Arkansas Blog

A Clinton-Obama Democratic ticket worries me. Now I generally run screaming from politics, so I have to take that into consideration when I stick my toe into the political opinion water. But I wonder if the dems wouldn't be taking a chance of throwing away the election by uniting two aginner factions -- the anti-uppity woman faction and the no black, no time, no how faction. These factions seemed to be well represented around here and there is certainly overlap. Nationwide I wonder how much of an aginner vote can be mustered.
On the other hand, Hillary Clinton choosing someone else if the current trend continues would alienate black voters big time.
Looks to me like a tough choice, not one I'd want to have to make.
But the next president -- assuming our Constitution doesn't go up in flames before then -- is going to have some really tough choices to make in the Middle East, so we shall see what we shall see. Early days.

I can see Obama saying yes to Hillary's invitation on a ticket, but would she say yes to him if he were to get the nod?

For the record, I like both of them, especially together.

As smart as Hillary is she has been the equivalent of an empty suit or worse in her time in the Senate... Her campaign dodges the troubles of our times in the details of what we the people really want and need to discuss to solve some of these issues.

Both of these folks are DLC compromisers which means HC is voting farther right than her first favorite politician Barry Goldwater would.

Talking around the issues should not be acceptable.

We have been lied to and coddled far to long.. If a candidate can't or wont discuss the realities our times in full.. Like former DLC candidate and president elect Al Gore has over the last year then we are surely doomed to repeat it. We need the inconvenient truths from our candidates as much we need liberty and justice honored and restored.

If they wont discuss hard facts for any reason political or other, then how can we possibly expect them to do something once elected.

We have our Pryors at home, why dole out blind faith for his favorite candidates in DC?

As a vanity social statement the DLC supported what Dems above all wold like to see, elevation of women and minorities into the highest office.. but that alone is not enough.

Where's the beef?

The following is the first 12 lines from DLC wiki
<<<<<<<<<<
Democratic Leadership Council is a non-profit corporation [1] that argues that the United States Democratic Party should shift away from traditionally populist positions. Moderate and conservative Democratic party leaders founded the DLC in response to the landslide victory of Republican candidate Ronald Reagan over Democratic candidate Walter Mondale during the 1984 Presidential election. The founders believed the United States Democratic Party needed to shift to the right of center to remain viable during the Reagan era. The DLC hails President Clinton as proof of the viability of third way politicians and as a DLC success story. Critics contend that the DLC is effectively a powerful, corporate-financed mouthpiece within the Democratic party that acts to keep Democratic Party candidates and platforms sympathetic to corporate interests and the interests of the wealthy.

The DLC's affiliated think tank is the Progressive Policy Institute. Democrats who adhere to the DLC's philosophy often call themselves New Democrats.

The DLC's current chairman is former Representative Harold Ford, Jr. of Tennessee, and its vice chair is Senator Thomas R. Carper of Delaware. Its CEO is Al From and its president is Bruce Reed.
<<<<<<<<<<

Harold Ford is the current chair? In 2006 the guy ran about as far right as one could possibly imagine... speaks like a republican and LOST his last election and it wasn't because he was short on funds. But the D party treats him like hero and places him in one of the most powerful party leadership positions?

The DLC and its candidates sum up in one small place why well funded Democrats have no spine and the source of where we the people of the party are bought and sold right out of the process, imo.

Any Democratic organization that has embraced with dismal results the push of our party to the right for decades.. should be called out and ignored and so should its candidates.

I am still hoping that Bill Richardson makes up some ground...

He's long on experience but he just isn't very good on the stump...

I worry about Hillary further polarizing an already polarized country...

My red friends (yes, I have some) are scared to death of her...but they can't really explain why...weird, huh?

Anyway, Obama is super cool and will probably get a ton of the younger bloc...

I feel good about the Dems chances...as long as it isn't Biden...

Despite my moniker, I'm an Obama fan. I just love how Hillary freaks the conservatives out for no reason.

"Mike Huckabee - You get the sense people are starting to take him a little more seriously."

No, really, I get the sense that people don't know who he is and don't give a flip. Remember, he has not trotted out his Munster-ish family yet. No one is going to trust the antique White House to that bunch. Fini

We've had 231 years of white guys at the helm. Some have hit, some have missed, some currently in power have made me ashamed to be a white American male.

Neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama are white American males. Yippy! What better time to try something new than after a horrible national disaster? Cheney and Bush have been so horrible, Fidel Castro or Manuel Noriega would be delightful in the White House for the next 4 years.

So President Hillary Clinton and Vice President Barack Obama would be a wonderful thing. My dream team. And looky looky, the most popular American in the world today, Bill Clinton comes along for free!

It's almost as good as sex! In fact if someone would poke my eyes out first, those 3 are my ideal 3-some!

The Republicans are as dead as the Whigs. Any Democrat or Independent can win in 2008. We can keep up our guard AND start the party early.....barring a complete military takeover of our government by Cheney, it's smooth sailing from dogcatcher to President for any Democrat running next year.

Let's have 3 good people in the White House and let's have President Pelosi from now until then. Open season on Republicans starts tomorrow morning!

As nice as this would be, I don't think it will ever happen, for two reasons:
1) While it is an idea that's time has come, it may be overly ambitious to think we can have both a woman and an African American on the same ticket and still get them elected. Again, if we did, I would be nothing less than ecstatic and euphoric for the next 8 years, but that's just my thinking, and

2)Whether it be Hillary at the top and Obama for the number 2 spot (or vice-versa), each person would run the risk of outshining the top of the ticket...something the top of the ticket will most decidedly not tolerate.

My personal dream-ticket would be Hillary/Edwards.

Pelosi '07

Feingold/Clark '08

Two Rhodes Scholars. The Senator and the General.

Bill Clinton Secretary of State.

Let the healing begin.

Attorney General Obama

UN delegate Hillary