Huckabee on fashion -- UPDATE
Marie Claire (gals will know this magazine; I don't subscribe) has an interview this month with Mike Huckabee. Fashion comes up.
Q: I read that you're against miniskirts.
A: If a person dresses provocatively, they're calling attention -- maybe not the most desirable kind -- to private parts of their body.
Q: What about a burka?
A: No, that hides everything. I think a person's hair, arms, shoulders, legs are an appropriate display of who they are. I want people to be attracted to me because they find me interesting, not because I'm wearing something ... well, I doubt I own anything provocative.
Q: How about a minskirt?
A: A thong.
UPDATE: On a more substantive note, here's a good editorial in the Leader on Huckabee's bad week.







Comments
"...If a person dresses provocatively, they're calling attention -- maybe not the most desirable kind -- to private parts of their body...."
So...and maybe women are dressing for themselves and not really giving a damn about what some dick-driven guy thinks about their clothing or body. Dressing according to what others might think would be depressing and a waste of time. Wear what you want (as long as it's legal); and let the Huckabee's of the world stew in their own twisted views. The human body is a beautiful thing.
Posted by: zelda
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June 11, 2007 12:55 PM
Question to Huckabuck,
Who determines where a miniskirt becomes too short to be a regular skirt any longer?
Is it the distance below the "privates" or the distance above the knee caps?
Suppose two girls both weigh 120 pounds, one girl is six foot and the other is five foot two.
A skirt that is modest on the 5-2 might be immodest on the 6 footer.
At what point is a hooded moomoo more of a burka?
Girls now wear clothes to a Baptist church that would have gotten a Catholic girl sent home from school by nuns back in the 50's/60's.
What people wear is very personal and when ever someone tries to set a standard, chaos ensues.
What Huck is banking on is the idea that he makes statements that can be extremely vague yet the prudes believe that his definition of inapropriate is the same as theirs.
Then he gets their support without having to do anything. The voters for personal freedoms don't worry with it because it is so trivial.
That is brilliant, make a statement that gets rightwingnut votes yet costs no center or left votes.
Posted by: Citizen home
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June 11, 2007 01:08 PM
"well, I doubt I own anything provocative." MH
Well great. Nothing as provocative as a middle-aged, wrinkled face, stretch-marked Baptist preacher.
Posted by: Knoc Knock
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June 11, 2007 01:15 PM
One shouldn't try to picture the Huckabees in provocative evening garb. If could cause brain damage.
Posted by: Jake da Snake
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June 11, 2007 01:21 PM
Even though I would not solicit fashion advice from Mr. Mike, they manner in which we choose to dress does speak to our personality, consciously or subconsciously. However, I don't think a person should be attacked or harassed for his/her sense of style; it's a personal decision. Self-standards should be an integral ingredient in all our choices; personal censorship should play its part in our life, too.
Posted by: honestone
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June 11, 2007 01:37 PM
Has Janet, or any of the Huckabee children, accompanied him on his campaign appearances?
Posted by: LAJ-Hillcrest
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June 11, 2007 02:02 PM
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Speaking of styles and dress there is a very profound blog over at Street Jazz on a matter of personal appearance.
See the blue name for link
.....
Posted by: Knoc Knock
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June 11, 2007 02:28 PM
Oh the trouble one gets into trying to get DISH HD on one's house. I'm plumb worn out, but I can see the hair follicles on Helen Mirren's cheek...not altogether a bad thing. But God...what will Joan Rivers look like in HD?
I don't know when the population of the earth received the message that the world was built for each of us? We all have opinions, but for the most part the importance of my opinion ends at my property line.
How my daughter dresses IS my business. How your daughter dresses ISN'T. Why is that such a hard lesson to learn for some people? No one is interested in my or your opinion of their dress and opening our mouth is a good way to get punched.
I don't give a shit what Huckabee's standards are, let him live by them, let him declare that any woman on his property in a mini-skirt will be shot. That's between him and the cops....none of my business.
One of the reasons we're miserable and at each other's throats at all time is the idea that each of us gets to run the world as we see fit. Let John Ashcroft and Huckabee cover all the boobs they want....I choose to look and look and look and smile. Show'em if you got'um girls! Huck ain't the boss and may he be damned!
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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June 11, 2007 02:38 PM
Max, That is not the real interview with Mary Claire. The Huckabee campaign is going to release the interview transcript.
ARK. BLOG: Great. I copied what I wrote there straight from the magazine. There were other questions, but I just picked up the funny part.
PS -- I've e-mailed and called the campaign for the transcript. No response so far.
Posted by: wideopen
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June 11, 2007 02:43 PM
Here are the Republicans:
1. Ronald Reagan's Ghost
2. Mitt Romney
3. Fred Thomspson
4. Rudy Giuliani
5. John McCain
6. Ron Paul
7. George W Bush's Ass
I think the most controversial in terms of how the mainstream media posits these things is the placement of Ron Paul ahead of the Mike Huckabee - Sam Brownback embargalo and the Jim Gilmores of the race. It is easily defendable because while I can posit a scenario where Huckabee or Brownback might rise in the polls and threaten to get the nomination, it does not seem to be happening.
Skull and Bones
Posted by: Knoc Knock
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June 11, 2007 03:11 PM
Q: How about a minskirt?
A: A thong.
I got a little throw-up in my mouth.
Posted by: lroutdoor
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June 11, 2007 03:20 PM
Well that's the thing, DBI. Conservatives are not content to simply live according to their own standards. They want their standards to be law so that everyone has to live according to the conservatives' narrowmindedness. That's the bottom (no pun intended) line, everything else is just icing on the political cake.
Live Free or Die as the New Hampshire folks say.
Posted by: Rackensacker
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June 11, 2007 03:37 PM
zelda:"So...and maybe women are dressing for themselves and not really giving a damn about what some dick-driven guy thinks about their clothing or body."
Ok, z, I guess I'm going to get on the bad side of you, once again, by saying today's fashions (as inspired by Britney Spears, et al) is all about seduction. If you don't believe that, go visit a high school campus and take a gander. After that observation, then if you don't agree, make an appointment with your favorite optometrist......or stay out from behind the steering wheel.
Posted by: Cato
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June 11, 2007 04:03 PM
Good point, Rackensacker...
In a similar vein, the pro-life movement (or 'anti-choice' as I call it) really isn't about life, it's about social control.
Posted by: DrRingDing
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June 11, 2007 04:31 PM
OK, a GOOD friend of my wife's gave me the be-all, end-all "Fashion" button, and it certainly works here (for Huck):
Is my dick too long for this skirt?
BRILLIANT!!
Posted by: Larry
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June 11, 2007 05:00 PM
I don't disagree, Cato...much of our clothing is all about seduction. I'm just arguing that women should choose their clothes according to their preferences (and seduction might be one); they shouldn't choose their clothing because someone else, like Huck, thinks a certain skirt length, or a certain fit of blouse is breaking some kind of arbitrary moral standard. Pick a skirt 'cause it feels good, fits good and is workable...not because of what others think.
We've come a long way...but catching the eye of young men is still of paramount importance to most high school girls..so onward with plastic surgery/Brittany clothes. Sad.
Posted by: zelda
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June 11, 2007 05:03 PM
Hey Cato and zelda....I super well remember that the female clothing..hell the male's clothing too, at Northside High in 1971-73 was all about seduction too.
It was the original mini-skirt days and as they're pulling away the vent from my withered old throat I'll be thinking of 2 dozen images of long gorgeous female legs striding across the Northside campus so many years ago. Thanks NHS girls for the gift that keeps on giving!
At the same time boys were busy finding just the right jeans that showcased their "package". Good thing I wasn't gay because it was Penis City every day. So let's not be guilty of forgetting when young, we slutted it up pretty good. But still the same, Mike Huckabee can bare naked BUTT out!
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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June 11, 2007 05:45 PM
DBI...I'm sorry but using the words Mike Huckabee and bare naked butt in the same sentence realllly makes me shudder.........EWWWWWW!!!
I may not sleep for a week from the fear of having a dream MH's bare butt!
Posted by: Charles Eddie Smith
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June 11, 2007 06:01 PM
Lot of truth to that Zelda. A female high school teacher told me that it's common practice for coeds to come to school dressed as their parents thought proper, then they head to the lavatories immediately to change into clothes that match their fellow coeds. Peer pressure if powerful, is it not?
And DBI can still have his nightflashes of wasted youth gone forever.
Posted by: Cato
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June 11, 2007 06:15 PM
I wonder what it means to be "against" a fashion?
"Against" like I'm "against" neckties that are super skinny like JFK wore, or those that are sailcloth broad like I wore in the 70s?
Or "against" like, "If you wear this it shows the depth of your moral decay and legitimizes whatever someone may choose to say or do to you?"
Posted by: TAP
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June 11, 2007 06:27 PM
"Pick a skirt 'cause it feels good, fits good and is workable . . ."
No such animal, Zelda. Believe me -- I strutted my stuff during the first miniskirt era. And we wore underwear then. Sitting here at my desk and trying to sit "ladylike" as required for a miniskirt and I wonder how I ever managed. You walked stick straight, always, with short, almost mincing steps. I can remember considering how best to sit down to show only what I wanted to show -- a good, even grasp on both sides of your skirt, knees tightly together (and they had to stay that way) and gently lower yourself into a chair and cross your ankles -- KEEP THOSE KNEES LOCKED, GIRL! Getting up presented more problems.
And dropping something? I think that's when the chivalric custom of a gentleman picking up something a lady dropped died. Knees together, hold the side of the skirt opposite the object to be picked up and lower yourself -- back straight, but leaning to the side, and knees tightly together always -- beside the dropped object, retrieve it, then reverse the procedure -- and give your skirt a tug for good measure.
I can't believe I ever did that.
But I also can't believe I ever wore, and ran in, three inch heels.
Damn. It seems I got old somewhere along the line.
Posted by: Doigotta
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June 11, 2007 08:28 PM
Bless you, Doigotta! Some lumpy old male classmate might have leaned back in his chair this afternoon and thought of you fondly....how's that for a polite word.
I knew Asa Hutchinson's daughter back in the 90s. Cute girl, smart girl. She kept her party clothes in the trunk of her car. She'd come by a friend's restaurant about 10 pm to meet her best friend who was a waitress there.
She'd come in dressed like a good girl and come out of the bathroom looking like a.....uh.....looking real real real GOOD. She'd sit around with us old guys until Mimi got off of work. It was great for our egos, but nothing else.
So if Saint Asa's daughter was doing that in the 90s, it'll work out for today's little chicks.
Boo hiss on Huckabee!
Posted by: Deathbyinches
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June 11, 2007 08:39 PM
Wow, DBI's school must have been way ahead of mine when it came to dress code.
My high school in NC did not permit pants for girls, only dresses or skirts, and 2 inches above the knees.
No blue jeans for either sex.
So of course after school we wore mini-skirts, blue jeans, and hot pants, and lots of slutty make-up. Nothing bad happened to me.
But, I was a 20 yearold virgin and I was leaving my job one night when I got grabbed and raped by a stranger. I was in uniform, a college student trying to make a living, and I sure as hell wasn't wearing anything provocative.
So, here's the point: Huckabee, as usual, does not have a clue about real life.
What an idiot.
Posted by: BlueRidge
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June 11, 2007 08:45 PM
I would like to strangle that son of a bitch with my bare hands, BlueRidge, and all the others like him.
Posted by: durangokid
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June 11, 2007 09:04 PM
I'm with durangokid on this one. I wish that could be undone, BlueRidge, but since it can't, thank you for making a very good point. So sorry.
Posted by: hugh mann
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June 11, 2007 09:23 PM
DBI...Zelda...Crock knock and all the others that posted on this thread...most despicable scumbags that Brantley could find to make up his troops...don't you socialists ever get tired of agreeing and kissing each other's ugly rear ends?. Crock knock..people that know you says you are just as ugly on the outside as you are on the inside...and Ugly Zelda? what is there to say about a bitter ugly old woman eaten up with class envy.
Posted by: Barrett Jackson
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June 11, 2007 09:58 PM
Barrett Jackson...
Wow...I feel sorry for you, pal...wise one you (give Hope a chance) are...
Nah...not really sorry as much as curious.
Not so curious as a (non) person like you would be about who the Mayor of Clown Town will be...
Such an important race in your slot...
Check your head...
And as much ASA! I know it is for you to be nice...dig deep...and tread lightly...
Posted by: rosso
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June 11, 2007 10:29 PM
Hello Barrett Jackson.
Your intials are revealing....
Posted by: Cato
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June 11, 2007 11:07 PM
My my, but the Parrot sure has on some provocative airs tonight. Maybe she's wearing her thong of righteousness straight our of Freddies of Dollywood. And from the latest tones of her comments, it sounds like she had a botched tongue-piercing that may have gotten a bit gangrenous.
"Autrement quelque maladie vénérienne a obtenu finalement ŕ son cerveau. " - Monsieur Jacques
Alas, the madness has reached the final stages in her case. She suffers such outrageous delusions. Her head seems to be spinning around and ugly green glop spews from her mouth. It's time for the:
Blogorcist!!
Can this evil be stopped? Can the demons be released from this poor, possessed soul? Does the name chitlins sound funny to you?
In the name of the farther sun and the holy smoke, get this devil a blue dress on and take her down to the C.F. Eyecare Center for some of their eye-opening specials.
"Yo Barrett.....Sie können meinen großen wurst zu jeder Zeit, Schatz essen. "
Respectfully yours,
Jacob the Serpentine One
Posted by: Jake da Snake
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June 11, 2007 11:57 PM
It seems to me that guys can turn ANYTHING a female wears into something provocative. Look at fantasies about NUNS or other outfits that cover a lot, for cripes sake. It's NOT what a girl or woman wears, it what's UNDER it that gets guys going, including pheromones.
If it was what was worn, then there would never be any rapes or molestations done to those that wore "decent" clothing. We all know that is not the case.
Those that can't handle seeing a bit of flesh REALLY need to get some help in dealing with their problem.
Besides, what about bathing suits? Those reveal much more than miniskirts do.
So, we are back to controlling women in what they do, so they can be blamed if they are abused. No way the guys can be blamed, can they Huck.
Oh, and how come he doesn't mention the guys and how THEY dress? Could it be because they don't turn him on, so he doesn't notice, showing what HE is thinking?
Posted by: rablib
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June 12, 2007 02:34 AM
Ah yes, doigotta, I remember those miniskirts...don't know how we walked, much less sat...and then there was the hot pants. And there was always one who managed to get her skirt shorter than the rest of us...not an easy task.
Oh ouch...BJ's calling me names...oh it hurts sooo much.
"...So, we are back to controlling women in what they do, so they can be blamed if they are abused. No way the guys can be blamed, can they Huck..."
My sentiments exactly rablib...just more of blaming women for what men think/do.
Posted by: zelda
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June 12, 2007 04:27 AM
"It seems to me that guys can turn ANYTHING a female wears into something provocative."
I dunno, rablib. Have you looked at a burka?
Posted by: Cato
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June 12, 2007 08:45 AM
Huckabee: "well, I doubt I own anything provocative."
wing tips get me hot
Posted by: happy_bunny
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June 12, 2007 02:44 PM
Hey, Max. You got linked by Wonkette on this story. You've made the big time in the blogosphere--congrats!
http://wonkette.com/politics/clawing-out-one.s-own-eyes-dept%27/huckabee-guilty-of-sartorial-war-crimes-268246.php
Posted by: Reginald P. Pants, Esq.
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June 12, 2007 04:37 PM
Why even put this in a blog? We all know this "arkansas times" is an anti-huckabee, liberal-agenda newspaper/blog, but c'mon. Find something else to report on.
Posted by: Draht
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June 12, 2007 09:00 PM
Draht is right. Do we really want to hear more about this loser Huckabee? Please spare us and report about candidates who have something of substance that will benefit the body politic and not the political bodies lining up for a chance at the government trough.
In other words don't nitpick the nitwit. All that happens is that we give poor Huckster a public blogging every time you do.
Posted by: Jake da Snake
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June 12, 2007 09:23 PM
Amen to Draht and Jake. I suggested the same thing weeks ago.
Posted by: durangokid
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June 12, 2007 10:35 PM
Thanks for the good thoughts, durango, and hugh. You are good, caring people.
Posted by: BlueRidge
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June 12, 2007 10:39 PM