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>>There had been "no sex," Ross quoted Tobias as saying, and that recently he has used another service, "with Central American gals," for massages.<<

Depends what the meaning of sex is.

(ok there's an open door)
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and when they've finished this set of selective coverage and coverups (pardon the pun) the word on the street in D.C. is that the next step will revisit the Mark Foley day's of last September with a renewed focus on the 'Velvet Mafia' (accomplishing the seemingly impossible task of making the party of 'family values' look even more hypocritical than it does now)

gosh, i feel old. i remember when being called "Pink" meant you were a commie sympathizer.

plus, supposedly in this weekend's doc dump is an email incriminating ms. goodling. (perhaps Monica is going down afterall?) sorry..couldn't help myself...

name/link

please pardon the multiple posts but...

given the history of the media's experience with difficult to explain scandals versus SEX, does anyone else besides me suspect the timing of madame's address book?

I feel equal happiness and justification in the exposure of a Democratic hypocrite as I do a Republican. We're all in this together and there shouldn't be special rules for any one group or person.

I am really more interested in stopping the blowing up of people in Iraq than I am in stopping whoever is getting a blowjob in DC.

Unless you do it in my bed, I don't really give a damn what adults do. But since it appears every long bony finger that was pointing at Bill Clinton was hiding their own sex scandals, I'm really pissed at hypocritical behavior. Let the names of the guilty fall from the sky like rain.

I must say this will be fun to watch...

A reg'lar D.C. peep show...

Somehow this story conjures up my high school-freshman days when I read YOUNG GOODMAN BROWN, by
Hawthorne. The Bush gov is so Goody this, Goody that, and I expect DBI to expose huge midnite governement sex orgies on his blog any day now. But, oops... these are the days of free markets and hyper-inflated everything like a $275 dollar massage when a bonafide, skilled massage therapist can be found for $75-$120 a session maybe just a little more in K Street City.

Tobias you're just one more raindrop in the barrel of Bushjokeland, once called our government.
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Another perfect example of this country's continuing and blatant sexist attitude. Over and over again it's the women who're arrested/prosecuted when sex is traded for money. It's just more of men blaming women for their innocent little penises. Stone the whores, burn the witches and arrest the prostitutes because men are just poor victims of our lustful wily ways. Good grief...if women were as powerful as some men pretend we are...well, things would be slightly different!

It's long past time for law enforcement to get over its blatantly sexist attitude regarding sex workers and either pursue everyone equally or no one (which is my preference).

zelda nailed it.

Aw, zelda, you are sounding like Sharpton and Jackson now. "Johns" get arrested all the time and their pictures, names and addys are in the paper.

Oh Cato...a few arrested 'johns' hardly equality makes. And the subject of this thread, the DC madam, is a good example of just how skewed our system still is. All legal guns were pointed at the madam with nary a stray bullet for her customers.

Sure various police departments use police decoys to lure/arrest 'johns.' And it has gotten better; but we're a long, long way from equal justice for the sinners. So there's still plenty of room for griping and fighting.

The Sharpton comparison, however, sure is a low blow.

For those who don't truly appreciate the irony of the situation...here is an excerpt from an interview Randall Tobias did two years ago with the PBS program "Frontline" when he was the Bush Administration's global AIDS coordinator:

What about the guidelines on sex workers?

"The Congress I think very appropriately has put into the legislation that created this program that organizations, in order to receive money, need to have a policy opposed to prostitution and sex trafficking. I don't think it's too difficult for people to be opposed to prostitution and sex trafficking, which are in fact two contributing causes to the spread of HIV/AIDS. I think when organizations initially became aware of that requirement, some organizations were concerned about what the implications of that might be, but we implemented that in the first year with non-U.S. organizations. We're now implementing that requirement with U.S. organizations. And so far, I really know of no problems that we've had on the ground."

But with regard to prostitutes and sex workers in developing countries, is it necessary to work with them? Do you try to get them to change behavior? And if they don't, then what?

"First of all, very recently I was in Haiti in a program where we are working with prostitutes, teaching them skills that will give them the economic leverage to get out of prostituting. The particular program that I visited, young women were being taught the skills of being beauticians, of doing cosmetic work and hair work and that kind of thing. Now, none of these young women were saying, "I don't want to work with this non-governmental organization because they have a policy opposing prostitution." Quite the contrary. These young women were people who wanted to get out of prostitution. So there's nothing about our policy of requiring organizations to oppose prostitution and sex trafficking that in any way gets in our way of working with people who have been traced, or people who are in prostitution, trying to get them out of it. ."

But is there a moral quotient, a moral factor in your prevention work?

"There's a certain moral aspect to it, but the principal focus of what we're doing here is to carry out the prevention program that is at the heart of this program, which is abstinence, be faithful, and the correct and consistent use of condoms, driven by the fact that from a public health perspective, those are the components that really make the most sense."

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LOL. "I don't think it's too difficult for people to be opposed to prostitution and sex trafficking." Heh. Indeed.

Aw, Zelda, dear friend, I was just yanking your chain.

"All legal guns were pointed at the madam with nary a stray bullet for her customers."

I thought this Tobias guy has resigned his job. What job has the madam resigned?

zelda it sounds like the lectures i get here in my house and i have learned to say yes dear. i agree wholeheartedly. you are right. if she is in trouble then every name in the book that can be testified against should be in trouble too. actually i am in favor of legalized prostitution along with a few other things. whatever a gal wants to do is fine with me. there are very few sins i am against as long as they don't hurt somebody else.

So Tobias an Eli Lilly Exec now Condi Aid was the first name/shoe to drop.
copy and paste for photo of Tobias with Laura Bush.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/popup
?id=3095454&contentIndex=1&page=9

Second shoe..The guy who invented the term "shock and awe" in 1996 to describe asymetric warfare.

"Aw, Zelda, dear friend, I was just yanking your chain."

One day I'm gonna figure out how to make 'yanking my chain' not quite so entertaining. Hubby, too, seems to think stirring me up into a feminist frenzy is much more fun than the calm alternative.

It's the legal inequality I'm referring to, Cato. Tobias may have lost his job; but it was the madam whom police went after.

Wise man zonker...and a very wise wife! Prostitution should absolutely be legalized!

$10 bucks says Marion Berry's phone number is on that list

Of course, it is "selective" coverage. This is often pointed out as with this blog site:

"Years ago, Christopher Hitchens wrote that he went into journalism because he didn't want to have to rely on the media to get the news. I've felt that way in conversations with an unspecified number of real journalists for an unspecified number of real Emm Ess Emm(TMJustin Slotman) organs recently about this business of the President's wife being secretly separated from him because, among other things, he is drinking again. Now the marriage business is merely titillating. I have no idea if President Bush and Secretary of State Rice are really sleeping together or not. I'd like to know because I'm a writer, and writers are incurable gossips.

But if the man who has the authority to launch nuclear weapons all on his say-so is an alcoholic who has gone back on the sauce because of the pressure of his job, that seems to me to be fucking news! The public has the right to know that. And from what I can tell this seems to be the open secret among journalists that some people claimed Valerie Plame's real job was, something "everybody knows" but nobody is saying. A president who has claimed absolute power based on a couple of stray clauses in the Constitution and a couple of dodgy recent laws is an addict who has fallen back into his habit.
That seems important. "