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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our Mayor is fighting colon cancer as I type. Wonder if George and Laura are suffering more than him?

How about those parents and teachers and students at Virginia Tech? No doubt the recent killings are felt harder by those compassionate Bushes.

And just how will dear Laura feel when her husband is pulled from the White House kicking and screaming and presented to a war crimes tribunal? Will her heart ache for The Decider when he's behind bars or maybe facing a firing squad?

It will be my turn to suffer more than the Bushes when they both get what they deserve. What a great 4th of July it would be with Bush-Cheney-Rove in prison, our troops heading home from Iraq and our country restored back to the way it was on January 19th, 2001.

Suffers from what? Abuse of nerve pills? Right Mrs First Lady, go tell it to the Tillman family and thousands more American families and millions of innocent Iraqis.

Maybe she means they are suffering from a new congress...
like this little excerpt from the Iraq supplemental bill...

Here's the binding language in the Conference Committee bill. Note the word "shall."

Section 1904 (Page 77 of 251)

b) If the President fails to make any of the determinations specified in subsection (a), the Secretary of Defense shall commence the redeployment of the Armed
Forces from Iraq no later than July 1, 2007, with a goal of completing such redeployment within 180 days.

c) If the President makes the determinations specified in subsection (a), the Secretary of Defense shall commence the redeployment of the Armed Forces from Iraq not later than October 1, 2007, with a goal of completing such redeployment within 180 days.

Now that is what I wanted to see from real Democrats and Republicans alike.

Actually, the First Lady's statement ""No one suffers more than their president and I do." is an improvement for her. After driving at high speed, running stop sign and plowing into the car driven by a high school aquaintence and killing the young woman driver, Laura said "somethings permanently change your outlook on life."

I don't even know how to formulate a proper response to what she said. The stupidity of her verbal diarrhea is appalling. It is unbelievable that she fancies herself so much, that she felt it necessary to "prove" to the public that she and her husband belong to some sort of exclusive club which "suffers" more than every one else. Given the ghastly atrocities of the Iraq war (and the other countless failures precipitated by her husband), how she even mustered the nerve to draw a comparison between her personal suffering, and that of the remainder of the world, is not only delusional, but insanely arrogant. No wonder she married George Bush.

She would have been better off to begin the interview by shoving her foot in her mouth.

Mr. and Mrs. Bubble live in a fantasyland where they are "briefed" with cropped news footage and edited sound bites all the while being coached by Herr Karl and Attack Dog Cheney on GOP talking points...

They are in bed before 9:00 and not to be disturbed unless Terri Schiavo's diagnosis is changed from the Senate floor...

I heard an Army officer on the news talking about the lack of good officer retension of combat vets who have served multiple tours in Iraq...

Tell me, Bubble and enablers (73 especially)...are these young officers "unpatriotic" or "giving comfort to the enemies" by not returning to that hornets nest?

Here's a good response for Laura's hubby. MSNBC is conducting an impeachment poll.
Blue name

But, but, but......the president has just recently received his Purple Heart. Are you people in the dark as to how this man has suffered through it all?

lord lwood only 87% think there should be impeachment. there must be a wee liberal bias to that one. i am laughing so hard i can barely type. the public just may take hold of this impeachment of cheney more than congress thinks it will.
dbi i saw ray baker last week at a banquet on saturday night where he made one of his presentations and he did look bad. regardless of anything, he was the best single subject teacher i ever had. he would really fire a kid up about history and he sure has taught a hell of a lot of kids. i hope he gets better.
now for laura's pain threshold. i am sorry she has to put up with all the worry that this was has caused her. she may be concerned that her daughters might get drunk one night and enlist, especially jenna. that might be the real problem.

Lwood, wow 426,000 people have participated in that poll with over 87 percent voting for impeachment!

Eureka ,
MSNBC is not a lib site. In fact it's usually touched with strong hints of Rwing.

IMPEACHMENT POLL is moving fast.
When I voted at 2:30 pm there were 47,000 votes cast.

You know, I used to think a lot of her. After all, love can make people do odd things. But that statement is more her mother-in-law's style and if she's "gone to the dark side", well, no more. Doubt she'll lose any sleep over losing my respect, but after that statement, I doubt she loses sleep over much.

"You know, I used to think a lot of her."

Well, EY, if you can do that with a Stepford Wife, more power to you.

"The other Iraqi Wall"

Cartoon on Cato

So she says she suffers. She's pretending that she has some kind of conscience.

Let all the Imperial Family Bushes auction off EVERY last stock certificate, acre of land, and gold tooth. Let ALL proceeds going to all those who have suffered.

Let all the Bush Brothers ante up their hidden S&L profits, repay every penny of their no-bid contracts for their cronies.

Let them go out and haul in their Cheney-Halliburton pals to repay the pocket stuffings and bank accounts.

Let the Bushies crawl for a lifetime on all fours, in rags, as penitents, to demonstrate how they suffer.

A person with a conscience would "do it for our kids and grandkids". But kids don't vote. Kids don't run corporations. Bush Imperialistas don't care about little people.

The Imperial Bush First Lady's pretense of remorse is fake. "No one suffers more than their president and I do."

It's an evil, emotionless statement .... straight from a bitter heart.

May God bless all the real people who have suffered from the cruelty of his bitter family.

I bet they suffer everytime someone brings up the obvious, no weapons of mass destruction, no connection to 9-11, etc, etc, etc.

But they suffer since everyone, or at least everyone but the 30%ers, knows they have committed the biggest blunder in US history.

if you want to really get pissed click on my name. it is a speech rahm emmanuel gave today on the cronnyism in the bush crime family. a 24 year old was to restart the stock market, and it went on from there. it is a must read.

sorry i hit preview

Poor Laura. Poor Duhbyuh.
I wish all ya'll hippies would just get off their backs. Can't you see they're suffering?

87% for impeachment sounds right. The newest poll shows only 22% believe this country is going in the right direction.

But poor, poor, Laura and King George suffer more than anyone else over the situation in Iraq? They have two children, both still alive. They have NO IDEA what suffering is.
What brazen, heartless arrogance.

I really must have lost it between here and there. I find myself wanting to defend Miz Laura. I keep trying to think what deep and sympathetic thought she was trying to express when she said no one has suffered more than she and the prez. I just can't come up with anything that makes sense. Hmm, maybe that's the problem. Nothing this administration does makes sense anymore and I'm not sure it ever did.
I've joined the 87%. But please, with a proviso -- Cheney convicted first. The only thing I see that could be worse than having our fool president in power is having the fool veep enthroned.
For the penalty phase, may I suggest exile to one of those tiny south sea islands that will be inundated if global warming is upon us. With a naval blockade offshore, no shelter except that which they can fashion themselves, plenty of Meals Ready to Eat that have been ripening in 120-plus degree trailers in Louisiana and Mississippi and nothing to do but watch the water rise . . . well, I suppose the rest of us will suffer more than the exiles, right?

I'm certainly not a Bush supporter and don't claim to be a Repug, but I am getting to the point I don't get these liberal attacks against the Bush family.

Prime Example:Last week, Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid came out with a bold, misguided statement. "The war is lost," he said, showing a lack of understanding of the fact that we won by taking out Saddam Hussein in the first phase of this war.

Imagine how different our nation would have been if, when the troops were having a tough time at Valley Forge, George Washington just said, "Well, we've lost." That is not the American way.

I'm afraid there are some Democrats who can't get the word victory or success out of their mouths. They see loss behind every corner, and instead of looking for our successes and our achievements, they are always looking for our losses and trying to trash the Repugs. It certain brings one's credibitly into question.

I just don't get it and quite franly am outraged. I am a veteran and am very offented that - that the Senate Majority Leader would say something so dispiriting to our troops and provide fodder for propaganda and rallying cries for the jihadists?

And some of you fine folks buy into crap lilke this! I guess some people will say just about anything to try to win the Whitehouse

Mrs. Bush responded, "No one suffers more than their president and I do."
She suffers more than the parents?
Compare this to Abraham Lincoln: "I feel how weak and fruitless must be any words of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming..."

Sorry, Catfish Eater.

I don't understand why you are describing logical alternative viewpoints as "liberal attacks".

As a veteran, you fought to preserve our right to holding and expressing an opinion.

The Bushies and the Limbaugh-Hannity-Beck-Fox screech-leaders have spouted their Big Lie far too long.

What those scoundrels have done is tamp down the idea of alternative points of view by yelling that "LIBERAL is a dirty word".

Liberal means "free", as in free speech. It means "free" as defined by the Bill of Rights. But you already know that, because you fought to preserve those freedoms.

The scoundrels you're following claim to represent Patriotism. They are annihilating it.

Your scoundrels claim to represent God and Christ. They are shaming the virtues of Christianity.

They claim to know all about "Truth" -- but why must they lie so often about so much?

Yes, the Senate Majority Leader provided his opinion. This is still a free country. People are free to agree or to disagree with any opinion.

Catfish Eater, I think you're way off base to call it "crap".

This topic is not all about "winning the White House". It's far more important than that.

I'm sorry to hear that you regard it as "crap".

Maybe, Catfish, you can do what no one else, including the POTUS, has done, and that's tell us when we can leave the country that we invaded for no reason.
What is your defination of success and/or victory in Iraq?
This dialogue is not "crap," as Spiro points out, but is a genuine effort to save lives and get this country back on the right track.

To compare the war in Iraq to the war for American Independence is to insult the founding fathers.

But you're a troll, so you know all about insulting.

Mr. Catfish, with all due respect the war is lost. Why Vietnam it? Why must we kill 55,000 more of our good men and women before a smarter President comes along and stops the madness?

US Troops cannot fight 3 sides, at least 3 sides throwing a civil war. They hate each other and they hate us. The surge has produced an equal increase of dead US soldiers. If tiny parts of Baghdad are 2% safer, the price is too high to pay.

We cannot win this war short of using nuclear weapons. Do you want to kill everyone in Iraq? Do we want to open that box of angry hornets?

And if we could win, WHAT would we win? I'd rather ride a bike than steal Iraq's oil. There is nothing else to win. The people of Iraq do not want to be Americans or American like.

If we lose this war, WHAT do we lose? Only a fool thinks if we win in Iraq all terrorists will pack up and go home. If anything it will swell their ranks and make them more determined to kill each and everyone of us.

If we invaded Iraq to clear out WMDs, we've won....cause there weren't no WMDs. If we invaded to remove Sadam, we've won....he's dead...and wasn't it a messy death?

If there is a reason to stay in Iraq then it must be to make sure the 126,000 private contractors get a fat paycheck. The soldier getting his unarmored HumVee gassed up makes $25,000 a year to risk his life. The Halliburton man filling his tank makes $80,000 dollars a year.

No wonder the Dow set a new record at the close of the day. Wall street loves the War for Oil. The rich are making money faster than ever before. But it's not their kids dying in Iraq.

We are fighting people we've yet to properly identify after 4 years. We're fighting for reasons unknown to the average American. We will win nothing if we were to win this un-winnable war. We're spending 10 BILLION a month to make a lot of rich Republicans richer and make a lot of our kids deader.

Please turn off Fox News. They're liars. They're bad Americans. They are loyal Bushies not to be believed. Help us remove the entire Bush administration and start the healing of our country and our world. Little Sadam Bush must go!

I find it funny, that Laura Bush makes a comment and you all spin it to look like she intentionally said something to "offend" people.

Are you people so narrow minded that you think the first lady would go out and offend someone? Your opinion seems to be more based on your liberal hatred of the other party than based on facts.

As far a what is winning vs. what is loosing, there is a big difference from having an opinion about us being there vs. the Senate Majority Leader coming out and publically declaring that "we lost."

Big, big difference.

Hey I'm not for our troops to be over there one more day, but you folks seem to forget the terms of surrender from the 1st Gulf War. Didn't Saddam Hussein surrender and agree with let the weapons inspectors come in, stop his contact with the terrorist groups, and stop the other human things that he was doing to his own people. Hey I was there, and I remember this. I guess you all forgot about that issue.

Although there are a few thug groups over the blowing themselves up, the typical Iraqi citizen is much better off than they were BEFORE the US invaded....

...and Crazy Horse, you are showing your true colors...i.e., someone with a different opinion that yours and you have to start name calling. Loosers like you always resort to name calling when they can't think of anything else to say.

"Imagine how different our nation would have been if, when the troops were having a tough time at Valley Forge, George Washington just said, "Well, we've lost."

Mr. Catfish, you forget Washington had the guerillas on his side fighting the invaders. He wasn't the invader like this George is.

Man, I'm never eating catfish again...

"This dialogue is not "crap," as Spiro points out, but is a genuine effort to save lives and get this country back on the right track."

Oh excuse me...I didn't realize that some of these folks had the power to "save lives" by trashing the troops, the Presidency, and criminalizing politics. I'm sure these insulting posts will "get the country right back on track." I didn't realize I was in such powerful company!

You make a good point Cato...I respect your opnion, but let me use another example...we lost 80,000 in one day invading Normandy Beach. I guess it is a good thing that our Senators and Congressman didn't pull out of Europe since that WWII was such a failure!

if i seem to remember there wasn't a civil war with a war against another country,us, going on at the same time. this wasn't happening before we invaded iraq. saddam was a bad man but he had no nukes and the inspectors were looking where they wanted. what was the problem?

My good friend Catfish, in your endeavor to make a point you are throwing out numbers without checking them. I'm and old WW II history enthusisast (if I may use that term) and your "we lost 80,000 in one day invading Normandy Beach" is a tad over the mark. There were only 73,000 American troops that went ashore that first day and the number killed was around 6,000. In fact, the total number of Allied troops killed on D-Day was around 10,000, if memory serves me well.

In the Civil War battle at Antietam, there were more Americans killed in the first 6 hours on the soil of Maryland than killed on D-Day

Iwo Jima was the great killing field and yes, our Congressmen and Senators did demand an accounting from the American military as to why that little island was worth the cost of approximately 6,000 American lives.

"I'm certainly not a Bush supporter and don't claim to be a Repug, but I am getting to the point I don't get these liberal attacks against the Bush family."

"Oh excuse me...I didn't realize that some of these folks had the power to "save lives" by trashing the troops, the Presidency, and criminalizing politics."

"You make a good point Cato...I respect your opnion, but let me use another example...we lost 80,000 in one day invading Normandy Beach. I guess it is a good thing that our Senators and Congressman didn't pull out of Europe since that WWII was such a failure!"

Do de do do do de do doo (Twilight Zone music) These words have been throw at us before. I know this voice with the new name of Catfish. I think old Anonymous is hiding behind a new name.

He has always brought in WWII and using millions of dead to somehow excuse Bush for killing 650,000 Iraqis. "liberal attacks" key word here....only Republicans use that term. Taking up for Mrs. Laura Capone.....surely is a Repug thing to do......yeah...we got us a ringer here.

You are correct Cato. I intended to type 8,000, not 80,000. I inadvertenly added an extra 0. I should have checked my number before I hit post. I am glad that this website has folks like you who have all this trival information handy/memorized.

As far as the comments regarding no WMD, yes that is true that no Weapsons of Mass Destruction were located, but there is solid evidence the Saddam was cohorting with Terrorist organizations, attempting to obtain Uranium and other Chemicals, was still testing chemicals on his people, and even throwing one or two soccer players to his son's lions when they cost Iraq a Soccer Game.

Had Saddam allowed the UN Weapons inspectors actually go in and inspect rather than REPEATEDLY kicking them out of the country, better information would have been handy when the President, Congress (Democrat and Repulican) voted to invade. I think some folks forget that. The President, Congress, and UN had the same information from a number of sources, not just US intellegence, but it was consistent across the board, that Saddam likely had WMD and was planning on cohorting with the terroris to use them againt Europe, the USA, and anyone else who stood in his way. Everone acted on the best information we had at the time. Plus, even if the UN would have determined he didn't have WMD anyway, we would likely have gone in anyway based on the state of Iraq and the Middle East. Saddam was too close to the terrorist, harboring certain jahhad terrorist, and speaking this "death to America" crap. It would have just been a matter of time. But, hey at least this gave the newspapers and CNN something to report....

I guess my point is that I served two times in Iraq. You people put way too much stock into what the Liberal press reports. It is not near as bad as the press would have you belive.

Think about it, A bomb goes off and 10 people and 1 marine are killed. The next thing you know it is all over the news and Max is starting a blog and everyone is chiming in about how our military is a failure and Bush should be impeached. The press won't tell you about the raids were U.S. forces killed 100 terrorist trainers, or the numerous arrests made, or Iraq now has running water, electricity, sewage systems, paved roads, even cell phone towers...real progress. You folks only focus on the negative. I guess that is what sells newspapers/magazines and adds to run on CNN.

I can tell you I had 3 very close friends killed in Iraq when the war started. I was also there, in country, the day Saddam was captured. Pulling out now is the biggest mistake we can make and would be a huge disservice to those that made the sacrifies or died to give you the right to criticism them. Although there are pockets of thugs that blow themselves up from time to time, we pretty much have control of the majority of the country.

My time in the military taught me discipline, respect for others, respect for authority, and love of my country. Some folks on these blogs claim they are exercising these values, all while trashing my fellow servicemen and women.. and the Government that provides you with a blanket of security.
Rather than declaring the soliders, marines, wingnuts, and squids a bunch of loosers, to further your political agenda, maybe you could write a letter to one of the men/women deployed and thank them for their service. Send them a care package, magazines, newspapers, candy...anything to show your support.

I guess some of you can't do that because that would interfer with your Ciao Bacci lunches, Therapy Sessions, and blogging against our president.

Oh and Death by Inches - I have only been on this blog for about a month and only recently started wrting on this.

I am not a Republican, just tired of you Liberals giving the Democrat party a bad name with your wild ideation of this criminal tendencies of our Countries Leaders...

And lastly, oh Death by Inches...F$%K YOU!

ARK. BLOG: When somebody says, "I am not a Republican, but ..." you can just about take it to the bank he/she is a Republican. I'd be embarrassed to admit it, too.

CatFish, boy I do think you been fried in bad grease.

>>but you folks seem to forget the terms of surrender from the 1st Gulf War. Didn't Saddam Hussein surrender and agree with let the weapons inspectors come in, stop his contact with the terrorist groups, and stop the other human things that he was doing to his own people.<<

No Saddam did not 'surrender'. He ordered his troops to pull out of Kuwait and withdrew into Iraq. There was never any agreement of any kind.

Are you rewriting history or just trying out a new bong? Is yours that stuff that makes tomorrow melt into yesterday and yesterday become years ago?
So far, scale of 0-9, your trolling score is 3.
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"Had Saddam allowed the UN Weapons inspectors actually go in and inspect rather than REPEATEDLY"

Catfish, in the spirit of discussion, you need to review a little about the facts on this inspection myth. And Saddam did support suicide terrorist bombers but not those against Americans. He gave $25,000 to the families of suicide bombers against ISRAEL, the bitter enemy of the Arabs. Keep in mind Saddam was our buddy, our ally, our chum, and the Reagan and Bush administration armed him to the teeth with conventional and chemical weapons, and provided him with satellite intelligance information.

I have not served in the Middle East. My son did one tour. His assessments of that fiasco is entirely different from yours so he won't fit into your generalizations about our troop's sentiments. Nor will my nephew who lost part of his brain in an explosion on a street in Baghdad.

I'm ready for our fake cowboy to hang up another sign that reads "Mission Accomplished -Really" and pull out.

Catfish,

"War therefore is an act of violence intended to compel our opponent to fulfill our will."
Karl Von Clausewitz

"The West in general and America, head of the infidels in particular, bear hate and grudge against Islam and Muslims that cannot be described. "
Osama bin Laden

The day Bush invaded Iraq he fulfilled Osama bin Laden's will and lost the war. Even before he strutted up in his flight suit before standing in front of his self-congratulatory banner 1454 days ago, he lost the won. It's surprising that it took Reid so long to recognize it.

"ARK. BLOG: When somebody says, "I am not a Republican, but ..." you can just about take it to the bank he/she is a Republican. I'd be embarrassed to admit it, too."

Amen.

And comparing President shit for brains' based-on-lies immoral war to Washington/Valley Forge is LOL funny. Besides Senator Reid was elected to do more than acquiesce to whatever the White House says is good for the country...good for the troops. This patriotic subservience that the Republicans have successfully shoved down the country's throats is as un-American as it gets...and it really pisses me off.

Catfish for brains, you are an idiot. STFU. Get lost. Or, better yet, tell us about your glorious service in uniform.

Mr. Catfish, not one of us hated Liberals have ever said a bad thing about our troops. Can't say I'm real happy with the few who have gone nuts and killed everyone in sight. But that happens in every war and is another good reason to use war as a last resort. If war won't make you crazy, nothing will.

In the House debate last night some wingnut repeated the old line that when he came back from Vietnam, he was spit on. That is total BS. No one ever spit on a returning veteran. But boy, telling that tale works like a charm...few things will make people madder, quicker.

And you do rewrite history. Go back and look at the newspapers of the time and you'll see that before Bush could start blowing the hell out of Iraq, he had to wait until all the inspectors were pulled out. The danger to Bush is that the inspectors had just about finished their job and were going to report that there was NO WMD...NONE.

The Decider couldn't have any of that kind of talk, now could he? America needs to get out of the war business. We're no good at it. Outside of Grenada, we haven't won a war since August 15th, 1945. It's not the troop's fault, there are NONE better in the world. It's the fault of the old white men safe back here at home who are too dumb to direct the troops.

Supporting our troops is to BRING THEM HOME from a war that can't be won. Supporting our troops is picking the right war for them to fight in to begin with. A just war, if there is such a thing.

Supporting our troops IS NOT wearing them out with tour after tour of torturous duty in a War for Oil. Supporting our troops is not extending their tours to 15 months. Cutting their time home between tours. Sending them to war in unarmored HumVees. Letting Walter Reed fall down.

How you get disrespecting the troops our of anything us Liberals say.....is beyond me. I have interviewed exactly 50 WWII veterans since February, 2006. Though it's not a question I ask them, at least 45 of these men who saw action in the granddaddy of all wars are against this one.

People who really saw combat don't want to see it again for themselves or any one else....if it's at all possible to avoid. And when you go to war, if the President you have is not the President you want.....and that dumbass President can't find his own ass with both hands....get rid of that President!

This brilliant new idea of adding more troops to be sitting ducks in the civil war in Iraq isn't working (look at the death rate of our Surging troops) and will never work. It will just get us more graves opened in Arlington and across the US. Add more troops is not a new idea, every losing side in history has tried it before they fell.

Please turn off Fox News!