If there had been blogs when I was up in Fayetteville in the '80s, I wouldn't have gone to so many bars. With the posting feature I can say things to people in my fantasy land and not get a pool cue across my back.
I am starting to get a little on the geezerly side and I *was* critical of Ms. Clemmer on that first thread. So maybe I'm among those you are scolding and maybe I'm not. I confess, I was being anti-Conservative. It had nothing to do with her being female.
And I have lots of friends who are females.
So carry on. Fight your fight. As our friend DBI pointed out, the pixels are free for the taking.
End sexism now, I always say.
Posted by: hugh mann
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April 2, 2007 12:58 AM
Vegan4Hillary...I went back and reread the original comments about Clemmers and I still don't see the blatant sexism you referenced. Now maybe my comprehension skills aren't what they use to be, but the closest I could get to a 'derogatory comment about her physical appearance' was this: "I thought the old gal was gonna bugaloo right off the studio set during the credits." And if that's the closest to sexual derision that women ever get...I'll be tickled pink. (But it is late, or early, so if I missed some other remark about her physical appearance please enlighten me.) And I still don't see how the criticisms about her comments were sexist...'tired cliches about [her] capabilities or habits'...rather than political. The wingnut stuff seems to be non-gender specific; and her argument was weak regardless of the hormones behind them. In other words, a man speaking thusly would've got slammed, too.
Now onto (or back) to dbi's stuff...It's true that his rendition of why Vegan4Hillary must've been unhappy about the Clemmer's criticisms was screamingly sexist. (Hell dbi, she's right...all you needed was a 'she must've been on the rag' comment.) But I'm partial/biased towards dbi's prose; and I've had the luxury of assessing the totality of his stuff...he doesn't have a real sexist bone in his hyperbolic body. At least, in my opinion. (He's all sexist fluff/show but a flaming woman lover underneath it all.) I do, however, think his jab at the legislature was just that...and not meant as a justification for anything he said.
You are right, vegan4hillary, that people, in general, tend to be much more sensitive to criticisms of minorities than they are of the usually subtle sexist attitudes about women that exist in our culture. They accept comments about women they would never accept about blacks/Hispanics. My best guess is that sexism can be much more insidious, less blatant and has fewer vocal cheerleaders.
Posted by: zelda
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April 2, 2007 05:06 AM
--Don't try to reason with the old coots....
--If they had called her Miz Drysdale or some other other female character from the Beverly Hillbillies, they would actually have been given their own column in the Times....
--another round of fabricated and boring stories....
--I was, of course, disappointed in what really happened (much like your respective brides on your respective wedding nights).
--but you are bigots....
by: Vegan4Hillary
WOW!!! you left out needing Enzyte, The original once-daily tablet for Natural Male Enhancement.
Posted by: bejeeus
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April 2, 2007 07:35 AM
Well....I'm enjoying this and I'll be sorry to see this thread die. Vegan makes a few good points and of course...I'm male...the first thing that came to mind was pulling out the PMS card. But as you see....I steadied myself and passed it by.
If you'll look back...all I asked was did Ms Clemmer have a pre-show grudge against Max? Did Max know her political bent before the show started and did he expect her to go on the attack? I also wanted to know what she was hollering after the sound was cut off. That's all I asked.
If Ms Clemmer and I were single and I ran into her at the old Checkmate Club in LR. I might coyly sit around rolling my eyes in hopes she'd offer to buy me a drink. I've had the good fortune to sleep with many women not near as attractive as Ms Clemmer. Except for her style of glasses and her politics...I'd waste a blue pill on her if I was lucky enough to garner her attention and affection.
Drew is dead wrong about one thing. I don't think anyone has ever made a favorable comment about David Sanders on this blog. We've picked on his strange hair, his odd clothes and everything that's ever come out of his purty mouth. Where were you Drew?
I will admit that I don't think I've commented on the looks of anyone of color on this blog. Sadly black folks aren't much discussed because they're pretty invisible in Arkansas politics. A black Republican ran for treasurer or something last time and not even the Republicans on this blog knew who he was or what he looked like.
So if he had rotten teeth or a big wart on his nose....how would we know? Oh...and another thing....most women aren't 6 ft 6 an d 300 lbs, so it's much safer to talk ugly about a woman...though it's the last thing on my list of things to do.
Not that you need me telling you anything, but I can tell Vegan is a bright person and lord knows we need more of them on this blog. Hopefully we can make nice and pull together to elect Hillary Clinton, cause with Hill ya get Bill and we need all the help we can get to restore all the stuff Bush & Co., have ruined the last 7 miserable years.
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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April 2, 2007 01:49 PM
DBI - Hmmm...comments were made regarding the looks of Barack Obama, definitely someone of color. Also, I believe theres been the occasional reference to Rev. Al Sharpton's doo, also someone of color. Condi Rice, her young feminine wiles, were debated in how she has been a Bushnik on here, and she's someone of color. Locally, we talked about Bill Walker and Jesse Mason and how they appeared from time to time. Definitely men of color as well as distinction. But why the liberal guilt to even point that out?
As for the guy for State Treasurer, his name is Chris Morris. He ran a sleazy campaign, unfairly attacked Martha Shoffner, and proved himself incompetent as both a campaigner and a fired appointee of Mike Huckabee's!
Posted by: Drew Pritt
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April 2, 2007 05:21 PM
Damn Drew, you had to reach down deep in your draws to pull those turds out.
Posted by: bejeeus
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April 2, 2007 06:31 PM
Ahhh, the Checkmate! Such good times did I have there in my youth! And scary ones, too. Almost got my ass kicked outside the place one splendid summer night.
Posted by: durangokid
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April 2, 2007 07:18 PM