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I heard an NPR interviewee in Iowa say the other day, responding to a question about Romney's candidacy, that she didn't think a Mormon *or* a Catholic should be president of this country. She just threw in the Catholic bit gratis. I'm not a fan of either Romney or Brownback, but it has nothing to do with their respective religions.

Personally, I'd never vote for a Baptist--especially a Baptist preacher--for anything above dog-catcher, and even then I think I'd prefer a Buddhist. In fact, I know I would.

Huckabee claims "several key members of my staff are Roman Catholic", but I am wondering if any of those guys are in the field or if they just stuck them in the back room with the other Token people they have so they can say they reprsent everyone.

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Newsroom.PressRelease&ID=183

She must be too young to remember JFK....HE was Catholic and Jimmy Carter was/is a
southern Baptist, I would cast my vote for JFK today altho Carter has been a great
post-prez.

Let's don't forget that Bill Clinton is a southern Baptist. Did you vote for him, widj?

Not to worry. With a Mormon in the race all the Protestants and Catholics will forget their differences to zero on the true satanic object in the race.

Years ago Frank White made reference to the three major religions as "Christians, Catholics, and Jews."

This folks, is the mindset.

This is on par with one wino calling the other wino's mother a whore. Do we care? Does it matter? 2 losers having a little spat caused by a preacher named Rude? Who could make this shit up? I have to admit I am a little prejudiced towards Mormons. I'm sorry.....polygamy, Parley P. Pratt being shot and stabbed to death in VB 150 years ago for stealing a man's woman to make her his 12th wife. It is speculated that Mr. Pratt, with children from 12 wives has the most direct descendants alive in the US today.....not important....but pretty interesting.

Anyway...Mormons....too weird. Lost gold tablets in the Western desert...Donnie & Marie...it's as bizarre as Scientology. Of course what must have been thought about the first Jewish guy who decided God told him to cut the end off his baby's penis? Nutty nutty people!

I know everyone running for anything in America has to claim to walk and talk with some kind of supreme being. This concept mixes people up. Just look at Hillary, last month she was talkin about her friend the Lard. Last week she's showing her boobs. She never did that until she started talking about Jesus in her life. Are we real sure where sin comes from? Do you ever think maybe preaching begets sin? Eggs it on...make people put down their Bibles and drop their drawers...suddenly pointing Mr. Pudgy at folks he's not supposed to? Someone check into that...will ya?

Let's review. Brownback would physically push aborted fetuses back up where they came from if he got the chance. Huckabee stages Moonie type mass weddings. Brownshirt communicated with Terri Schivo though her brain was goop. Huckabee has seen Janet naked. Ack! Enough! Mormon Mitt is looking more normal to me every minute. As Alice Roosevelt Longworth once said of Tom Dewey, he looks like the little man on top the wedding cake.....if you squint, so does Mormon Mitt...he's the Tom Dewey of 2007. And the more I think about it, he's the perfect candidate to run against Hillary next year. Huckabuck and Brownshirt just wish they were Mormon Mitt.....life is beginning to be fun again! Run Mitt Run!

I have been particularly harsh on one Republican candidate come to think of it because of his supporters, but mainly because it seems that all of his supporters are 9/11 conspiracy kooks.

I think it's a bit harsh to attack the guy because of one comment, even though I happen to not like Huck a whole lot.

I did get a great laugh out of the comment above about "Carter being a great post prez." What a joke.

All Brownback does is whine and attack everyone ahead of him in the polls. Quite sad, really.

Citizen Jour,
Since you may have the only direct link to the Lard on here how's Raygun's post presidency doing?
Nixon's?

G.H.W.Bush been crying and wailing enough for you?

Unfortunately, this is the typical tyrannical type mind-set and attitude among Baptist puritans and as a recovering "my-way-or-no-way Free-Will-Baptist I know it's part of their (in-bred )psychic and you either accept and go along with it or leave and vote against it -- thank God most take the latter.

There have been great exceptions who are/were able to separate fact from fantasy -- President Clinton for instance who history will record as the greatest president since JFK and FDR.

widj,
The comment also added that Catholics and Mormons weren't Christians. ARGH.

Gurdon, yes I did vote for Bill, because I'd known him for years (since high school) and knew his perspective on his religion.

ARTiger, she did, indeed make that assertion, but was only half right. Catholics are most certainly Christians, but Mormons are theologically quite distinct from "mainstream" Christianity, lacking an orthodox view of the divinity of Christ, the Holy Trinity, baptism, Holy Eucharist, etc, etc.

I once witnessed a confrontation between my high school history teacher (a Mormon) and a classmate (also a Mormon). The teacher had just asserted that Mormons were *not* Christians, which set off the student, who thought they were. The teacher "won" that argument, in my view.

However, it is stupid to assert that *only* a Christian, by whatever definition, can be President. I don't believe the Constitution even addresses the question.

prouster i am sorry but that comment is bigoted. if there is a whisper campaign that calls a person of a different religion not one of "us" that is no different than calling someone of a different race not one of "us". is that the type of person huck huck wants to be associated with? do you really not see the difference"

Gee, and just about the time we mackerel-snappers are no longer bingo criminals in Arky-Dark. We drink, we dance, we gamble. When the Xtian fundamentalists complete their power grab, we'll be back to the days of Tony Alamo sending his zombies upstate to vandalize Saint Elizabeth's lovely chapel and litter Eureka with hate tracts. Alito, Scalia and Roberts will protect their right to do it.

"However, it is stupid to assert that *only* a Christian, by whatever definition, can be President. I don't believe the Constitution even addresses the question."

"...no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

Article VI, paragraph III
United States Constitution

Thank you, Cato. The Constitution does address the question, saying, as I intended to mean, that there can be no such qualification. I doubt it will stop countless voters from casting their ballots based exactly on their own personal religious test.

"...no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
by Cato

Looks good on paper.
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I don't care what the religious persuasion of any president is as long as they believe in separation of state and church. That's the only criteria for me.

Actually the words "seperation of church and state" never appear in the constitution. What it says is, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Seperation of church and state is a doctrine.

I go to church to vote for a new pastor, I go to the polls to vote for a new prez....
One has nothing to do with the other, far as I'm concerned, nor should it.

"...no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

That is clearly "separation of church and state", CJ, even without the exact words.

"Actually the words "seperation [sic] of church and state" never appear in the constitution. "

Yep. The exact words "separation of church and state" do not appear in the Constitution; neither do "separation of powers," "interstate commerce," "right to privacy," "judicial review,"and other phrases describing well-established constitutional principles.

When I listened to the debate in Dec. 2000 and Dubya said Jesus was his favorite
philosopher I knew for sure we were in trouble. A "christian" who does not know that a
philosopher is a seeker after the truth and that Jesus is the truth, is a christian in
wolf's clothing.
BTW.....our forefathers came to these shores to escape the church of England.

"...no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

And at the time that was adopted one had to be Anglican to hold office in Virginia. As late as the adoption of the southern constitutions after reconstruction (ours in 1874, I believe) they routinely said no atheist could hold office (as did ours). The statement was to prevent any of the dominant colony religions from becoming a federal/national religion.

BTW, has Brownback disavowed the Pope's statements that Eastern Orthodox churches are defective and Protestant churches aren't really part of the Church at all because they lack the Pope?

"BTW.....our forefathers came to these shores to escape the church of England."

True about some. Some came to get away from the Lord Protector (Oliver Cromwell). Some came to escape Catholic tyranny (Hugenots, etc), and so forth. But economics the primary pusher to America, such as lots of land for nuttin'.

BTW.....our forefathers came to these shores to escape the church of England.

Yappy, ever hear of Virginia? It was arguably the most powerful of the colonies. Certainly the race was among Mass. (really Boston), New York, and Virginia. Good ole VA was completely Anglican (Church of England). You even had to be a member (by law) to hold office there, which continued past the adoption of the Bill of Rights. You're painting with an over-broad brush.

Hey cato there is a test. The people will vote on who will be leader but be sure they will not vote for a heathen or an unbeliever.

Zazzy there are a lot of churches but there is only one church that Jesus started. Not saying that there aren't people in every church that are born again christians. There are christians that don't go to church anywhere.. but there are more unblievers than believers.
Like cato said and they came here for the biggest prize of all, FREEDOM.
Every tax that is passed on us takes away the freedoms we have!

dbi you can think of the craziest things to say that may be the worst thing you ever do. You are tempting God to get a hold of you. I must tell you all that God wrath is kindled against people who don't believe.
That cutting off the skin is/was an act of Abraham in faith. Something you lack, faith. I would be afraid if I rant and raved as you do against Christ and Christian.

Would you sacrifice your children, Chasv, if God asked you in order to test your faith?

It's interesting how human sacrifice shows up in all early religions. I'm reading a book right now that postulates that our attraction to war -- not barroom macho-ism but entire nations organizing themselves into hating killing machines -- comes from the fact that for most of the millions of years of our evolution we weren't predators. We were prey.

Toss the tiger an unlucky soul and hope the rest of the tribe can get away.

I think what may conme as a surprise to you chasv is that dbi, myself, and others have just as much faith in our personal philosophies of life as you have in your chosen way of worship. You want to bow down and submit your neck to a higher power you call God while we hate to submit to any form of slavery, physical, emotional or spiritual.
One of the key traits from the beginning of religion has been the power of the shaman/medicine man/priest/inquisitor/evangelista to threaten the unbelievers and doubters with some bad juju, evil spirits, troubled ghosts, concentration camps, or burning at the stake or a fiery torment after death. It's commonly called intimidation or extortion or torture. Since the human vessel is rather frail, such methods have a high degree of success.
Most of your writings to us is to describe the potent wrath of your god rather than a saner, more merciful deity. You often present your god in a manner more appropriate for those who believe in voodoo than for a rational and civilized man in this modern world. Sadly, you come across as some cult zombie worshipping a metaphysical S&M bondage freak. Very bad juju, Sahib.
You say, "I would be afraid if I rant and raved as you do against Christ and Christianity." We seem to have a dichotomy here because some of us are not afraid when you rant and rave about Christ & Christianity. There is a beautiful side to the teachings of Jesus when he talks about how we should treat others and tend to those who suffer. Unfortunately, it is merely a velvet glove which hides the ugly iron fist of prejudice and hatred that lurks underneath.
Sic semper tyrannis!

Or, roughly translated from the Latin: God is a distempered Tyrannosaurus.

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